[Bozster]

I believe this would be relevant to HDTV direct playback from memory cards or external drives on USB or even Blu-Ray.


I don't think this falls into digital downloads so I'm guessing this is the right place to discuss in hopefully non-aggresive manner. What does this mean? We had Sony Bravia TVs play directly now Samsung etc.


Would this be a hint of DECE group? Getting playback directly into devices?


Containers


* MKV

* WMV

* VOB

* AVI

* TS

* 3GP

* MPG

* ASF



Codecs


* XviD

* DivX 3.11/4.x/5.1/6.0/

* H.264 BP/MP/HP

* MPEG-1

* MPEG-2

* MPEG-4 SP/ASP

* Motion JPEG

* Windows Media Video V9

* VC1


Also:

Quote:
# 2 x USB2.0 Ports. Along with the much improved media capabilites, Some of the TV's features a pair of USB2.0 ports on the side. Now you can have the optional wireless adaptor plugged in one USB slot, while using the other for connecting to storage device drives. Both USB ports are on the side on these models, and the headphone socket been moved round the back.

# [email protected] A feature rich replacement for InfoLive, uses Yahoo Widgets from Samsung's partnership with Yahoo.


I'm definitely intrigued by this, though I don't plan on buying any new TVs since I have 4 HDTVs as is plus projector. But for a new wave it's definitely something interesting.


Your take?


Source:
Gizmo Lovers

 

[Mr. Hanky]

I'm guessing it is still more in the geek-appeal category of features for the time being. Purdy digital video doesn't just chance upon a thumb-drive. It requires the initiative for somebody to have the computer, have the hi-speed broadband connection (where 1.5 Mb/s speed might as well be modern-day equivalent to dial-up), hunt down/torrent/rip the videos which are remotely beyond YouTube quality, strip the drm as needed, and finally possess the interest to drag it onto a thumb drive. I'm not saying people don't exist that would do this, but it isn't exactly "everyman" sort of activities. Perhaps, this is would be a more relevant feature for the handi-cam hobbiest.


A lot of new tv's already come with a direct LAN connection, anyway, so the dual usb isn't really that big of development.


Basically, all this is, is the tv having a built-in media player to plug-in/stream your "videos", if you don't already have a dvd-recorder (with the built-in card reader stuff) or "ps3" to provide this functionality.


Afaik, this is all for drm-free material, as well. If it is encrypted, forgedditboutit (which is fully expected).

 

[amirm]

This is a great development. Brand name companies are realizing they have to ship more than a panel to be competitive in this tough market. We will have to see how good the software stack is in this thing but if it can be an extender without a seperate box, lot of us will be a whole lot happier!

We are taking significant steps toward whole house video distribution using low cost data switch fabric. Bye-bye HDMI! OK, I am getting ahead of myself

. But if this is not the right box, I am sure the generation after will be.


When I met with silicon developers at CES last year, they said every TV guy was going in this direction. Seems like their predictions were true.

 

[MovieSwede]

Amir

isnt it a problem with this approach, that its not as uppgradable as a seperate box.


If this had come 10 years ago we would only have had mpeg2 built in.

 

[amirm]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MovieSwede /forum/post/15482503


Amir

isnt it a problem with this approach, that its not as uppgradable as a seperate box.

Well, the question is, what needs upgrading other than firmware? If the core AV decoders are all built-in, that is all we need for probably a decade. No new codecs are on the horizon for mass standardization and deployment shorter than that time period.


Of course, if no firmware fixes are coming to inevitable bugs, then you are right.

Quote:
If this had come 10 years ago we would only have had mpeg2 built in.

Correct. And it would have served us well during that time since every source during that time more or less, would have been in MPEG-2.

 

[Bozster]

Seems Toshiba is also integrating Media Center capabilities into their A/V devices too including TVs.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...nter-in-new-a/

 

[MovieSwede]

And when I think about it


It cant be no worse then just add a box if that would be needed.



But what about going one step further and make a standard for a switable module. So third party manufacturer give us an array of fun stuff.


In some homes wifi would be excellent, in other built recorder would make sense.

 

[allargon]

No love for Real at all? I remember when they were one of the dominant codecs.


I wonder if Ogg and FLAC will get any love even though the article only lists video codecs.

 

[Bozster]

Vizio joins LG, Samsung, Toshiba and others with embedded playback in TVs and Netflix support.


It think amirm is right. This is great stuff.. Netflix HD and digital content playback directly in the TV. Pretty awesome.

 

[qz3fwd]

Lets just hope they dont cripple the functionality to things like codec X-max 1.5 mbps bitrate due to studio pressure.


It would be cool if they offer BD bitrates, but I doubt they will and instead will hamstring these devices requiring folks to buy the likes of a tvix or popcornhour.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Why doesn't it support .FLV?

 

[Bozster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs /forum/post/15493416


Why doesn't it support .FLV?

I was wondering the same thing. Especially with new HD optimizations Flash has gotten. It would be good if they got it.

 

[DrDon]

Off topic posts removed.

 

[Wendell R. Breland]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bozster /forum/post/15488999


This is great stuff.. Netflix HD and digital content playback directly in the TV. Pretty awesome.

Why would a A/V(HD) enthusiast be excited about:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Deering /forum/post/0



Netflix streaming programs are limited to stereo audio


On top of that, video quality varied dramatically from title to titleeven with a quality rating of four.


My Internet connection showed that the best quality I could get was a two, which resulted in slightly longer buffering times. But the biggest impact was the video quality. It went from OK to horrible. The video was blocky, and artifacts that looked a lot like streaking and combing were evident throughout the entire image. This isn't the kind of video quality I can live with even for casual viewing. Based on this alone, I recommend that you evaluate the quality of your high-speed Internet connection. You need to be sure you have adequate connection speeds to make the most of this service.

And that is for SD video.


The full review of the LG BD300 Network Blu-ray Player can be found here

 

[Mr. Hanky]

I wish we could see more instances where there is a digital download screenshot sample that accompanies the dvd and br screenshot samples in the popular pix comparison topics.

 

[Bozster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland /forum/post/15497243


Why would a A/V(HD) enthusiast be excited about:

And that is for SD video.


The full review of the LG BD300 Network Blu-ray Player can be found here

Because the convenience is great, the quality is not as bad as some portrait it, if you have solid connection and I watch a lot of stuff in HD on it (shows and other older movies).


The point that's exciting is that by next year as their capacity improves we will without a doubt start getting better quality on everything. Most likely higher bitrate, better sound and so on. For now, I use Netflix through my Xbox 360 casually, I use Vudu HDX for rentals of not so hot movies and use Blu-Ray for the ones I'm really sure i'll enjoy.


I'm hoping that the convenience of digital ways will allow me in the next 2-3 years to watch everything in Blu-Ray quality and personally I don't think we are that far away from it when I watch Vudu HDX movies for example.


Having this stuff embedded in TVs only ensures CE companies and studios to supply better quality content in digital form (downloads, memory cards, etc) and having multiple companies pushing different types of devices the variety is much greater then Blu-Ray for example.


That's why I'm excited. For now, I have Blu-Ray to enjoy top quality, but let's keep going and get to the next step. No optical discs, get everything in the cloud and just pick and choose. To me that's awesome.

 

[CRT Dude]

Every codec? It can't even do low quality YouTube videos. It will probably only do FAT32 which will make HD a PITA.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

What does this have to do with BR?

Mem cards and usb's I get, but how would this make one difference for BR's?

 

[JBlacklow]

Exactly. The OP is stretching quite a ways. TVs and their functions are discussed in the TV section. Downloads have their own forum, as do broadcasts and codecs (via HTPC). The 1st post hardly even mentions Blu-ray.

 

[Bozster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by JBlacklow /forum/post/15507741


Exactly. The OP is stretching quite a ways. TVs and their functions are discussed in the TV section. Downloads have their own forum, as do broadcasts and codecs (via HTPC). The 1st post hardly even mentions Blu-ray.

I didn't know that we have to discuss about Blu-Ray only here as if there's nothing else capable of playing HDTV software media.

And I'd really appreciate if people who don't have anything to comment on to try to bypass the thread. If mods have not closed this yet, there's no reason to constantly post disapproval with the thread. It seems, judging by closed threads I've glanced over this is regular practice from Blu-ray die-hards here on AVS.. Discussion starts about something and it gets closed up cause it goes into bickering over Blu-ray.


Thanks.