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Oops, just realized what I wrote above! It certainly does 480i over component, but not HDMI.
That's what I found odd.


Lack of 480i on HDMI is par the course. Not a single FLI23xx based player supports it.
 

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More new information ("provisional specs) on the European version player at:
http://www.leconcepts.com/dvd_home.htm

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(Details shown are provisional)

Regions 1-6 Automatic Selection

RCE Automatic Playback

HDMI T-Rex (576x 720p PAL, 480x 720p NTSC, 720x 1280p PAL/NTSC, 1080x 1920i PAL/NTSC

NTSC Progressive(525p); Pal Progressive(625p)

Pal 60 ability

Triple layered aluminium chassis

Acoustic Damper Tray for suppressing transport noise

Accurate Digital Servo with Automatic Jitter Adjustment

DVD/DVD-A/SACD/VCD/CD/CD-R/MP3 Playback

-Twin Wave Laser Pickup

Setup Navigator "walks you through" all the set-up procedures

Advanced GUI (Graphical User Interface) with Non-Stop operation Basic/Expert Mode

Glow Jog /Joystick Remote with TV Control Presets

Time & Frame Search (search by hr:min:sec or frames)

Transfer Bit Rate Indicator; Program Memory (Chapter/Title) (DVD); Resume Play (DVD, Video CD); Condition Memory (DVD); Continue Play Memory (DVD, Video CD)

Program Play (CD Track, Video/Chapter, Title)

Video Specification:

PureCinema Progressive Scan (3:2 Pulldown) on PAL/NTSC

14-bit 216MHz Video Signal DAC for high-quality DVD

New VQE9 High Quality Video Enhancer

True 10-bit Pure Cinema Progressive & Component

HDMI v1.1

Fine Focus Filter with 4:4:4 Video up-sampling

15 Video Parameter Adjustments w/ 3 User Memories

(Progressive Motion, PureCinema (on, off, Auto), YNR,

CNR, Mosquito NR, Block NR, Sharpness High,

Sharpness Mid, Detail, White level, Black Level, IRE,

Hue, Chroma Level, Chroma Delay)

3 Factory Video Settings (CRT / Projector /Professional)

Still Play (Field or Frame with Auto)

Still Step Play Forward and Reverse

Slow Motion Playback

Audio Specification:

192kHz/24 Bit DACs

3 High Quality 2 Channel DACs for DVD-Audio/SACD

Hi-Bit Legato Link Conversion

Symmetrical Audio Circuit Layout Design

Dolby® Digital and dts® Digital Outputs

DVD-A/SACD/CD Direct Mode (defeats video circuitry)

Output Terminals (Gold Plated):

HDMI(T-Rex)

Component Video Output x1 (Progressive/Interlace)

SCART x2(1 xRGB)

Built in Dolby® Digital/dts® Decoder (6 Channels)

i.Link (IEEE1394) x1; Digital Optical Output x1

Digital Coaxial Output x1; Analog Audio Output x2

S Video Output x2; Composite Video Output x2

In the Box:

1x Composite Video Lead; 1x Analogue Pair; 1 i.Link Cable

1x Remote Control; 1x User's Manual

Dimensions: (w xh xd)

420 x109 x279 mm 10kg


Pioneer DV-989AVi Silver £799.99
The price suggests a MSRP of $1500 and a street of a little over $1400.


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The price suggests a MSRP of $1500 and a street of a little over $1400.
But then knowing Pio players over the years, dropping steadily after introduction. ;)
 

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But then knowing Pio players over the years, dropping steadily after introduction. ;)
It will be interesting to see what Pioneer does this year with MSRP v. MAP. In previous years, their MSRP was so ridiculously highthat units were distcounted from day one.


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That's why I asked what the list on the 868 was. At least on paper, I could see Pioneer charging more for the new one than for the 59AVi. After all, one part of me wants this player to easily compete with the Marantz 9600's and Onkyo 1000's of the world, *at least* in real world performance if not price as well.


But here's the thing. I got my 59AVi last fall. I went to a Good Guys, they were sold out. They said they'd be kind enough to special order one for me, for $1300. I eventually got it on ebay for ... $850. The point being, there are people out there that don't know about that difference, and actually would pay a lot closer to list. I actually have come across a few other manufacturers that do this too. I am still deciding if I like it or not. :)
 

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Hehehe...looks like Denon yes....
They're never going to live that one down, are they?
 

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As long as it doesn't have macroblocking... ;)
 

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"PureCinema Progressive Scan (3:2 Pulldown) on PAL/NTSC"


Any reason they haven't provided 3:3 pulldown (72Hz) in this new model? Pio's plasmas have had this (advanced purecinema) since the Fall of 2003. I would have thought HDMI could handle 72 Hz video data without any problems.


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"PureCinema Progressive Scan (3:2 Pulldown) on PAL/NTSC"


Any reason they haven't provided 3:3 pulldown (72Hz) in this new model? Pio's plasmas have had this (advanced purecinema) since the Fall of 2003. I would have thought HDMI could handle 72 Hz video data without any problems.
How many DVD players can you name that can do source-locked frame rate conversion?
 

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Christ! i hated my Denon 3910 just because of the MB issues and my Panasonic plasma, it looked horrible.


I really hope this new Pioneer is something extra, at least it got the looks which was one of the few things i liked about the Denon.
 

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I found this on a french canadian audio/video forum:

http://www.quebecaudio.com/forums/up...1123530621.jpg


-The best feature IMHO is the new "Direct Stream" video. It's a pure untouch unprocessed 480i signal over HDMI. No filters, no treatment.


Perfect for a scaler like the IScan HD+, Lumagen, Dragonfly or Gennum VXP. This new Elite will be REALLY popular with those scalers!


-The MPEG decoder is from Pioneer and derived from Broadcast VQ9 and supposed to be CUE free.


-HDMI 1.1, 10 bits.


-Dedicated power supply for the audio section.



Mine is already on order :D A true digital transport finally.
 

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I found this on a french canadian audio/video forum:

http://www.quebecaudio.com/forums/up...1123530621.jpg


-The best feature IMHO is the new "Direct Stream" video. It's a pure untouch unprocessed 480i signal over HDMI. No filters, no treatment.


Perfect for a scaler like the IScan HD+, Lumagen, Dragonfly or Gennum VXP. This new Elite will be REALLY popular with those scalers!


-The MPEG decoder is from Pioneer and derived from Broadcast VQ9 and supposed to be CUE free.


-HDMI 1.1, 10 bits.


-Dedicated power supply for the audio section.



Mine is already on order :D A true digital transport finally.
Very cool! :cool:
 

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A true digital transport finally.
To bad we still have to pay for all the analog audio & video conversion stuff! ;-)

This does look VERY tempting. Looking forward to your review.

Enjoy!
 

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Hi Kris Deering,


Please review this unit as soon as you have a chance n take us back to the Promised Land, since the Denon was a big detour. A lot of people are still mourning n hurting as you can read them on the 2910/3910 thread. Looking for firmware upgrade that they don't know what it is for , n I was once a victim in that blackhole too.
 

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Any pricing?


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Any pricing?
Sorry, I only have the Canadian prices.


MSRP: 1500$ cdn, "Street" price (per this rep): 1299$ cdn. Usually, US prices are alot cheaper, and not direct conversion with the exchange rate.


So probably around half the price (1/3 in Canada) of the Onkyo SP1000, and 1/3 of the Denon 5910 in the US... :D
 

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I doubt there answers to my questions but I'll ask them anyways..


Both the 59 and 79 do 480i over HDMI. Is there any differnce between the two? Is "Direct Stream" video just a catchy term tagged to the 79 that wasn't applied to the 59?


I was planning on picking up a 59 today. I will use it as follows: 59avi/480i/HDMI -> Faroudja DVP1080 / 1080p -> JVC HD2K. I see there are several enhancements to the audio section of the 79, will I see any signigicant benefits to video?


I know this is an unreleased product (in US) but I would would educated guesses nonetheless.
 
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