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Hey guys. So around 5 weeks ago I upgraded my surround system from a Yamaha HTIB (still use the receiver from it) to the Q Acoustics 3000 series. For the first 2 weeks or so everything was fine with them. They sounded amazing.

But for the last few weeks whenever I listen to them, it causes discomfort to my ears. They feel like they become blocked, and even at times makes me a slightly dizzy or tired. It doesn't matter whether I'm watching movies or listening to music, how quiet or loud it is, what source I use whether it be Blu-ray, PS3, Chromecast or music off a phone, whether I run it as 5.1, 5.0, 2.1 or 2.0, it's the same problem no matter what.

I refused to believe my new speakers were causing this ear pain (well I probably knew but was in denial) and convinced myself that it was probably a buildup of wax or something, so I went to my doctor to get my ears checked. He said they were fine. No wax. I then went to an ENT hospital and 2 specialists also checked my ears. No problems with them. No wax or anything, and perfectly healthy ears they said.

So it's gotta be something wrong with my speakers or equipment. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this is happening or how to fix it. It's making it hard to enjoy listening to them now. They still sound great (I think), but my ears still don't like it.

Any ideas on what could possibly be causing this?

Here is the gear I'm using:
AVR: Yamaha HTR-3065
Fronts: Q Acoustics 3050
Center: Q Acoustics 3090C
Rears: Q Acoustics 3010
Sub: Q Acoustics 3070S
Speaker cable: Studio Acoustics 14 gauge

On my AVR I am using a crossover of 80Hz. (with the sub set for the AVR to do the crossover)
 

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crank the treble down and see if ears still hurt
 

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Phone a friend.
Get a few friends over for a listen.
 
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crank the treble down and see if ears still hurt
Okay I'll try that but I haven't changed the treble at all since I got the speakers, so I don't think that will be it. Unless it took 2 weeks or so for it to take effect to my ears?
 

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some speakers have breakin and loosen up...maybe the tweeters got blown or loosened up alot....if its the tweeters maybe still under warranty and can fix. if not the tweeters Im at a loss.
 

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Hey guys. So around 5 weeks ago I upgraded my surround system from a Yamaha HTIB (still use the receiver from it) to the Q Acoustics 3000 series. For the first 2 weeks or so everything was fine with them. They sounded amazing.

But for the last few weeks whenever I listen to them, it causes discomfort to my ears. They feel like they become blocked, and even at times makes me a slightly dizzy or tired. It doesn't matter whether I'm watching movies or listening to music, how quiet or loud it is, what source I use whether it be Blu-ray, PS3, Chromecast or music off a phone, whether I run it as 5.1, 5.0, 2.1 or 2.0, it's the same problem no matter what.

I refused to believe my new speakers were causing this ear pain (well I probably knew but was in denial) and convinced myself that it was probably a buildup of wax or something, so I went to my doctor to get my ears checked. He said they were fine. No wax. I then went to an ENT hospital and 2 specialists also checked my ears. No problems with them. No wax or anything, and perfectly healthy ears they said.

So it's gotta be something wrong with my speakers or equipment. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this is happening or how to fix it. It's making it hard to enjoy listening to them now. They still sound great (I think), but my ears still don't like it.

Any ideas on what could possibly be causing this?

Here is the gear I'm using:
AVR: Yamaha HTR-3065
Fronts: Q Acoustics 3050
Center: Q Acoustics 3090C
Rears: Q Acoustics 3010
Sub: Q Acoustics 3070S
Speaker cable: Studio Acoustics 14 gauge

On my AVR I am using a crossover of 80Hz. (with the sub set for the AVR to do the crossover)
Turn off Audyssey (and any other modes on the receiver) and see if there is a difference.
 

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Excessive high frequency response (too much high end) or high levels of distortion of some kind causes ear fatigue.

Are you sure something is not blown?

Troubleshoot by listening to one speaker at a time. Listen for flat frequency response (balanced blend of low, mid, high) and any distortion.

You need to listen at loud enough level to hear detail.
 

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I don't believe my receiver has Audyssey. By mode do you mean DSP? I just usually use Straight.
Sorry, I didn't notice you had a Yamaha. YPAO is their version of Audyssey. So, be sure YPAO is off.

If you ran it with the prior speakers, then all the settings would be for those speakers and that would really mess with the proper frequency response of these speakers. The solution is to run it again with these speakers (making sure to follow the directions closely)?
 

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Sorry, I didn't notice you had a Yamaha. YPAO is their version of Audyssey. So, be sure YPAO is off.

If you ran it with the prior speakers, then all the settings would be for those speakers and that would really mess with the proper frequency response of these speakers. The solution is to run it again with these speakers (making sure to follow the directions closely)?
Oh yes, when I first got these speakers I undid my previous YPAO settings and just did a rough calibration myself. After a while I then ran YPAO with the new speakers but did not like the results (it wanted to lower the volume of all speakers, rather than keep some at 0 and lower/raise the ones required, which didnt make sense to me), so I undid what I didn't like and made some changes myself. (I measured the exact distances from each speaker to the listening position, lowered/raised the volumes on each to try and get each speaker the same volume etc)
 

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Do you have a dB meter, or some way to set all the speakers to the same level? If not, then YPAO is doing just that, as it should.

How loud are you listening? Have you tried turning down the treble on the receiver yet?
 

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How old are you. When you had your ears checked did they do an audiology test to check the range of your hearing. I am over 50 and cant hear over 14k , i ran a test online of higher frequencies and i couldnt hear them so i cranked it up, damn near had to scrape my kid off the ceiling he was sleeping at the time LOL. Every speaker has a signature and some are definitely brighter than others. I have tinnitus and my speakers actually make my ears ring worse (which they didnt do when i got them)so dont be surprised that yours are bugging you.
 

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doesn't matter whether I'm watching movies or listening to music, how quiet or loud it is, what source I use whether it be Blu-ray, PS3, Chromecast or music off a phone, whether I run it as 5.1, 5.0, 2.1 or 2.0, it's the same problem no matter what.
What that sounds like to me is some kind of high frequency oscillation, like a grounding problem or something. Can you plug in the old speakers somehow to see if you are still bothered?
 

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Do you have a dB meter, or some way to set all the speakers to the same level? If not, then YPAO is doing just that, as it should.

How loud are you listening? Have you tried turning down the treble on the receiver yet?
Nah I don't have a dB meter.

I've tried turning down the "Treble bypass" but couldn't notice a difference. How low should I be putting it? The max was -6dB which I tried and couldn't tell a difference.
 

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How old are you. When you had your ears checked did they do an audiology test to check the range of your hearing. I am over 50 and cant hear over 14k , i ran a test online of higher frequencies and i couldnt hear them so i cranked it up, damn near had to scrape my kid off the ceiling he was sleeping at the time LOL. Every speaker has a signature and some are definitely brighter than others. I have tinnitus and my speakers actually make my ears ring worse (which they didnt do when i got them)so dont be surprised that yours are bugging you.
I am 25. Nope I didn't get an audiology test. Guess it's worth getting one?
 

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What that sounds like to me is some kind of high frequency oscillation, like a grounding problem or something. Can you plug in the old speakers somehow to see if you are still bothered?
Grounding as in electricity? Should I try a different outlet or powerboard? Could that possibly be the cause?

The old speakers are now stored away. It would be a really big hassle to bring them back and set them up because for this new setup the thin speaker wires they use would be too short, and the 14gauge ones for my new speakers have been banana plugged, and my old speakers dont have the binding posts, they have the spring loaded terminals.
 

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Nah I don't have a dB meter.

I've tried turning down the "Treble bypass" but couldn't notice a difference. How low should I be putting it? The max was -6dB which I tried and couldn't tell a difference.
Let YAPO do it’s thing see how you like it. Don’t worry about +/- dbs until you listen to something for a while if it still sounds off make adjustments after, you should probably get an SPL meter from Amazon or Radio Shack to help make sure the volume is balanced at least to 75dbs. If it still bothers you... those probably aren’t the speakers for you.

I listened to a pair of speakers yesterday and had to throttle the volume back because they were so bright sounding to me. They receiver was a Marantz which I own one as well, so I concluded it was the speakers and/or room, but other speakers in that room weren’t so harsh so I’m concluding it was probably the speakers.
 

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I discovered something similar after auditioning a bunch of different speakers here recently- couldn't take advantage of the ones that did sound better, because after listening to those for extended periods especially my ears start getting a tingling feeling, eventually unpleasant ENT head pressure etc. even at low volume.

Found I gravitate toward speakers whose frequency curve tails off at the high end vs. those with a flatter FR, even if it means sacrificing some detail and accuracy.
 

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Hey guys. So around 5 weeks ago I upgraded my surround system from a Yamaha HTIB (still use the receiver from it) to the Q Acoustics 3000 series. For the first 2 weeks or so everything was fine with them. They sounded amazing.

But for the last few weeks whenever I listen to them, it causes discomfort to my ears. They feel like they become blocked, and even at times makes me a slightly dizzy or tired. It doesn't matter whether I'm watching movies or listening to music, how quiet or loud it is, what source I use whether it be Blu-ray, PS3, Chromecast or music off a phone, whether I run it as 5.1, 5.0, 2.1 or 2.0, it's the same problem no matter what.

I refused to believe my new speakers were causing this ear pain (well I probably knew but was in denial) and convinced myself that it was probably a buildup of wax or something, so I went to my doctor to get my ears checked. He said they were fine. No wax. I then went to an ENT hospital and 2 specialists also checked my ears. No problems with them. No wax or anything, and perfectly healthy ears they said.

So it's gotta be something wrong with my speakers or equipment. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this is happening or how to fix it. It's making it hard to enjoy listening to them now. They still sound great (I think), but my ears still don't like it.

Any ideas on what could possibly be causing this?

Here is the gear I'm using:
AVR: Yamaha HTR-3065
Fronts: Q Acoustics 3050
Center: Q Acoustics 3090C
Rears: Q Acoustics 3010
Sub: Q Acoustics 3070S
Speaker cable: Studio Acoustics 14 gauge

On my AVR I am using a crossover of 80Hz. (with the sub set for the AVR to do the crossover)
Try 2.1 with the 3010s as fronts and if still the same try a different amp even if it is just a stereo amp.

If the problem persists then weirdly a tweeter that isn't known for screaming highs in the least simply doesn't agree with you.

I suspect an amp issue but by doing the above you should have a lot more info.

Or, alternately, take the 3010s to a friend's house to see if the problem persists.
 
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