[dylan24]

It looks like California will pass strict energy efficiency laws for new TVs beginning in 2011. I've read elsewhere that currently no plasmas would meet the standards that Cal. would impose. Does anyone else have any more insight about what the manufacturers may have in mind? Are the new generations going to be much more efficient?


It looks like I'm going to have to upgrade my 7G Pio to a new Kuro soon. The Times article mentions that mail orders may thrive in California as a result of this law. However, with an item like a 60 inch plasma, I'm more inclined to buy local.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,2869589.story

 

[JazzGuyy]



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Originally Posted by dylan24 /forum/post/15447533


It looks like California will pass strict energy efficiency laws for new TVs beginning in 2011. I've read elsewhere that currently no plasmas would meet the standards that Cal. would impose. Does anyone else have any more insight about what the manufacturers may have in mind? Are the new generations going to be much more efficient?


It looks like I'm going to have to upgrade my 7G Pio to a new Kuro soon. The Times article mentions that mail orders may thrive in California as a result of this law. However, with an item like a 60 inch plasma, I'm more inclined to buy local.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,2869589.story

Much more efficient plasmas should be available by then. They have already been shown in prototype form by Panasonic and Pioneer.

 

[simplemath]

If it is energy per square inch...the current elites pass. Sony xbr8 lcd is a power hog for a 55" lcd

 

[xrox]

Looks like panasonic and Samsung have some power issues to deal with.

http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partner...ryWeber_DF.pdf

 

[greenland]



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Originally Posted by xrox /forum/post/15448327


Looks like panasonic and Samsung have some power issues to deal with.

http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partner...ryWeber_DF.pdf

My friend,


Pioneer, Hitachi, LG, and Panasonic have been certified as 3.0 compliant.


http://techblips.dailyradar.com/stor...s_energy_star/

 

[xrox]



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Originally Posted by greenland /forum/post/15448456


My friend,


Pioneer, Hitachi, LG, and Panasonic have been certified as 3.0 compliant.


http://techblips.dailyradar.com/stor...s_energy_star/

Sorry, I was just trying to point out how Samsung and Panasonic were seperated from other PDP manufacturers. Pioneer being the best and closest to the spec.

 

[greenland]



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Originally Posted by xrox /forum/post/15448606


Sorry, I was just trying to point out how Samsung and Panasonic were seperated from other PDP manufacturers. Pioneer being the best and closest to the spec.

Fair enough. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Regardless, they all have made impressive strides in energy efficiency. I am impressed by the following statement:


" TVs meant expensive and power hungry electronic, but those days are fading. Three of the largest players in the plasma world now have Energy Star Certified models which is a big feat. This means that a 42-inch PDP cannot consume more than 208 watts while on and less than a watt in standby mode"

 

[simplemath]

nice graph...it puts the plasma heat and energy myths to an end...that graph 4 years ago would have been a much different storey.

 

[HiFiFun]

The following link sorts all plasma displays by power consumed when turned on:
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...=on_mode_power


Of the leading brands the current Pioneer Elites are the hottest, especially the 50 inch. Anyone should be able to feel the heat radiating from the front, even at five feet away.

Realize this current generation will be made obsolete at the CES next week.

 

[simplemath]

I have my 12 grand ready for it.

 

[discopaul]

I'm confident Samsung will meet the energy efficiency requirements by 2011.

 

[wwwTOPDJcom]

wonder if this spec is true

Model #: PDP-6020FD Product Type: Television (TV)

Manufacturer: Pioneer Corporation

Brand Name: Pioneer

Model Name / Model Number: Flat Panel TV / PDP-6020FD

Technology: Both


Viewable Diagonal Screen Size: 59.9 Inches


On Mode Power: 355.6 W


Standby Power Consumption 0.21 W


Estimated Annual Energy Use: 650 kWh/year

 

[discopaul]

And as I stated, the newest Sammies are Energy Star 3.0 compliant.

 

[Olevia37HD]

GOD!!!!
"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old cathode-ray tube set, and a 48-inch plasma TV can draw more power than a large refrigerator even if the set is used only a few hours a day, California regulators said."

 

[GMan4911]

 List of all Energy Star 3.0 Certified TVs as of Jan 19, 2009

 

[JazzGuyy]



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Originally Posted by Olevia37HD /forum/post/15697376


GOD!!!!
"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old cathode-ray tube set, and a 48-inch plasma TV can draw more power than a large refrigerator even if the set is used only a few hours a day, California regulators said."

I'd like to see the proof behind that statement. All of the measurements I have ever seen don't indicate anything like that. Yes the power usage of the bulk of current plasmas is somewhat higher than LCDs (excluding LED-backlit ones) and both types of TV use somewhat more energy than CRTs (which had much smaller screens of course) but hardly 3 times the energy.

 

[David Susilo]



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Originally Posted by wwwTOPDJcom /forum/post/15493211


wonder if this spec is true

Model #: PDP-6020FD Product Type: Television (TV)

Manufacturer: Pioneer Corporation

Brand Name: Pioneer

Model Name / Model Number: Flat Panel TV / PDP-6020FD

Technology: Both


Viewable Diagonal Screen Size: 59.9 Inches


On Mode Power: 355.6 W


Standby Power Consumption 0.21 W


Estimated Annual Energy Use: 650 kWh/year

maybe in full contrast, full brightness, 100% white for the entire screen... which never happen in real world.

 

[David Susilo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Olevia37HD /forum/post/15697376


GOD!!!!
"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old cathode-ray tube set, and a 48-inch plasma TV can draw more power than a large refrigerator — even if the set is used only a few hours a day, California regulators said."

maybe the full statement is as follows:


the average 50" plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old 13" CRT set. and 48" plasma TV showing full-field 100% white with full contrast and brightness settings turned up can draw more power than a large but unplugged refrigerator...

The quoted statement above is the biggest BS I've ever seen.

 

[daniel'son]



Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwTOPDJcom /forum/post/15493211


wonder if this spec is true

Model #: PDP-6020FD Product Type: Television (TV)

Manufacturer: Pioneer Corporation

Brand Name: Pioneer

Model Name / Model Number: Flat Panel TV / PDP-6020FD

Technology: Both


Viewable Diagonal Screen Size: 59.9 Inches


On Mode Power: 355.6 W


Standby Power Consumption 0.21 W


Estimated Annual Energy Use: 650 kWh/year

http://kuro9g.blogspot.com/2009/01/p...nsumption.html

 

[joemama127]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Olevia37HD /forum/post/15697376


GOD!!!!
"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old cathode-ray tube set, and a 48-inch plasma TV can draw more power than a large refrigerator — even if the set is used only a few hours a day, California regulators said."

Then again...there has never been a 48" plasma. But I guess if this mythical beast existed it would suck enough power to light up a small town for a week.

I have never measured the draw from any of my plasmas...but I do know that when I got my first over 4 years ago there was noticeable difference in my electric bill versus using my old 32" Sony tube tv. I now have 3 plasmas...but rarely is there more than one on at any one time.