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I'm really new to HTPC just need some basic advice


I have a Dell Vostro 400 running Core 2 duo 2.33Ghz with 3 gig memory and a NVIDIA 9800 GT with 2 dvi & 1 S-Video no HDMI out


I want to pipe it in to my home theater room through my Sony STR-DA3400ES to view on my JVC RS1 front projector


Looking for advice on what I'll need what my options are and whats the best way to accomplish this ?
 

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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18239325


I'm really new to HTPC just need some basic advice


I have a Dell Vostro 400 running Core 2 duo 2.33Ghz with 3 gig memory and a NVIDIA 9800 GT with 2 dvi & 1 S-Video no HDMI out


I want to pipe it in to my home theater room through my Sony STR-DA3400ES to view on my JVC RS1 front projector


Looking for advice on what I'll need what my options are and whats the best way to accomplish this ?

Bump up for some advice please
 

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Not exactly sure what kind of advice you are looking for.


I'd run windows 7 32bit. Use Windows Media Center with Media Browser Plug-in.


Start there and ask more specific questions as you have them.
 

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not sure why 32bit over 64bit but i agree windows 7 with media center. I use mymovies but media browser is pretty cool too.


I'd suggest buying an ati5454 ($50) or larger card as this will give you HDMI and lossless audio (DTS-HD, True-HD) if your reciever supports HDMI
 

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Not exactly sure what kind of advice you are looking for.


I'd run windows 7 32bit. Use Windows Media Center with Media Browser Plug-in.


Start there and ask more specific questions as you have them.

Thanks I am running Windows 7


My more specific question would to start would be if i adapt the DVI out of the NVIDIA 9800 GT to HDMI what will I need to do to get sound out also ?
 

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My more specific question would to start would be if i adapt the DVI out of the NVIDIA 9800 GT to HDMI what will I need to do to get sound out also ?

The analog output of the PC to receiver will allow you to manage the sound if you don't have SPDIF output.
 

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Seems the NVIDIA 9800 GT has a connection for a SPDIF but My dell mother has no SPDIF connector.

I have no sound card installed using the dells on board audio


Does it make sense to use a old Sound Blaster Live I have with a SPDIF connector on it ?


Also I'm not really clear here after i connect the SPDIF cable from the sound card to video card and use the DVI to HDMI adapter will the HDMI cable carry the sound out the my Sony STR-DA3400ES

receiver ?






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Thanks I am running Windows 7


My more specific question would to start would be if i adapt the DVI out of the NVIDIA 9800 GT to HDMI what will I need to do to get sound out also ?
 

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You'll be better off having the AVR handle the audio by itself and the video card only providing the video to the projector.
 

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Please explain


Exactly what cables do i need ?


How am I hooking this up ?






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You'll be better off having the AVR handle the audio by itself and the video card only providing the video to the projector.
 

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The simplest way is to use the sound card you have (Sound Blaster Live) with the SPDIF connection to the receiver and a DVI to HDMI cable to the projector...


Video card -> DVI to HDMI cable -> Projector


Sound card -> SPDIF optical/digital cable -> AVR
 

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The simplest way is to use the sound card you have (Sound Blaster Live) with the SPDIF connection to the receiver and a DVI to HDMI cable to the projector...


Video card -> DVI to HDMI cable -> Projector


Sound card -> SPDIF optical/digital cable -> AVR

Thanks the for the advice I really appreciate it


The Sound card I have only has internal SPDIF pin connectors one that says SPDIF CD the other says SPDIF EXT.


Is there a way to run the internal SPDIF out to my to my AVR would i be just better off getting a different sound card with a true optical out or should i grab a new video card with HDMI and if i do go with a new Video card with HDMI will i still need to hook up a internal SPDIF cable from a sound card to Video card ?


Whats my best option ?
 

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Bump this back up for more info


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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18246924


Thanks the for the advice I really appreciate it


The Sound card I have only has internal SPDIF pin connectors one that says SPDIF CD the other says SPDIF EXT.


Is there a way to run the internal SPDIF out to my to my AVR would i be just better off getting a different sound card with a true optical out or should i grab a new video card with HDMI and if i do go with a new Video card with HDMI will i still need to hook up a internal SPDIF cable from a sound card to Video card ?


Whats my best option ?
 

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Bump this back up for more info

Forget SPDIF and everything else.


Get a ATI 5XXX series video card and bitstream (passthrough) all your audio to the Sony and let it handle all audio.

Any HD 5000 card; from the lowly 5450 ($50) to 5750 ($150) and beyond, will decode HD video and bitstream HD audio over one single HDMI cable.


You have a (relatively) expensive receiver with HDMI inputs and HD audio decoders. Use it!

Just my 2 cents!
 

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Will the ATI cards handle all my audio needs with out having to do anything else with a sound card like connect a SPDIF from sound card to the ATI ?


Also will the ATI cards look good and utilize fill the full screen on my projector for normal desktop ?

I'm not a gamer just chatting web and some business stuff


I'm reading people are having problems at full 1080p resolution in Win 7 it won't fit the screen right


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Originally Posted by hirent /forum/post/18249286


Forget SPDIF and everything else.


Get a ATI 5XXX series video card and bitstream (passthrough) all your audio to the Sony and let it handle all audio.

Any HD 5000 card; from the lowly 5450 ($50) to 5750 ($150) and beyond, will decode HD video and bitstream HD audio over one single HDMI cable.


You have a (relatively) expensive receiver with HDMI inputs and HD audio decoders. Use it!

Just my 2 cents!
 

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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18251029


Will the ATI cards handle all my audio needs with out having to do anything else with a sound card like connect a SPDIF from sound card to the ATI ?

Yes, all ATI HD series video cards (2/3/4/5000) have an onboard audio controller chip. The 5000 series has built-in PAP which will allow the right software to passthrough/bitstream untouched HD audio codecs (Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD) to your receiver using one single HDMI cable. You simply install drivers, that's it, no extra connections.

Read more about them in the ATI 5000 threads, they have plenty of information on installation, drivers, problems, fixes, etc.

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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18251029


Also will the ATI cards look good and utilize fill the full screen on my projector for normal desktop ?

I'm not a gamer just chatting web and some business stuff

Utilizing Full Screen is a scaling issue, not a video chip problem per se. The video looks great (HD as well as up-scaled SD) and there is a scaling slider to adjust screen size in ATI's CCC.

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I'm reading people are having problems at full 1080p resolution in Win 7 it won't fit the screen right

Haven't come across such problems; maybe I'm not understanding you right.


All ATI HD video cards (since the 2000) are fully capable of decoding HD video. I have used at least one from each series and currently own all except the 3000 series.
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hirent /forum/post/18249286


Forget SPDIF and everything else.


Get a ATI 5XXX series video card and bitstream (passthrough) all your audio to the Sony and let it handle all audio.

Any HD 5000 card; from the lowly 5450 ($50) to 5750 ($150) and beyond, will decode HD video and bitstream HD audio over one single HDMI cable.


You have a (relatively) expensive receiver with HDMI inputs and HD audio decoders. Use it!

Just my 2 cents!

Hmmm..! What's wrong with having the hardware he has work for him and then let him judge for himself?


If at any point afterwards he's unsatisfied with the results so far he still has another choice. Not to mention a whole other set of quirks trying to get everything working through HDMI. Is not at all as simple as you make it sound, to me that's just another can of worms with a different label, been there done that.

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Originally Posted by Kram1 /forum/post/18248886



Bump this back up for more info

Once installed, the sound card you would be using doesn't need any other cables other then the optical/digital cable you'll be connecting to your AVR. Select the card as your primary audio output source and you're good to go.
 

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Originally Posted by zzyckz /forum/post/18251476


Hmmm..! What's wrong with having the hardware he has work for him and then let him judge for himself?


If at any point afterwards he's unsatisfied with the results so far he still has another choice. Not to mention a whole other set of quirks trying to get everything working through HDMI. Is not at all as simple as you make it sound, to me that's just another can of worms with a different label, been there done that.


Once installed, the sound card you would be using doesn't need any other cables other then the optical/digital cable you'll be connecting to your AVR. Select the card as your primary audio output source and you're good to go.

True!

That is why I generally add "Just my 2 cents" to any info/advice I post. If I write 'Please', it sounds as if I'm begging for others to follow my opinion. Its just my opinion and users can read and judge for themselves what works best for them.


I try to consider what equipment is being used in conjunction with the question being asked. My thinking tends to run towards using what I paid for.


In OP's case, a Sony STR-DA3400ES is being used. That is a $1000 receiver, (maybe cheaper if you can find a deal).

So why skimp on spending $50 when $1000 (+ more for speakers & sub) have been spent. It doesn't make sense to use SPDIF when HD audio can be had for $50.


Also, more importantly, OP asked about purchasing another sound card or video card.


And of course its not as simple as it sounds; with a HTPC it never is.

This is a help forum. To help and learn is what we are here for. Since no one had posted about HD audio bitstreaming, I figured I would.

I directed OP to other threads to read up about problems and fixes with the 5000 solution.

I assume he will think about it and do what suits him best.


Cheers!
 

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Once installed, the sound card you would be using doesn't need any other cables other then the optical/digital cable you'll be connecting to your AVR. Select the card as your primary audio output source and you're good to go.

The Sound card I have only has internal SPDIF pin connectors one that says SPDIF CD the other says SPDIF EXT.


Is there a way to run the internal SPDIF out to my to my Sony AVR ?
 

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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18251845


The Sound card I have only has internal SPDIF pin connectors one that says SPDIF CD the other says SPDIF EXT.


Is there a way to run the internal SPDIF out to my to my Sony AVR ?

hmm....convert the pin headers into a co-axial port.

With something like this .
 

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Originally Posted by kram1 /forum/post/18245736


Does it make sense to use a old Sound Blaster Live I have with a SPDIF connector on it ?

Just realized your sound card is a SB Live. That card has a SPDIF port.

The top most port is generally the SPDIF port. Simply run a 3.5mm-to-RCA cable from that port to the 'Coaxial IN' on your receiver and you should be set.

What is the model # of your card? I'm not sure if it would be supported in Win 7.


Just curious, what is the rest of your setup; speakers, subs, display devices?
 
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