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70"+ LCD panels mark significant next step in the development of LCD technology taking place in 2011. LCD is now the king of size and jumps over plasma. This is amazing if one remembers only a couple of years ago many people were convinced LCD will be limited to small/medium sizes and plasma will exclusively rule the big part of the spectrum.


Equally significant is the fact that no less than four companies announced 70"+ products for 2011. This guarantees healthy competition which should help to bring prices to reasonably high level, affordable for high-end masses.


The goal of this thread is to collect all relevant information concerning the 70"+ PRODUCTS (no prototypes/demos) under one roof.


What is known at the start there are five 70"+ models likely to appear in 2011 with some of the specs given:

70" Sharp model AQUOS Quattron LC-70LE732U - full local dimming, non-3D, available 04/11, pics show
70" Sharp model AQUOS Quattron LC-70LE935U - full local dimming, 3D, available summer 2011, Sharp rep confirming price about $5K

72" LG model LZ9700 - full local dimming, 3D, available May/June/11

75" Samsung model 75D9500 - very thin with side edge LED backlight, 3D, available H2/11(? - according to some accounts there are no production plans for this set in 2011)

71" Vizio model XVT3D71OCM - cinema display 21:9, 2560x1080 res, full local dimming, 3D with passive glasses, availability 2011


A common factor for the 70"+ crop is full local dimming LED (with the exception of Samsung) and 3D support. What will be exciting to see is the PQ/3D performance of these sets & price levels.


An interesting question is if the 70"+ panels are in fact not too big for watching broadcast HDTV in the living room conditions as their size magnifies compression artefacts. Obviously 70"+ Blue Rays should be magnificent and 3D orgasmic - if well implemented.
 

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Hey irkuck


Thanks for creating this thread,,, great idea.


I saw the 70+ panels at CES and they were impressive,,, the 84" LG rocked,,, the LG 72" and Vizio 71" are the one's Im waiting to hear price's for.


I totally missed the 70" Sharp,, musta walked right by it,, bummer.


Cheers

Davyo
 

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One of two lines of 70-inch class models that Sharp will introduce in 2011, the LC-70LE732U marks the pinnacle of Sharp's LCD manufacturing prowess


I don't see anywhere Sharp said 70LE732U is not 3D
 

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One of two lines of 70-inch class models that Sharp will introduce in 2011, the LC-70LE732U marks the pinnacle of Sharp's LCD manufacturing prowess


I don't see anywhere Sharp said 70LE732U is not 3D
I believe the LE935U is the 3D model for Sharp per UltimateAVMag below: .

"Sharp unveiled a new 70-incher in its Quattron line, which adds yellow subpixels to the normal red, green, and blue. The LC-70LE935 uses LED backlighting with local dimming and offers online content and 3D capabilities, while the LC-70LE732 omits 3D. In all, Sharp will introduce five new lines with screen sizes up to 70 inches and six lines with sizes up to 60 inches in 2011, and all will have WiFi connectivity."
 

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Hey irkuck


Thanks for creating this thread,,, great idea.

Thanks and you are cordially welcomed to contribute to this thread


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Originally Posted by davyo /forum/post/19809506


I saw the 70+ panels at CES and they were impressive,,, the 84" LG rocked,,, the LG 72" and Vizio 71" are the one's Im waiting to hear price's for.

I totally missed the 70" Sharp,, musta walked right by it,, bummer.

Cheers

Davyo

But please, let's not start about the 84". This is a prototype and I think it is more constructive to talk about real products. There will be thread about 80"+/4K products sometime in the future
 

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I believe the LE935U is the 3D model for Sharp per UltimateAVMag below: .

"Sharp unveiled a new 70-incher in its Quattron line, which adds yellow subpixels to the normal red, green, and blue. The LC-70LE935 uses LED backlighting with local dimming and offers online content and 3D capabilities, while the LC-70LE732 omits 3D. In all, Sharp will introduce five new lines with screen sizes up to 70 inches and six lines with sizes up to 60 inches in 2011, and all will have WiFi connectivity."

Thanks westadouble69 for bringing this up
. The initial message is corrected accordingly.
 

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That 75" Samsung is just design marvel, just as thin as C9000-series (8mm)?

You can see its thinness in the pic.
 

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Please note updated information about the Vizio 71" in the starting message of this thread. In the link Vizio provides leaflet with full information about the set. This makes impression they have product ready to launch.
 

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that 75 inch Samsung is going to cost a TRUCK LOAD of money

Sounds pessimistic but it does not need to be so. From the start there will be quite a competition in the 70"+ class and pressure from the 65" (potential 70" buyers will be tempted to set on 65"). So it seems reasonable to think that competition will keep the prices in the 4-digit range which is just a bag of money
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theres alot of leeway in the four digit range. if PQ is good I can see paying 5k for the samsung, however, if its 8-9k, not too sure how many people will actually buy that.
 

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I could've sworn that Sharp said the low-end 70-inch would be full array backlit (LED) but not locally dimmed. In fact, that and the 120Hz (along with the 3-D) were listed as the differences to me. I'd be surprised if it's locally dimmed. And with a $3300 MAP, I'd be surprised if it matters as everyone they make will get sold.


For what it's worth (and I have a decent track record here), the LG will be hard to find all year, but if you really want one -- not sure why you would, it's obese by current LCD standards and it didn't look nearly as good as LG's own 55 -- you should be able to buy one eventually. The 75-inch Samsung will not be purchasable this year, I feel. It was more of a demo than a product. Keep in mind Samsung barely produced a few thousand 65s in 2010. And, yes, the 75-inch Samsung will probably list for $12,000 or so if they even have a retail SKU they can deliver on.


To me, Sharp is where it's at for gigantic flat screens in 2011. And if they fail, expect to see Sharp slowly disappear from the TV market (in the US at least). I sincerely hope they sell tens of thousands, however, so long as you can switch off the Star Trek logo on the TV. (Are they going overboard with Trek stuff between Sulu and the "chevron" on the bezel??)


FWIW, I have no real opinion on Vizio's shipping, but I will say the market itself for a cinema-wide LCD is small, so Vizio is presumably not even trying for mass quantities.
 

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Hoping that vizio will release this 71 inch set (no more vapor-wear like last years 72" set). Would expect the price target to be $4K-$5K based on other vizio sets (namely the 65" which is going for $3500 or less). At that price point you can bet I'll be at the front of the line for it.
 

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theres alot of leeway in the four digit range. if PQ is good I can see paying 5k for the samsung, however, if its 8-9k, not too sure how many people will actually buy that.

5K for 75"? High-end 65 inchers approach this level. On the other hand anybody asking 5-digit for 70"+ will not sell due to the competitors sets in the 4-digit. There is huge psychological barrier between the 4- and 5- digit price range. So the 70"+ sets are destined to 4-digit but Samsung

may occupy the top.


Also, those who claim Samsung 75" is vaporware are in error. That would be the case if Samsung was the only potential manufacturer in the 70"+ range. But with plenty of competitors kicking in the back Samsung has to be present in this market this year, they have Number 1 Ego. Different question is the production numbers and availability but at least they will have to announce sales and the set will show up in shops somewhere sometimes.
 

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With so many 70"+ screens samsung should deliever their 75" to us!


I hope that Vizio 71", 21:9 launches in Europe! I would like a large TV, but have the effect that movies presented in 21:9 is then larger than normal TV programs in 16:9.


I saw a demo of passive 3d on a JVC a few years back and it looked awesome tbh, so I have high hopes for the Vizio in regards to PQ 2D/3D.


Any prices on the sharp TVs yet?
 
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