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Went to Sam's today. But they had no P series in stock.

I did look at the D650i-b2 though, and it's a VA panel.

The new Magnavox 55" is using a IPS Panel.

E320i forgot what B version though, had a IPS panel.

M49 IPS panel, M55 IPS Panel.

Everything else seemed to be VA in Vizio.

They didn't have a M65 there, or E65 for that matter. So, I couldn't test if they were IPS or not.

I didn't have much time though, had frozen things melting in my trunk and had to shop fast and go home. :)
The M652i-B2 has a VA panel, at least the one on display did as does the one I bought and am enjoying right now. :wink:
 

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The M652i-B2 has a VA panel, at least the one on display did as does the one I bought and am enjoying right now. :wink:
Well, that covers the D and M being VA panels. So, does that hold true for the P65 panel???....

I guess will just have to wait till someone gets one, and takes a look. :)
 

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I dont have a straight on picture, i can take one when I get home tonight and I'll post it later. I wouldnt even say it's subtle when viewing straight-on...it's almost non-existent. However, once you get outside of the ideal viewing angle (side to side as well as up and down) it becomes much more obvious. Also, remember that if you're just watching normal content, you wouldnt be able to see it even off-axis...I guess it's similar to the flashlight effect on edge-lit displays, but not nearly as bad.
The only time it was distracting during normal viewing was when I paused the movie, and the pause icon appeared in the letterbox, you could clearly see the dimming zone light up (we were watching the movie on the ground, so outside of the ideal viewing angle).
http://i.imgur.com/LSLGBRp.jpg
Ouch, Major ouch, Sheesh, Yipes. :eek:
Is this the way it is with all of these E's, M's & P's with local dimming??
 

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At this point 99.9% of what I and everyone else is watching on these televisions is 1080p and 720p upscaled--it looks great, crisper than on my old 1080p television. I'm using it right now as a computer monitor at 1080 res and it looks great doing that as well.
And you switched to the HDMI 5 input, right? Has the upscaling been handled the same way? Some others were complaining that it looked terrible or jaggy (that may have only been 1080i).
 

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I guess it's based on this TechRadar article from July 10,2014. If the SiL9679 chip is the only one available, the same will apply to all 4K TV's currently on the market (not only the Vizio P-Series).

Based on this article from c|net July 31, 2014
"The current crop of 4K TVs from Samsung, LG, Panasonic, and Sony, etc. list HDCP 2.2 compliance in their specifications."
the samsung only has HDCP2.2 on the mhl port, which does not support 4K 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 due to the inclusion of HDCP. The rest of the ports support full HDMI 2.0 @ 4:4:4, and has been confirmed by nvidia 970/980 users.
 

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Well, that covers the D and M being VA panels. So, does that hold true for the P65 panel???....

I guess will just have to wait till someone gets one, and takes a look. :)
Agree. The P65 seems to be the elusive one. I really wished I had a chance to see one before I pulled the trigger on the M65, but after following this P series thread for weeks I decided that the M would fit my needs for now.

From what I personally have seen, I prefer the flesh tones on the 65" better than those on the 60" and 70" Sharp panels.

I was able to compare the M652i-B2 head to head with a Sony KDL65W850B and was able the dial the M65 to produce a picture that was basically indistinguishable between the two. This was pretty remarkable (to me) as the Sony uses the Samsung S-PVA panel and this model has been regarded very highly.

So far I'm enjoying the M65 and hoping the honeymoon lasts a while. It will be interesting to see what the R65 brings to the party.
 

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I did with the Tears clip H265 with a mkv wrapper provided through the Torrent link given several posts ago. The 4K 60fps clip played on the Vizio P70 through the USB port from a thumb drive through the multimedia app.
That's great news! One note, its 24fps, not 60. How did it look? Did you download just the 30s clip or the whole movie?

The same video would not play through the Vizio multimedia app DLNA option linked to my media server. Also, almost all my mkv files on my server will not play through the the Vizio DLNA multimedia app but a few would (Groundhog Day!). What would happen on most was that they would start, play about 5 to 10 seconds and then display in a small box at the top of the screen and play the first few seconds over and over.
I wonder if that's a bandwidth issue. The clips I posted average 25mbps, which might be saturating a less-than-perfect WiFi connection?
 

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JStanton sent me 2 4K files, a mp4 and mkv that did work on a UB stock on my P70. Don't know much more then that about the files so I will let him speak to that. There was no sound but that could have been from the source to save space.
The ones I sent Eric were the same 30 second clips I posted torrent files for, both encoded with the same H.265 settings, just in different containers. And correct, neither had audio for space reasons.
 

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Eugene, I tried and put a few nice files on a USB (Ink Drops, Wildlife, Spring, and such) all in mp4, but they didn't play. Got "File not supported" message :(
For everyone, not just Z-Mad: If you have any clips with some sort of non-restrictive license (Creative Commons or full open source), send me the links and I'll see if I can diagnose and re-encode them specifically for these Vizios.

By any chance have you (or anyone else) downloaded the Tears of Steel I posted first (the full 12 minute movie with audio)? All these other successes seem to be just the 30s clips. I'd be great to get even a single confirmation of that before I start with Big Buck Bunny (the raw 4k PNG frames just finished downloading after 3 days!)

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My 70 inch P should finally be here today between 10-3.

Fingers crossed for no DOA/broken panels like it seems a view Amazon shoppers have gotten...
Keeping my fingers crossed for you too Marvin. Looking forward to your initial review as I also own the ES8000

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That's great news! One note, its 24fps, not 60. How did it look? Did you download just the 30s clip or the whole movie?



I wonder if that's a bandwidth issue. The clips I posted average 25mbps, which might be saturating a less-than-perfect WiFi connection?
It looked great and it was the whole movie. Also, I am hooked up by gigabyte ethernet for the tv and for the WD Live through a gigabyte switch. I have 130 MB/s download with Comcast!
 

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For everyone, not just Z-Mad: If you have any clips with some sort of non-restrictive license (Creative Commons or full open source), send me the links and I'll see if I can diagnose and re-encode them specifically for these Vizios.

By any chance have you (or anyone else) downloaded the Tears of Steel I posted first (the full 12 minute movie with audio)? All these other successes seem to be just the 30s clips. I'd be great to get even a single confirmation of that before I start with Big Buck Bunny (the raw 4k PNG frames just finished downloading after 3 days!)

Thanks,
Jim
The full movie worked great with sound through a thumb drive on my P70. Edit: By the way, since I have an optical connection back to my home theater receiver the sound was great. I have 7.2 and don't know what the clip was encoded into but it sounded awesome. The P70 exports the sound from the usb port through the optical great.
 

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I was in best buy today and they didn't have vizio p series yet. One sale guy said he was kinda glad. He said it will be harder to sell those other 4k sets with that price difference. They pushed Sony 4k tvs pretty hard.
I did get to see the lg OLED tv there too. The contrast of that tv beat everything on the sales floor plus viewing angle.
Harder to sell means price cut now or get trampled on by the VIZIO competition.
 

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Edit: By the way, since I have an optical connection back to my home theater receiver the sound was great. I have 7.2 and don't know what the clip was encoded into but it sounded awesome. The P70 exports the sound from the usb port through the optical great.
The audio was encoded as Dolby Digital 5.1 (AC3), 48 kHz sample rate at 448kbps from the lossless FLAC original.

Big shout out to the Blender Foundation for all their work making these movies and providing the uncompressed originals!
 

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My 70 inch P should finally be here today between 10-3.

Fingers crossed for no DOA/broken panels like it seems a view Amazon shoppers have gotten...
If it makes you feel better, my P70 from Best Buy was defect free including no light bleed or screen uniformity issues. Someone will be able to get a good deal on an open box already!
 

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I was in best buy today and they didn't have vizio p series yet. One sale guy said he was kinda glad. He said it will be harder to sell those other 4k sets with that price difference. They pushed Sony 4k tvs pretty hard.
I did get to see the lg OLED tv there too. The contrast of that tv beat everything on the sales floor plus viewing angle.
Don't forget: OLED is susceptible to burn in and does deteriorate over time. Maybe someday there will be an OLED that doesn't exhibit these characteristics but not yet.
 

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I'm anxiously awaiting my p55 from Amazon next week. On this thread, however, it seems like everyone with the 55 has had some defect with their panel. There also have been several people who reported their p series from Amazon was DOJ. I'm curious, are there people who got the 55 and/or ordered from Amazon and not had a defective panel? Also, my last real TV was a fuji p50 (circa 2003). I see lots on how people coming from a VT60 may be disappointed. I'm curious how the fuji compares.
 
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