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does anyone have a link to a tutorial for Womble for removing comercials/editing etc.. without re-encoding?
 

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Rich A might. There are just a few buttons to use. Mark in and out, copy, and record. There are other ways to do this but this is quick and it works very reliably.


I open the mpeg file in womble.


Use the slider "scrubber" and go to the start of your file. Mark the beginning.


Scrub to the first commercial and mark the end. Now "copy" this clip to the womble clipboard.


Next scrub thru the commercial block and mark the next beginning segment. Scrub to the next break and mark the end.


Copy Clip2 to the clipboard.


Repeat thru the show. (this whole process takes about 3-4 minutes to go thru a show)


Now close the video window.


Go to the clipboard and double click clip1


In the video window use the lower right button to jump to the end of the clip.


Select and drag clip2 onto the open video window. A dialog box will open and the clip will be inserted at the end.


Use the lower right button again and jump to the end again.


Drag Clip3 onto the video window and repeat the steps


Repeat till all clips are added.


Now click the record button, DO NOT make any changes to the settings in the dialog box other than giving the clip a name. If you leave all settings alone (mpeg2 program stream) the record will only take 1-2 minutes for a 30 minute show. If you change settings Womble will transcode the show and take lots of time.


That's a start, this whole process sounds like alot but only takes a few minutes per show.
 

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Thansk Ed.


Now I tried out your suggestions and burned a SVCD of an X-files episode I recorded, I recorded at low quality, had to turn off like every compliance check in VCDeasy (maybe nero would complain less?) It's GREAT, I looked at it as an investment in the number of TV series DVD sets I won't need to buy since I can just record and make my own sets this way.


The question I have I guess is do you know what recording qualities can be used without re-encoding on SVCD and DVD-R?


I know the low can be used as SVCD no problem but can Medium quality or does the bitrate go too high? And I assume DVD can use any of the three no problem?


Anyway thanks again Ed, I knew it was possible to do it Fast... but every time I was trying it was re-encoding and taking ages.
 

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I don't know about SVCD but I believe that Medium might work OK. I use medium always and burn to DVD or batch transcode to MPEG1 using TMPGenc for palmtop viewing.


Anyhow glad it worked for you!
 

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Mine is simple.


1. open mpg file in womble. Move the slider until you are at

the begining of the Video to keep start.

2. Tag the frame with Mark in.

3. Delete all left frames (trim left). Clears all episode crap at beggining.

4. Move slider until commerical begining.

5. Mark in.

6. Move slider until commerical seq end.

7. Mark out.

8. Cut inclusive.

9. Repeat steps 4-8 for all commericals.

10. Move the slider to the end of video to save.

11. Mark out.

12. Delete all right frames. (Trim right). Clears all end crap.

13. Hit the save button. Hint: Saving to a different HD will speed the save.


Convert the resulting file to what ever format you want.


Remember to fix GOP on the orginal before any editing. Lot's of

time frame GOP errors on stuff off the replay. And they effect how

the editing will result.


Taa Daa
 

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The problem with doppler's method is that it is the one most likely to end up with audio sync errors. Some people never get them, but too many people do for that method to be truly reliable.


The copy to clipboard method is currently the most reliable way, as it doesn't actually "cut" anything that could mess up the sound.
 

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I agree that Doppler's method works faster, in fact that's how I originally did it. And Heathriel is correct, this method is hit and miss on success. It should work but Womble needs a small bug fix I think, because sync errors and worse are common.


The cut and paste method seems to almost always work.
 

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Heathriel, Might have explained a few miss sync'ed mpegs

off my replay. I usually get 99% completion without mishap.

Most of the audio sync errors I have seen have been in the

micro-sec catagory. Just enought out for the brain to notice.


I think I will try from now on to do the clip/paste series. Getting

womble to "FIX" the cut-in-seq sync error might not be possible.

Since the mpeg2's which are generated by replay are not

"Normal" audio sample bit rates. And this is the answer from

womble. About someone elses problem video.


The real way is to cut-in-seq. Since womble is unlikely to fix this.

I will have to use the more time comsuming clip seq. Of course

I could be wrong. Since womble is the perfered methode of replay

users. It would really be to thier advantage to fix rather than

complain about "un-normal" audio bit rates and lose sales.
 

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Woo Thanks! I succesfully did a Episode of X-files and some other stuff to XSVCD now to try a DVD burn tonight.... I've never actually done video to DVD go figure, I used it as a huge data storage type.
 
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