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NFL Sunday Ticket, including all the HD that's available, is only available on DirecTV.
 

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I thought Time Warner offered it... don't they have something that's similar then?

No. Just locally available games.
 

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I thought Time Warner offered it... don't they have something that's similar then?

DirecTV has an exclusive contract. No other satellite or cable operator can offer similar programming. Cable operators can and do offer NBA, NHL and MLB packages but the NFL package is strictly for DirecTV.
 

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I thought Time Warner offered it... don't they have something that's similar then?

I think you're confusing Sunday Ticket with the package of games that are available via The NFL Network. The NFL Network games ARE available via cable. Whether you can see the games in HD depends on your local cable co.
 

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DirecTV has an exclusive contract. No other satellite or cable operator can offer similar programming. Cable operators can and do offer NBA, NHL and MLB packages but the NFL package is strictly for DirecTV.

Well, that's crappy. I can see why, it almost makes me want to switch to DirecTV.


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I think you're confusing Sunday Ticket with the package of games that are available via The NFL Network. The NFL Network games ARE available via cable. Whether you can see the games in HD depends on your local cable co.

No, I guess that since I see TWC offering NHL and NBA packages now, that they'd be able to offer NFL too. Besides, TWC doesn't offer the NFL Network either.
 

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DirecTV has had the exclusive on NFL Sunday Ticket for the better part of a decade now (it was also on C-Band back in the mid 90s). It runs through 2010 and you can bet the farm they will renew it.
 

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DirecTV has had the exclusive on NFL Sunday Ticket for the better part of a decade now (it was also on C-Band back in the mid 90s). It runs through 2010 and you can bet the farm they will renew it.

Yeah, since the NFL likes to deal with exclusives (ie: EA is the only game company given the NFL Licence) and i'm guessing that DirecTV has a bigger subscription base than any of the individual cable companies, I doubt the NFL is really shopping around for a different distribution.


From what I've heard (I don't know a single person with Satalite and a HDTV) the quality of HD from DirecTV is kinda ****** for HD. I'd really much rather deal with a snowy image of analog on standard cable than a pixilated version of HD.
 

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and i'm guessing that DirecTV has a bigger subscription base than any of the individual cable companies

No, they were just willing to pay more for the exclusive rights than any other cable or satellite company.
 

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No, they were just willing to pay more for the exclusive rights than any other cable or satellite company.

And the NFL does not want the widest possible distribution of Sunday Ticket because they are concerned about alienating their network partners (would dilute ratings at the local level if everyone had access to ST).


So DirecTV offers the best of both worlds, huge cash and exclusive enough not to cut into the overall audience for local affiliates.
 

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And the NFL does not want the widest possible distribution of Sunday Ticket because they are concerned about alienating their network partners (would dilute ratings at the local level if everyone had access to ST).


So DirecTV offers the best of both worlds, huge cash and exclusive enough not to cut into the overall audience for local affiliates.

Your local NFL telecasts are not available via ST. Games broadcast in your area on any given week are blacked out via ST. The only way to watch them would be through your local FOX or CBS affiliate.
 

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Your local NFL telecasts are not available via ST. Games broadcast in your area on any given week are blacked out via ST. The only way to watch them would be through your local FOX or CBS affiliate.

I know the local games are blacked out.


What I was talking about is the fact that the NFL is concerned that if everyone had access to every game via Sunday Ticket they wouldn't watch the game being broadcast locally, instead watching other games not included in the ratings via Sunday Ticket, and ratings would drop for the local affiliates on the game being broadcast because the audience is obviously diluted.
 

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Yeah, since the NFL likes to deal with exclusives (ie: EA is the only game company given the NFL Licence) and i'm guessing that DirecTV has a bigger subscription base than any of the individual cable companies, I doubt the NFL is really shopping around for a different distribution.


From what I've heard (I don't know a single person with Satalite and a HDTV) the quality of HD from DirecTV is kinda ****** for HD. I'd really much rather deal with a snowy image of analog on standard cable than a pixilated version of HD.

Actually the NFL in fact makes it open bidding. The last time it was available for bid the cable companies had their chance but they turned it down, saying it was too much money. Then they turn around and cry to congress that they don't have Sunday Ticket. Well cry me a river cable, put up or shut up.


Quality of my HD is tons better then our crappy cable system around here. Maybe it's "******" but it's the best I can get.
 

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I believe it was open at one time but the last extension D* signed with the NFL was actually in in-contract extension and not open bid at all. It is likely that D* and the NFL will extend once again before the 2010 ending of the contract.
 

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I believe it was open at one time but the last extension D* signed with the NFL was actually in in-contract extension and not open bid at all. It is likely that D* and the NFL will extend once again before the 2010 ending of the contract.


That is the urban legend, but it is not at all true, tony.


The contract negotiations were open, and cable famously walked away saying the deal was "too rich for our blood".

Ticket too high
Cable Punts On Pricey NFL Slate

By Steve Donohue & Mike Reynolds Multichannel News Nov. 15, 2004


Cable operators have complained for years about losing customers who jumped to satellite for DirecTV Inc.'s exclusive NFL Sunday Ticket package. But when cable recently had an opportunity to buy the National Football League's out-of-market pay-per-view offering, Comcast Corp. and other operators took a pass.


It's no secret cable was interested in Sunday Ticket, but the price was too high, said Cable & Telecommunications Association for Marketing CEO Char Beales, referring to the five-year, $3.5 billion contract extension DirecTV cut with the NFL last week, giving it rights to 14 live games each Sunday through the 2010 season.


At $700 million per annum, DirecTV's new contract represents a 75% hike over the $400 million it is paying per season under the pact signed two years ago that was slated to extend through the 2007 campaign.

http://www.multichannel.com/index.as...cleID=CA480250
 

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And the NFL does not want the widest possible distribution of Sunday Ticket because they are concerned about alienating their network partners (would dilute ratings at the local level if everyone had access to ST).


So DirecTV offers the best of both worlds, huge cash and exclusive enough not to cut into the overall audience for local affiliates.


Bingo!


Sinced Fox and CBS lose money (hundres of millions fo dollars, by the way) on their network deals -- but do make quite a bit back in selling commercials on their owned and operated stations -- anything which hurts their ratings would drive down, probably dramatically, the amount the broadcast networks would be willing to pay for the OTA NFL rights.
 

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You have a source on this?

Sure, lots, google is your friend, but you can take fredfa's word for it.
 
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