Thanks for the reply. I'm most likely going to go for the SR-8015. BTW, I recently heard the SR-8015 and the Denon X6700H have some issue with 4k/120 hz refresh rates, so it won't work properly with the latest Sony PS5 and XBOX X game consoles at this setting. Any thoughts on this?I faced the same dilemma. In the end I went with the 8015 and don’t regret it one bit. I’m totally blown away by music and movies and I’m coming from a SR-7010. I don’t care about 8k either yet, however who knows what the future holds and at least I’m future proof. The 8015 measured better as a preamp than the 8012. Also according to some that have heard both, the 8015 sounds even better than the already dynamic sounding 8012. Don’t know what great deals you’re seeing the 8012’s for, but I’m still seeing $2499 new. If you search around these forums you can find an authorized dealer like I did who can get you a nicely discounted 8015 for not much more. The cost difference to me was peanuts on a receiver I plan on keeping at least 10 years.