Apparently, the only reason Vizio hasn't made an 80" P yet, and why there is no 80" 2017 M, is due to them not being able to find a suitable WCG panel in that size. Got that straight from Matt @ Vizio.Cool thanks, I'll let you know. Got this TV refurbed for 1k, figure it'll hold me over to see what happens in the 75-80" range this year, or maybe early next year. If Vizio makes an 80" P series, sold! Love the LG OLEDs but so pricey for sizes.