What kind of reflective screen is it? I have a 2012 vizio and it might as well be a mirror. is it glossy or matte or antireflective? for the 70p?
Alright! sorry for the slow delay to get to this. Apparently, I still need to work and can't just play with the new TV today
First, a disclaimer: I am by no means a super experienced when it comes to this sort of stuff. I like to think I know a good bit about TVs, but when it comes to taking good pictures and estimating input lag, I don't pretend to be a professional!
Below is an imgur album with some photos, mostly they are of the El Fuente Netflix sample (which streams in at 16000 kbps!), plus a few attempts at showing off the black levels and backlight bleed.
Nevermind... turns out I can't post links until I have 5 posts or more... so I will link the album in a bit
I apologize in advance for the quality (or lack thereof). I have a window in my living room and wasn't able to get it super dark.
There is still definitely still some very minor backlight bleed, but no extreme bloom. It is definitely better than most edge lit that I have seen, but I don't really have any experience with modern back lits for comparison. There is a some unevenness in the extreme corners (half an inch or so from the corner), but only really noticeable on the gray field or very bright scenes. Overall, seems pretty even to me!
One weird thing I observed, in a few picture modes (vivid and calibrated), when I was doing the gray field test (just used an image on my PC) I noticed that if I dragged my mouse cursor to the extreme right side, it would lighten up the whole display, which makes me think there may also be some edge lighting? Not quite sure, but it was curious.
Comparing the built in upscaling to my receiver, the built in upscaling is quite a bit better (probably not much of a surprise, receiver is a few years old now). Also found my receiver wouldn't pass 4k from my PC, so I have to hook it up directly to the TV.
I was able to fix the CEC and audio back to the receiver. The trick was to use HDMI port 1, which does the audio out back to the receiver, no other ports work. HDMI 5 is also a special port, being the only HDMI 2.0 port, but obviously still works fine with lesser HDMI devices.
A few unanswered questions:
SD content (SD channels over my TV) looked decent. Very similar to 480p youtube sized up to a large display. A bit blotchy, but nothing ridiculous, especially considering its 70"
Dark scenes (especially in 4k) look great to my eyes. No bloom as far as I can tell. I have noticed a few letter box commercials on a black background as I have been watching, they border is very crisp with no noticeable bleed into the background.
As far as input lag, I don't have any of the fancy equipment, but I may try hooking up my laptop to my asus pb287q (which has a known input lag of about 10ms) and seeing how far it is behind that. Best I can do to record though is 60fps, which means I will only really be able to tell if its less than 40ms. Before that, going to try and play some team fortress 2 and see how it feels. Probably won't bother with 4k, since I will only get 30fps anyway, but I am excited about 120hz at 1080p!
Hopefully that gives some good info. If you have anything else you want me to look at, let me know! Once again, I am not super experienced at taking pictures or exactly what to look for, so give me hints
I hope you are correct. That is almost exactly what my 2014 80" M looked like that has since been returned to Costco. I know they are very different sets (80"M vs. 70" P), but that black photo is eerily similar.I think the "clouding" in the black pic might have been part of the image itself. I don't believe that is normal.
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I debated not including that picture because it very much exaggerated the effect. There is also a window (with the blinds closed, but still pretty light) right across from the TV, which makes it a bit worse. I just tried again against a black screen and its pitch black. I tried taking a photo, but its not turning out. Now with it this dark, it is much easier to see the zones as I move the mouse across the screen. A bit more bloom than I originally thought, but still not bad at all.Black screen from the side uniformity doesn't look too good. I wonder if that is caused by the screen being compressed by the frame too tightly? What happens if you try loosening a few screws in the back just a little bit - that might help.
I debated not including that picture because it very much exaggerated the effect. There is also a window (with the blinds closed, but still pretty light) right across from the TV, which makes it a bit worse. I just tried again against a black screen and its pitch black. I tried taking a photo, but its not turning out. Now with it this dark, it is much easier to see the zones as I move the mouse across the screen. A bit more bloom than I originally thought, but still not bad at all.
Sorry for not keeping the camera on the same settings, I was doing this before dinner and family tasks, so I didn't have tons of time to get it completely right.
The driver reports it as a resolution in both linux and windows. I didn't have to force it, but I guess I am not sure its at 120 yet. Will try a custom resolution soon.Can it actually do 120hz custom resolution? Of the 2014 4k's only the seiki has so far, not the lg, Sammy 8550, or sony x850b will allow me to set a custom resolution above 60hz at 1080 via a gtx titan.
Only paper is a quick start, there is a digital manual in the OSD, but spec doesn't say anything about brightness. One thing I saw someone ask for is power consumption, 133.1 W.Did it come with a manual? Many of us are curious as to the brightness of the 70" P, so if you notice the spec, lease let us know.
Also, when you get a chance to view a widescreen movie in the dark, are the letterbox bars true black or are they near-black grey?
Are you concerned about future compatibility with this only being an 8bit chip TV? I don't hear much discussion about this...Only paper is a quick start, there is a digital manual in the OSD, but spec doesn't say anything about brightness. One thing I saw someone ask for is power consumption, 133.1 W.
Watching Skyfall on blu ray right now, the letterbox bars are black black. From what I can tell, there is a zone basically just for the letter box.
Interestingly, 120 did not work, but 119 did from the Nvidia control Panel. Guess I'll take it! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯The driver reports it as a resolution in both linux and windows. I didn't have to force it, but I guess I am not sure its at 120 yet. Will try a custom resolution soon.
Hmm, my apologies for not looking at the first post. I was only going off of another AVS forum that said only the reference series was 10 bit. Specifically post #28 on this one:Are you disputing the specs from the 1st post? What makes you think the P702ui-B3 is a 8 bit panel?