I've been playing around with several of the Android TV apps on my Sony TV. They more or less seem to be in line with their respective app on Roku. Hulu is not 5.1 across the board, nor is it on Roku, but newer content mostly is in 5.1 DD+. Shows I've watched recently on that are 5.1 are Manifest (seasons 1& 2) and Homeland (seasons 1 to 8). Manifest was 5.1 in both seasons. Homeland was interesting. Season 1 was 5.1, then sometime in season 2 or 3 it switched to stereo then the last season was 5.1 again. Kind of weird. I've watched a lot of stuff (mostly recent TV episodes) on Hulu over the last few years; most of it has been 5.1 DD+. Older stuff that I've watched (Scrubs, Seinfeld) were in stereo but newer stuff has been mostly 5.1.IIRC from the ATV4K thread, not having 5.1 multichannel for Hulu Live TV was a deal breaker for you. Have you confirmed it’s 5.1 on the Shield?
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So then the Shield is similar in stability and performance to stock Android on a higher end or flagship phone. If that is true, then I would have no qualms about getting one.I love to think of it more like a nice Android that's been rooted like a Galaxy with all the Samsung bloatware/ layering removed so it can perform at it's best. This is why I like LG phones better as well. Not as much bs loaded on them and you can get rid of more of it so it runs better!
I've had a great experience so far with mine. I previously had Firetv 4k's in the house. It outperforms those all day, and allows you to do more tinkering around. The home UI is nothing exciting to look at or flashy but it works, and it works well. Very snappy. My Firetv 4k sticks would freeze and get boggy sometimes and were speced similarly. Currently you will not get atmos on prime, it had it when I got it, and is advertised as supported by Shield on the website chart. In assuming it's Prime issue right now. You will not get Hulu content that is in 4k (Hulu Originals) in 4k. They will be in 1080. Hulu kind of sucks anyways though. They half ass a lot of **** in general. The 4k stuff they do have is not HDR. A lot of their content isn't even in 5.1. Other than that it's the device other than Apple that checks all the boxes.So then the Shield is similar in stability and performance to stock Android on a higher end or flagship phone. If that is true, then I would have no qualms about getting one.
Yes, raw LPCM can not carry Atmos. That's why the LPCM base and Atmos metadata are wrapped inside a Dolby MAT 2.0 bitstream container.However, as far as I know, LPCM isn't being used to carry Atmos or DTS:X - for those you still need to bitstream.
A few days ago, when this issue was first flagged, I checked and found that I got Atmos on Prime through the Shield on The Aeronauts, so if other programs don't come through with Atmos, it's an encoding issue on those programs, not any incompatibility between Prime and the Shield.... Currently you will not get atmos on prime, it had it when I got it, and is advertised as supported by Shield on the website chart. In assuming it's Prime issue right now ...
The question is what AVRs or audio processors can decode that format.Yes, raw LPCM can not carry Atmos. That's why the LPCM base and Atmos metadata are wrapped inside a Dolby MAT 2.0 bitstream container.
Bottom of page 12: https://professional.dolby.com/siteassets/tv/home/dolby-atmos/dolby-atmos-for-home-theater.pdf
I have not heard any Atmos capable AVR does not support Dolby MAT format. Compatibility is not an issue since Xbox One and ATV 4K have been using it for quite a few years now.The question is what AVRs or audio processors can decode that format.
The PDF from Dolby that you link to (which is from 2016) gives no indication of what AVRs or processors can decode MAT, implying that all Atmos-enabled decoders can.
However, the manual for my Yamaha Aventage RX-A3070, which was introduced in 2017 and plays both DD+/Atmos and TrueHD/Atmos, doesn't even mention MAT.
I don't see the point in taking a DD+/Atmos stream that all Atmos-compatible decoders can play and re-encoding it as a format that only a few can.
My understanding is that nobody lists Dobly MAT as a supported format because it is not a well publicized format. However, Dolby seems to require the support from day one for any receiver that licesned to support Atmos.Well, I can't test compatibility with my setup since my Shield, Roku, and FireStick don't convert anything to MAT, and I'm not about to buy an Apple TV or an Xbox just to test that.
Why wouldn't Yamaha list MAT in its manual if it could play it?
And while I can see that it's less effort for a game to output MAT, why bother transcoding DD+/Atmos to MAT, which not only adds lag at the ATV 4K but puts a heavier data load on the HDMI transmission?
Depending what you are doing, e.g. playing games might be useful for that 25% increase. But in general media playback, it seems not much difference. It still can't play YouTube HDR.But about 25% faster than the previous version of the processor.
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Any that can do Atmos. MAT is also used to transport TrueHD. Here's all the Dolby formats from my Denon's EDID:The question is what AVRs or audio processors can decode that format.
AC-3: Max channels: 6 Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32 Maximum bit rate: 640 kb/s Dolby Digital+: Max channels: 8 Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 Supports Joint Object Coding Supports Joint Object Coding with ACMOD28 MAT (MLP): Max channels: 8 Supported sample rates (kHz): 192 176.4 96 88.2 48 44.1
They didn't list it before Atmos existed for TrueHD so why should they list it now that Atmos and LPCM were added to it? It's just a container format, not an audio codec.Why wouldn't Yamaha list MAT in its manual if it could play it?
It lets them mix in other sound effects on the fly. And it does not put any extra data load on HDMI. Audio is encoded in the horizontal and vertical blanking intervals. An HDMI signal with compressed stereo Dolby Digital will take the exact same HDMI bandwidth as one with 7.1 LPCM.And while I can see that it's less effort for a game to output MAT, why bother transcoding DD+/Atmos to MAT, which not only adds lag at the ATV 4K but puts a heavier data load on the HDMI transmission?