I totally agree, and I'm glad HD DVD has not gone with region coding. Now, if they could just make the HD-A1 region free so it could play all the movies I have from other regions!!!
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True region coding won't affect the masses but early adopters are already looking at the foreign BD and HD DVD releases. It matters to us.
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Read the last line of that article again. 
If I'm going to criticize HD DVD fans for saying that more support for their format is coming based on speculation and no facts I'm going to have to do the same for this.
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I say you're nuts. Region coding makes BD even less consumer friendly than it is now. This news is clearly a plus for HD DVD, although a small one in the grand scheme of things.
| Originally Posted by thebland I see this as a non-issue. 99.9999999999% of buyers buy their software here in the USA. |
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| Besides at some point, HD DVD will do the same. |
If I'm going to criticize HD DVD fans for saying that more support for their format is coming based on speculation and no facts I'm going to have to do the same for this.Quote:
| I say...good news for BluRay!! |
Region coding makes BD even less consumer friendly than it is now. This news is clearly a plus for HD DVD, although a small one in the grand scheme of things.
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Yes, agreed and two things: (a) Aren't many saying that the early adopters (their profits, their influence, etc) will win the war? and (b) I have to question that 99.99% figure in this day and age (and yes, I know it was an exaggeration ). I mean, with internet shopping mainstream and the internet in general making it so easy to import and find out which movies are out where in their best version -- plus the fact that many people have now broadened their tastes with the mainstream US successes of certain foreign films -- plus the fact that many people have that "one" favorite film that they want to buy/learn everything about as a collector/whatever...I think that 99.99% figure may be surprisingly lower than we would at first assume.
And, moreover, due to all this and an increased trend in researching product features before purchase - I can only imagine that the value of knowing a player or disc is capable of being played anywhere will continue to grow in the future. Ya know, now that "everyone" is into HDTVs, starting to becoming more interested in home theaters, etc. People will find out one format is region-free, has one extra feature over the other and go "why shouldn't I buy this one instead?" (I mean, besides all the postive buzz/advantages HD DVD already has over BD anyway )
| Originally Posted by nyg True region coding won't affect the masses but early adopters are already looking at the foreign BD and HD DVD releases. It matters to us. |
). I mean, with internet shopping mainstream and the internet in general making it so easy to import and find out which movies are out where in their best version -- plus the fact that many people have now broadened their tastes with the mainstream US successes of certain foreign films -- plus the fact that many people have that "one" favorite film that they want to buy/learn everything about as a collector/whatever...I think that 99.99% figure may be surprisingly lower than we would at first assume.And, moreover, due to all this and an increased trend in researching product features before purchase - I can only imagine that the value of knowing a player or disc is capable of being played anywhere will continue to grow in the future. Ya know, now that "everyone" is into HDTVs, starting to becoming more interested in home theaters, etc. People will find out one format is region-free, has one extra feature over the other and go "why shouldn't I buy this one instead?" (I mean, besides all the postive buzz/advantages HD DVD already has over BD anyway
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I have never figured out what the practical reason for regional coding is? Why do studios prefer it?
| Originally Posted by darinp2 From a consumer point of view it does seem like a good plus for HD DVD, but from a studio point of view it might be a negative for HD DVD. Remember, there wouldn't be region encoding if at least some content providers didn't want it. I would like to know how Disney and Fox voted. --Darin |
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Region coding SHOULD be a non-issue because it is worthless. Anyone who wants to get around it on SD DVD can purchase a region-free player for $70 and watch discs from anywhere in the world. Now there's a great system for controlling where your released product can be viewed. If region coding becomes an issue with BD or HD-DVD, guess what? It will be circumvented. Hey studios - IT DOESN'T WORK. Why is this an issue and WHY are you even bothering with it? You'd think that after a decade of it NOT WORKING you'd realize that the implementation of the concept is a compete failure.
That being said, the fact that HD-DVD has no region coding means that I can watch titles that are being released in Europe but not in the U.S., some of which will only available on Blu-ray here. Until the "format war" gets sorted out, that IS a factor.
| Originally Posted by BMarczak I just got done reading that at HighDefDigest myself, and the one question that came to my mind is, 'Would the lack of region coding on HD DVD keep studios currently supporting Blu-Ray from also supporting HD DVD?' If the lack of region coding keeps studios like Disney (and its' subsidaries) and Fox from supporting HD DVD then, in my opinion, it's not a win for anyone. |
If region coding becomes an issue with BD or HD-DVD, guess what? It will be circumvented. Hey studios - IT DOESN'T WORK. Why is this an issue and WHY are you even bothering with it? You'd think that after a decade of it NOT WORKING you'd realize that the implementation of the concept is a compete failure.That being said, the fact that HD-DVD has no region coding means that I can watch titles that are being released in Europe but not in the U.S., some of which will only available on Blu-ray here. Until the "format war" gets sorted out, that IS a factor.
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AFAIK it's because a movie may open in, say Australia, 3 months after it opens in the US, and studios do not want a US dvd that is playable in Australian dvd players to be available before the movie opens there.
| Originally Posted by plazman I have never figured out what the practical reason for regional coding is? Why do studios prefer it? |
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Right. And to you guys who say this benefits the consumer and not studios - I say oh, well. By and large, what the consumer wants is what happens. Fox and Disney backed DIVX and you know how that turned out.
Like "dpippel" suggests - studios will need to change their mentality and get behind the idea that things like region coding and being able to make movie back-ups (to some extent, at least) are what the consumer wants in this age where Napster, DVD-burners, and mass PC/internet use all exist and have become mainstream. If they don't get this - the consumer will either circumvent their product or they will not buy it period.
I swear, many of these studios/companies exist in that "corporate bubble" where, try as they might, they cannot see outside to what the world demands around them and are too motivated by greed (perhaps) to provide it anyway - until much of the pie has already been taken up by those who "got it" from the start.
| Originally Posted by dpippel Region coding SHOULD be a non-issue because it is worthless. Anyone who wants to get around it on SD DVD can purchase a region-free player for $70 and watch discs from anywhere in the world. Now there's a great system for controlling where your released product can be viewed. If region coding becomes an issue with BD or HD-DVD, guess what? It will be circumvented. Hey studios - IT DOESN'T WORK. Why is this an issue and WHY are you even bothering with it? You'd think that after a decade of it NOT WORKING you'd realize that the implementation of the concept is a compete failure.That being said, the fact that HD-DVD has no region coding means that I can watch titles that are being released in Europe but not in the U.S., some of which will only available on Blu-ray here. Until the "format war" gets sorted out, that IS a factor. |
Like "dpippel" suggests - studios will need to change their mentality and get behind the idea that things like region coding and being able to make movie back-ups (to some extent, at least) are what the consumer wants in this age where Napster, DVD-burners, and mass PC/internet use all exist and have become mainstream. If they don't get this - the consumer will either circumvent their product or they will not buy it period.
I swear, many of these studios/companies exist in that "corporate bubble" where, try as they might, they cannot see outside to what the world demands around them and are too motivated by greed (perhaps) to provide it anyway - until much of the pie has already been taken up by those who "got it" from the start.
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