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Well we could have a serious contender here. I noticed that this full array version of the E series hasn't been available for quite awhile. I just checked Amazon and it's now available to ship for the awesome price of $1370 brand new.


If you you're looking for a large flat panel with smart features, and won't miss 3D, then this should really be on your shortlist.

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E650i-A2-65-0-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B00BIGDB7E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367300376&sr=1-1&keywords=vizio+e650i


I'm very interested to hear what some of the first owners have to say about it because I may return my current 70" Sharp set for a full array model, as the blacks and clouding (edge light uniformity) issues are a real bummer.
 

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Well it was probably silly of me to believe otherwise, but the TV is direct-lit without local dimming it would seem. There's no mention of local dimming on any of the product information. I suppose performance would still be similar to many edge-lit models?
 

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Originally Posted by dctrombly  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23261436


Well it was probably silly of me to believe otherwise, but the TV is direct-lit without local dimming it would seem. There's no mention of local dimming on any of the product information. I suppose performance would still be similar to many edge-lit models?

With Full Array wouldn't uniformity issues be less of an issue?
 

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(xpost from the other thread, didn't see this thread before)


Just bought one of these today as a replacement for an E601i-A3 that had the video loss problem.


First thoughts -- out of the box, this thing is THICK. Fully three times as thick as the E601i. Other than that, though, no negatives that I can see.


During daytime watching with the defaults -- first off the auto brightness is turned on by default and makes the screen looks completely washed out. Turning that off instantly brings the set into a reasonably watchable state of tune. With that, the image is much improved from the E601i. Significantly more vibrant and sharper, plus the backs seem much blacker (I noticed this seeing the side bars on an HD channel with an SD commercial).


Overall, I'm impressed so far. I'd like to hear other's opinions and/or see links to real reviews.


Side benefit -- same remote control commands as the E601i, so no reprogramming necessary.
 

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Along with the remote codes being the same, the E650i also has undocumented Picture-in-Picture / Side-by-Side, like the other models in the series. It's as easy as using the remote codes for the Vizio VF550M.
 

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Originally Posted by jdseymour  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23300931


Does this TV come with a generic web browser app? I didn't find anything on the Vizio site, but I may have missed it.


Also, does the Amazon app allow access to the free videos for Prime members?

I took a look and I don't think there is a browser. Amazon app does play free Prime videos.


Man, the threads for this TV are dead -- is nobody buying it? After a couple weeks, it's much better than the E601 it replaced.
 

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Too bad about the browser, but that's not a big surprise. It seems the trend is for each site to offer their own app, rather than have everybody use a generic browser.


Meanwhile, the price on Amazon just dropped by ~$70, so I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger...
 

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I bought the 65" from Costco the other day. So far, we are really enjoying the TV. The only annoying part is when watching anything with a fast moving object (golf ball, lacrosse, football, etc.) there is a blurring of the ball. I think I improved it a little by going into the settings, but it still seems to show up on occasion.


Right now I am running in the Vivid mode with most everything turned "Off" in the Advanced settings.


My main question is if anyone has some suggested calibration settings for the 65". I've found some on CNET but they are for the 60" and definitely do not apply the same to the 65".


Also I know some people have said to turn EVERYTHING "Off" in the advanced settings. It's hard to believe that all of that is useless, but is this what everyone is finding? A better picture with every single advanced setting "Off"?
 

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Pulled the trigger yesterday at Costco. It was the last day before the price went back up to $1349 from $1249.


First thought: The Ambient Light Sensor has to be OFF. Otherwise it kept darkening the screen


I watched Star Trek (2009) last night and it looked pretty good on Vivid with most of the ADVANCED settings left as they came. I didn't mess around too much with those yet.


One problem I noticed: The black horizontal bars show a good amount of light bleeding in from the edges on either side. No one else here or on Amazon reviews has mentioned that. I wonder if this one has a defective panel.

Anyone else have this problem?


I'll keep messing with it this week and if that doesn't go away I'll swap it out for another one at Costco.
 

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Originally Posted by MattC-703  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23386131


Pulled the trigger yesterday at Costco. It was the last day before the price went back up to $1349 from $1249.


First thought: The Ambient Light Sensor has to be OFF. Otherwise it kept darkening the screen


I watched Star Trek (2009) last night and it looked pretty good on Vivid with most of the ADVANCED settings left as they came. I didn't mess around too much with those yet.


One problem I noticed: The black horizontal bars show a good amount of light bleeding in from the edges on either side. No one else here or on Amazon reviews has mentioned that. I wonder if this one has a defective panel.

Anyone else have this problem?


I'll keep messing with it this week and if that doesn't go away I'll swap it out for another one at Costco.
Am I missing something here?  Is this set full-array back-lit or edge-lit?

What you are describing occurs with edge-lit panels.

Blooming or haloing or uneven lighting from back-lit.
 

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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23392025


Am I missing something here?  Is this set full-array back-lit or edge-lit?

What you are describing occurs with edge-lit panels.

Blooming or haloing or uneven lighting from back-lit.

It issuposedly full array, which is why I am wondering if I just ended up with a bad panel. The picture is great otherwise.
 

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Originally Posted by markdb77  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23391129


Can you post a picture of this?

I just bought one of these, but havnt set it up yet.


Please let me know how your swap turns out. Thanks

I will try to post a picture tomorrow. I'm really hoping I don't have to do a swap. Other than the light bleeding issue I am very pleased so far.
 

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 http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-reviews/vizio-e650i-a2-review/


DigitalTrends.com posted a review of the E0i series.


The specifically tested the 42-inch and listed the settings that they found worked well after using a Spyder4 calibrating device and THX calibration Blu-Ray disc.


Preferred Settings


Backlight: 75


Contrast: 69


Brightness: 49


Sharpness: 8


Color: 55


Tint: -2


Color Temperature – Normal


Advanced Settings


Noise Reduction – Low


MPEG NR – Low


Color Enhancement – Off


Adaptive Luma – Off


Film Mode – Off


Smart Dimming – Off


Ambient Light Sensor – Off


Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-reviews/vizio-e650i-a2-review/#ixzz2VLebFF4j

Follow us: @digitaltrends on Twitter | digitaltrendsftw on Facebook
 

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Originally Posted by dctrombly  /t/1470621/official-2013-vizio-e650i-a2-65-full-array-owners-thread#post_23261436


Well it was probably silly of me to believe otherwise, but the TV is direct-lit without local dimming it would seem. There's no mention of local dimming on any of the product information. I suppose performance would still be similar to many edge-lit models?

There is "Smart Dimming" - think it's Vizio's term for local dimming.
 

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What makes you say this is a full array back light? I don't see anything in the link above or on Vizio's specs that say it is. and Dynamic Contrast ratio is only 200,000:1 which is the worst of their TV's.
 
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