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Although elsewhere on AVS Forum there is a 2010 Bravia lineup thread,


THIS thread is specific to the 2010 Sony (LCD) "HX"701 Cold cathode fluorescent lamp (CCFL) model of HDTV. Please post known factual information and verified calibration settings, owners adjustments etc.


At this time of original posting, March 8, 2010 the Sony HX701 model is a Canadian model offered to certain Americans. American XBR1 owners are being offered the Sony HX701 at a reduced rate in exchange for SXRD green blobs and yellow stains that recur on Sony XBR1 (and other LCOS models) circa 2005, 2006, 2007.


Anticipate availability in approximately mid-April 2010 in the USA via the Sony SXRD exchange program. There is some discussion of the HX701 herein within this AVSforum within the "Rear Projection Models" folder.


Although for other Sony Bravia models the XX0 vs. XX1 numeric distinction is intended to indicate a "Costco-specific" model, to the best of my knowledge at this time ... the HX701 is NOT a Costco-specific model. In the general internet web there are google results for an Asian 701 model, but it is not clear to me via Google Translation Toolbar if such an Asian HX701 is nearly similar to a Canadian HX701 or not. Perhaps a reader or lurker familiar with the language can contribute additional information in that regard.


The existing 2010 Bravia lineup thread covers a wide variety of models, contains inaccurate speculation, covers a wide geographic area, and hence is rather disorganized. Hence, THIS THREAD is specific to the 2010 Sony HX701 LCD CCFL HDTV.


Best regards to owners and potential owners. Enjoy your new HDTV.


Certainly, feel free to share your various opinions of 2010 Sony "HX"701 LCD CCFL HDTV picture settings, adjustments, tweaks, calibration results and overall impressions.



Leo Henton, a consumer, not affiliated with Sony.
 

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I am very curious to know where this tv slots into the overall Sony lineup, especially with respect to the EX700 series.
 

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I am very curious to know where this tv slots into the overall Sony lineup, especially with respect to the EX700 series.


I found the following from flatpanelshd.com







Hope this helps - and i feel probably worth being included as it DOES include the HX701 and the features it has - for further discussion of comparison, it might be a good idea to look at this thread
 

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excerpt from http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article....&id=1265975930 for the 200 Hz European models.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article....&id=1265975930


Sony 2010 Bravia line-up - with prices - 12 Feb 2010


Sony had invited press people to Hilton Hotel in Copenhagen to see the new 2010 Bravia line-up. FlatpanelsHD participated and were able to get a closer look at most of the new Bravia ranges.


Please note that all prices have been converted from Danish suggested retail prices and may vary in other countries.


FlatpanelsHD will soon receive some of the new Sony 2010 TVs.

Cinematic Series
The Cinematic series offers the best picture quality from Sony at the moment, and Sony has tried to take the cinema experience into the living room. "some of the" Cinematic TVs combine LED backlighting with Motionflow technology.

Cinematic HX700
HX700 is the step down from HX800 that does not feature the Edge LED backlight and only the non-PRO Motionflow system meaning that no scanning backlight system has been incorporated.



Sony HX700


# Deep Black Panel

# Motionflow 200Hz

# CCFL backlight

# BRAVIA Engine 3

# BRAVIA Internet Video and DLNA

# HX700 will be available in February 2010

HX700 will be available in 40 and 46 inches called 40HX700 and 46HX700.

Suggested retail prices are 1350 and 1880 Euro


Cinematic HX900

HX900 is the flagship in the Cinematic series, with Monolithic design and 3D support (3D glasses and IR transmitter sold seperately).


Sony HX900


# OptiContrast Panel

# Motionflow PRO 200 Hz (PRO indicates scanning backlights)

# LEDs with local dimming

# 3D Ready

# Monolithic Design

# BRAVIA Engine 3

# BRAVIA Internet Video and DLNA

# HX900 will be available in June 2010


Sony HX900


HX900 will be available in 46 and 52 inches called 46HX900 and 52HX900. Prices are not yet known.


Cinematic HX800

HX800 is the step down from HX900 and will not include Monolithic design nor local dimming.


Sony HX800


# Deep Black Panel

# Motionflow Pro 200 Hz

# Edge LED

# 3D Ready

# BRAVIA Engine 3

# BRAVIA Internet Video and DLNA

# HX800 will be available in July 2010


HX800 will be available in 40 and 46 inches called 40HX800 and 46HX800.

Suggested retail prices are 1600 and 2000 Euro.
 

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Originally Posted by candjhuntley /forum/post/18277516


I found the following from flatpanelshd.com







Hope this helps - and i feel probably worth being included as it DOES include the HX701 and the features it has - for further discussion of comparison, it might be a good idea to look at this thread

Interesting that this table lists the EX500 as having the Bravia Engine 3. I had read elsewhere that it only had the BE2.
 

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I actually just made a post about this particular series before stumbling upon this thread - sleep deprivation is evil. I'm going to get the KDL-55HX701 from the Sony Replacement program for my old SXRD 60" XBR1. I'm quite excited to see what the set can do and how the PQ is on these displays.


Once I receive this set, then I'll report back with any tweaks and adjustments that I make with some calibrated settings. I'd love to hear from others out there that currently have this set, especially in regards to the picture quality, black levels, contrast, input lag, color reproduction, et cetera.


Thanks.
 

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[This was originally posted in the Official 2005 Sony KDSR-50/60XBR1 SXRD Owner's Thread and I thought it would be better suited here.]


Hi all,


My HX701 just arrived (at 6 PM - glad I took the afternoon off...)


It's gorgeous.


Unfortunately, I have to wait for my S.O. to get back from work so we can assemble the stand and put it in place, before I can tell you about the PQ (I dare not try this on my own with that much glass).


Here's what I can tell you so far:

- It's a black monolithic sheet of glass, with just a rim of the plastic case around the edges.

- The screen is very shiny, however it apparently has an anti-glare coating similar to what you would see on museum-grade picture frame glass.

- The USB Wireless LAN Adapter (UWA-BR100) is NOT included, as I had assumed from the online literature. So... I'll have to go get one of those...

- The remote is less cluttered than my XBR1 remote.

- The instruction manual is pretty thin. I was expecting more. However it seems to be touting the built-in "i-MANUAL". Does that make sense?


eieio: Once I get it up and running, I'll let ya know about the output volume.


Now pictures:





 

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Here's my initial impressions - keep in mind that I don't consider myself a serious AV aficionado by any stretch of the imagination and I haven't done any calibration.


After taking it out of the box, it requires two people to place it onto the stand and then it is screwed to the stand with the four included screws.


Power and minimal control buttons are on the right hand side. I/O is on the left hand side and left rear - 2 HDMI each. However, they didn't set the left side I/O panel in far enough as beefy HDMI cables may stick out a tad.


Upon initial power-on, it took a while to "boot" and get to the language screen. I actually had enough time to look in the manual to read what to expect. Further boots were fast - much faster than my XBR1.


The setup wizard had 22 steps, however I skipped most of them as I am not using the tuner (stupid Comcast) and I don't have internet access readily available (no nearby cable and USB Wireless not included).


The picture quality is fantastic, IMHO. The HD picture is very crisp and sharp, perhaps too sharp as I feel it overemphasizes the pixel interpolation of SD imagery. You can test the PQ with the included HD pictures, but I'm sure that's why Sony included them.


The color is also fantastic, but I'm coming off of an XBR1 with a yellow screen (bad Optical Block), so any reasonably correct color looks great.


The black level is pretty decent. The first Blu-Ray I popped in (via my PS3 over HDMI) was Bladerunner - Final Cut (my all-time favorite movie). During the initial credits, the black was solid and uniform. There was no discernable light bleed. However, I usually watch movies with the TV backlighted. With all the lights off, the black of the screen looked grey in comparison to the black frame. I don't recall the blacks being that grey on my XBR1, but then again, the XBR1 had that iris technology. As part of a whole image, the blacks look fine in comparison to the colors.


We followed Bladerunner with The Dark Knight and Ultraviolet (my guilty pleasure). Both Blu-Ray and both looked fantastic.


The skin tones on the newscasters this morning looked a bit "ashen", so I'll probably have to fiddle with the reds.


The audio leaves something to be desired. I believe the speakers are located in the bottom, facing downward. We had to crank the volume up to get a reasonable audio level above background noise. On the XBR1, it was usually a "10-12" or about 1/6th of the volume bar. On the HX701, it's "30-35", almost half the bar. I know it's relative, but I'm guessing Sony expects you to output the audio to a home theatre system. The volume out can be set to variable or fixed via the settings menu.


When switching channels and inputs, the info display is placed against a black bar that starts at the top and fades into the picture. The volume slider looks like a cool little blue comet.


It has a pseudo-PIP, in that you can display PC input alongside other inputs. At least, that's what one of the menus tell me.


Overall, I'm very pleased with this television.
 

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By the way, the glossy screen is not really a problem. Granted, the TV is not facing a window. With the TV backlighted and no other room lights on, I could see the power LED of my SO's laptop, but I was actively looking for it.
 

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cyberook, can I ask when you ordered your TV? I am waiting on mne and was only given "2 weeks from the day it ships" with no ship date. They charged my credit card on the 9th and I am hoping to have it sooner rather than later (the original time frame they gave me was 4-6 weeks but l;ater cut it down to 2).


The set looks nice though from the pictures.
 

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I "ordered" it March 5th. (It was a replacement for my faulty XBR1.)

I received it March 15th.

i was told that the tv will come from Sony's San Diego warehouse. May i ask where you're located, cyberook? i'm in nyc, so it's going to go all the way across the country
i'm concerned about the shaking/damage due to trucking it 3,000 miles, plus the further time delay.


are you located on the east or west coast, or somewhere in between?


i was informed that mine should "go out" tomorrow, whatever that means. i take it to mean leaving from San Diego warehouse.
 

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The black level is pretty decent. The first Blu-Ray I popped in (via my PS3 over HDMI) was Bladerunner - Final Cut (my all-time favorite movie). During the initial credits, the black was solid and uniform. There was no discernable light bleed. However, I usually watch movies with the TV backlighted. With all the lights off, the black of the screen looked grey in comparison to the black frame. I don't recall the blacks being that grey on my XBR1, but then again, the XBR1 had that iris technology. As part of a whole image, the blacks look fine in comparison to the colors.

This is what I feared with the CCFL version. I looked at the EX series in Costco the other day (they have quite a few models on display) and noticed a significant difference between the EX500 CCFL and EX700 LED lit TVs in terms of black level, contrast and color "pop". I'm thinking I should wait another month or two to see if Sony will offer a larger LED lit model. Hopefully a NX700/800 or HX800/900 or even the EX700 in a 60". Some of those won't be released until June/July. I doubt they'll ever offer the LX900 at a discount to us.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article....&id=1265975930
 

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Here's my initial impressions - keep in mind that I don't consider myself a serious AV aficionado by any stretch of the imagination and I haven't done any calibration.


After taking it out of the box, it requires two people to place it onto the stand and then it is screwed to the stand with the four included screws.


Power and minimal control buttons are on the right hand side. I/O is on the left hand side and left rear - 2 HDMI each. However, they didn't set the left side I/O panel in far enough as beefy HDMI cables may stick out a tad.


Upon initial power-on, it took a while to "boot" and get to the language screen. I actually had enough time to look in the manual to read what to expect. Further boots were fast - much faster than my XBR1.


The setup wizard had 22 steps, however I skipped most of them as I am not using the tuner (stupid Comcast) and I don't have internet access readily available (no nearby cable and USB Wireless not included).


The picture quality is fantastic, IMHO. The HD picture is very crisp and sharp, perhaps too sharp as I feel it overemphasizes the pixel interpolation of SD imagery. You can test the PQ with the included HD pictures, but I'm sure that's why Sony included them.


The color is also fantastic, but I'm coming off of an XBR1 with a yellow screen (bad Optical Block), so any reasonably correct color looks great.


The black level is pretty decent. The first Blu-Ray I popped in (via my PS3 over HDMI) was Bladerunner - Final Cut (my all-time favorite movie). During the initial credits, the black was solid and uniform. There was no discernable light bleed. However, I usually watch movies with the TV backlighted. With all the lights off, the black of the screen looked grey in comparison to the black frame. I don't recall the blacks being that grey on my XBR1, but then again, the XBR1 had that iris technology. As part of a whole image, the blacks look fine in comparison to the colors.


We followed Bladerunner with The Dark Knight and Ultraviolet (my guilty pleasure). Both Blu-Ray and both looked fantastic.


The skin tones on the newscasters this morning looked a bit "ashen", so I'll probably have to fiddle with the reds.


The audio leaves something to be desired. I believe the speakers are located in the bottom, facing downward. We had to crank the volume up to get a reasonable audio level above background noise. On the XBR1, it was usually a "10-12" or about 1/6th of the volume bar. On the HX701, it's "30-35", almost half the bar. I know it's relative, but I'm guessing Sony expects you to output the audio to a home theatre system. The volume out can be set to variable or fixed via the settings menu.


When switching channels and inputs, the info display is placed against a black bar that starts at the top and fades into the picture. The volume slider looks like a cool little blue comet.


It has a pseudo-PIP, in that you can display PC input alongside other inputs. At least, that's what one of the menus tell me.


Overall, I'm very pleased with this television.


Thanks for taking the time to leave some feedback, cyberook! I know it must be hard pulling yourself away from the new TV. Judging from your comments, the set sounds pretty good with some minor deficiencies. Hopefully you can tweak the picture to your liking to get a satisfactory overall picture. Did you turn off motion enhancer/cinemotion and have the PS3 set to for 1080p/24 output when you were watching Blade Runner? One of my favorite movies as well. Also, have you dialed down the sharpness and backlight yet, while cranking up the picture option? I'd be curious to hear the results.



Can't wait to get mine, and your synopsis has me even more excited. I was so happy to hear that the picture quality looks fantastic. I think with some more tweaking and playing around it will be even better. As far as the blacks go, hopefully the adjustments that I mentioned above will help in that area.
 
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