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Just had my 78KS9800 TV delivered about 2 hours ago. Got it set up and everything seems to work OK. Will do some testing tonight since I had to get back to the office. I've included some quick photos and will try to get some more tonight or tomorrow. Will also do some calibration to get the picture looking better. I've included the Samsung Website and a couple of reviews of the European version of the KS9800.


Samsung Website:
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN78KS9800FXZA

Review by John Archer of the European version UES65KS9500
http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue65ks9500-review

AVF Forum Review of the UESKS9500
https://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ks9500-ue65ks9500-uhd-4k-tv-review.12673

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Congratz on the beast ...I imagined 78 looking a lot bigger then on those pics, backlight, contrast and sharpness seams way over the line, and on already (too)bright tv. I am using contrast 90, bl 8 and sharpness on 20 max on my sammy. I would be blind watching a tv at night on 13 bckl :eek:
 

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Just had my 78KS9800 TV delivered about 2 hours ago. Got it set up and everything seems to work OK. Will do some testing tonight since I had to get back to the office. I've included some quick photos and will try to get some more tonight or tomorrow. Will also do some calibration to get the picture looking better. I've included the Samsung Website and a couple of reviews of the European version of the KS9800.


Samsung Website:
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN78KS9800FXZA

Review by John Archer of the European version UES65KS9500
http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue65ks9500-review

AVF Forum Review of the UESKS9500
https://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ks9500-ue65ks9500-uhd-4k-tv-review.12673
Subscribed! Very interested in your thoughts on the KS9800. As I said in the other thread I saw this at Best Buy and I think it's the finest LCD I've ever seen. I'm interested in the 65" but want to see one in person before purchasing, so I may have to wait awhile for them to arrive in local stores. Curious what you think of off angle viewing. (My perception was that it has improved). I saw no light bleed, thought the set was brighter as well as the black levels being better than previous models. I would have liked to have seen it in the magnolia area under better lighting.
 

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Congratz on the beast ...I imagined 78 looking a lot bigger then on those pics, backlight, contrast and sharpness seams way over the line, and on already (too)bright tv. I am using contrast 90, bl 8 and sharpness on 20 max on my sammy. I would be blind watching a tv at night on 13 bckl :eek:
Thanks. Agree on the settings. I just took the pictures with the default settings and didn't like them either. I use movie mode on my 78HU9000 with backlight of 9, contrast of 92, brightness 45, sharpness of 20 sometime 0. My 78HU9000 is the same size. Compared to a 65" it's much bigger. Hopefully I will get to calibrate it tonight although on the HU9000 forum it was recommended to let the TV break in for 100 hours, some said 500 hours if I remember correctly. I definitely have to adjust these settings right now. Unfortunately, I had to go back to work and couldn't check it out more. They only give you one remote which is crap. Will take some pictures from my k8500 if I get a chance.
 

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Hi. Nice set. Could you give some point of reference to see how big it is?
Settings which german testers from Video Magazin found as optimal for 65KS9590 / US 9800

Picture Mode: Film
Backlight: 20
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 12
Colour: 48
RGB Offset: -4, 0, 4
RGB - Gain: 2, 0, 1
Gamma: -2
Smart LED: Low

You could try if it would be optimal on your set
 

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very interested to hear thoughts on samsungs new feature called "HDR+" which converts SDR material into and "HDR-like" picture! including with movies AND sports!
I am interested to see if HDR+ actually works, too or if it's just hype. If I'm not mistaken, in one of the reviews I posted, they said that the UES65KS9500 did a good job of converting the SDR material to a "HDR-like" picture. Hopefully, I'll get to that tonight. I have to get the picture settings straight first.
 
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I am interested to see if HDR+ actually works, too or if it's just hype. If I'm not mistaken, in one of the reviews I posted, they said that the UES65KS9500 did a good job of converting the SDR material to a "HDR-like" picture. Hopefully, I'll get to that tonight. I have to get the picture settings straight first.


In the avforums review, Steve Withers was pretty impressed by it. Also if you watched the video posted in the other k9800 thread, they did some before and afters and again I though it looked like a decent improvement so I'm definitely interested to hear your guys thoughts on it.
 

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Subscribed! Very interested in your thoughts on the KS9800. As I said in the other thread I saw this at Best Buy and I think it's the finest LCD I've ever seen. I'm interested in the 65" but want to see one in person before purchasing, so I may have to wait awhile for them to arrive in local stores. Curious what you think of off angle viewing. (My perception was that it has improved). I saw no light bleed, thought the set was brighter as well as the black levels being better than previous models. I would have liked to have seen it in the magnolia area under better lighting.
What you saw in Best Buy was in demo mode which was HDR and looked phenomenal even in the bright lights. I had the Samsung rep in Best Buy hook up the K8500 to the KS9800 and watched Life of Pi and the Martian. The picture was unbelievably sharp with deep colors and that was with no adjusting of the settings. Blacks were "inky" - a well used phrase in the Samsung SEK3500 Evolution Kit thread. Got some work ahead of me tonight.
 
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Congrats on the new display. That MothEye/Ultra Black filter seems to be doing a nice job. Lots of light in the room yet little glare, great contrast and deep blacks. Wish they made a flat version at a reasonable price, but compared to the 77G6 OLED I guess its a steal. Look forward to more testing and pics.
 

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Congrats on the new display. That MothEye/Ultra Black filter seems to be doing a nice job. Lots of light in the room yet little glare, great contrast and deep blacks. Wish they made a flat version at a reasonable price, but compared to the 77G6 OLED I guess its a steal. Look forward to more testing and pics.
Thanks. This is my second curve and to be honest when I'm watching, I don't even notice the curve. I actually like it.
 

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When you get some time can you comment on the local dimming and halos. And also how well the Black Frame Insertion works for motion handling. Don't know if it is turned on by default, but it is under the LED Clear Motion setting. Usually, BFI causes slight dimming and sometimes flicker, buy this display is insanely bright at around 1473 nits peak/715 nits full screen and fast so it should not be a problem.
 

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I am willing to bet that the KS9800 will be able to give OLED a run for its money this year. It may not win but I believe it will be very close. However, I do wish there was a flat version of it. I just can't bring myself to liking curved screens that aren't movie Theater size.
 

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I am willing to bet that the KS9800 will be able to give OLED a run for its money this year. It may not win but I believe it will be very close. However, I do wish there was a flat version of it. I just can't bring myself to liking curved screens that aren't movie Theater size.
Seems there are quite a few people on the forum that share your sentiment. I actually like the curved screen design. My only objection would be a wall mounted setup. Given that all 3 KS9800 units are curved, Samsung obviously feels the market for curved TV's is poised for further growth.
 

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In the avforums review, Steve Withers was pretty impressed by it. Also if you watched the video posted in the other k9800 thread, they did some before and afters and again I though it looked like a decent improvement so I'm definitely interested to hear your guys thoughts on it.
After getting the set calibrated in Movie mode, I took a couple of photos to demonstrate HDR+. Forgive me if the pictures aren't too good, but I'm using my Galaxy S6 Edge+ to shoot them. I found that the colors were deeper and the picture was brighter. Let me know what you think. First picture is SDR, second is HDR+.
 

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Seems there are quite a few people on the forum that share your sentiment. I actually like the curved screen design. My only objection would be a wall mounted setup. Given that all 3 KS9800 units are curved, Samsung obviously feels the market for curved TV's is poised for further growth.
I honestly think that it is more like Samsung is praying that the market for curved TV's is poised for further growth. They have a lot riding on curved TVs because there aren’t many manufactures still doing it. It is a significant thing that differentiates them from other manufactures. However, there is a growing segment that is in the #NeverCurved movement.

It is foolish for them to ignore that market segment. They could produce a flat display with the features of the KS9800 and charge MORE for it than the curved counterpart and some people would buy it.
 

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Just had my 78KS9800 TV delivered about 2 hours ago. Got it set up and everything seems to work OK. Will do some testing tonight since I had to get back to the office. I've included some quick photos and will try to get some more tonight or tomorrow. Will also do some calibration to get the picture looking better. I've included the Samsung Website and a couple of reviews of the European version of the KS9800.
Great pics. The pic with real people....is the white (light reflection) on the man's forehead really that bright? I'm new to this LED business....my last major purchase was a 10 year old panny 50" plasma.
 

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So they are putting ads in the settings menu? Can they be disabled or removed?
Haven't checked that out yet. I'll put it on the list.
 
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