[cybrsage]



Quote:
Originally Posted by odditory /forum/post/14730693


Oh yes, you can be sure!

A little card called the Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD, that they've claimed will ship in October.


Whether or not it actually ships in October doesn't matter - sooner or later it will come out which means time is running out for Asus to realize any benefit of being first to market - they better get their act together.

http://www.auzentech.com/site/compan....php#combocard

Is that card anything like the daughter card Auzentech announced last year?

 

[MickeyDora]



Quote:
Originally Posted by magnusr /forum/post/14730956


Asus only seems to support bitstreaming in arcsoft.

The Auzen will only support bitstreaming in PowerDVD. That is the clutch with these cards. They only work with the application that they were developed for.


So its a choice between two evils. TMT or PowerDVD.

 

[fronn]



Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB (E-Work) /forum/post/14724828


First of all I do have Xonar already therefore it is not matter of "what was said anywhere" but I have my own experience.

As I wrote earlier the overbright picture is coming from Xonar since the very first moment I installed it into my PC and connected it to my LCD. In XP Pro SP3 (the only system I tried) it happened even before I installed Splendid drivers (I used only beta drivers / software from the Asus website). I though OK once I install Splendid I will turn it off. However to my big surprise I realised it was NOT turned on at all!

And why do I think it is happening regardless drivers / software? Because again as I wrote already before the picture is overbright even in motherboard's BIOS / during booting sequence and these have nothing to do with Xonar drivers at all! It is simply overbright permanently!

Anyone who's done work on hardware/software on a low level can tell you that the actions of a device when booted up aren't necessarily going to be the final actions -- just depends on things in the circuit/chip design are defaulted. Just because it affects things by default doesn't mean it has to. With the problems the card currently has in drivers/software it could easily be that the drivers/software aren't turning it off properly and that it's on by default (which means it'll be bright upon boot up but once windows starts it'll turn it off, when properly fixed).


I'm not saying there is patently a way to turn it off, merely that you should stop spreading "experience" as fact, as nothing you've provided means what you think it means.

 

[yamahaSHO]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyDora /forum/post/14731080


The Auzen will only support bitstreaming in PowerDVD. That is the clutch with these cards. They only work with the application that they were developed for.


So its a choice between two evils. TMT or PowerDVD.

That really sux.

 

[Tolstoi]



Quote:
Originally Posted by magnusr /forum/post/14730956


Im waiting for the Auzen for several reasons. Xonar Hdav is in shops here now.


- I dont want the extremly expensive asus since i just need bitstreaming.

- I dont want asus brighter screen.. (some hardware firmware bug here)

- Asus only seems to support bitstreaming in arcsoft.

For peoples who wants only bitstreaming the solution is not an audio card but a video card that support PAP.

 

[3925]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolstoi /forum/post/14731643


For peoples who wants only bitstreaming the solution is not an audio card but a video card that support PAP.

Um, could you list those please? Include any released ones and any planned/announced ones.


(I'm guessing crickets will now follow, since there aren't any.)

 

[3925]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Digi247 /forum/post/14723908


My only main quibble at present is the lack of Vista Bitstreaming and the loss of 24hz resolution when these are solved i shall be very happy.

"Only quibble" is that it doesn't support bitstreaming or 24p? Are you serious? That's all this card is good for. If it doesn't support those two things at a minimum, then it's useless. I'm shocked to hear you say this is a minor issue - it's the single most important set of features.

Quote:
This is easily fixed by re-adjusting your Plasma,LCD,Projector settings annoying at first but when calibrated again is fine.

Again, are you serious? I should adjust my display to compensate for an oversaturated video output of one device? What about all the other devices that are connected to the same display?


That's just rediculous. You must work for Asus or something.


This has been a disaster of a product release, plain and simple. At a minimum, they lost a lot of momentum for product sales, where people were willing to buy it right away, and will now wait into next year or later, and even compare to their competitor. That's a massive misstep by Asus that will cost them a substantial amount of revenue. Then you add to that people who now have a sour taste in their mouth for Asus who will avoid other Asus products, and the expense grows.


Don't underestimate the impact of screwing up in front of the early adopter community.

 

[jeffreydeng]

I was waiting for HDAV but now I need to reconsider what I really need from both functionality and cost perspective. AMD 4550/4650 will be released soon and only cost $49-$59. It can output 7.1 LPCM like 4850/4870 is doing. Yes, the audio will be downsampled but from many post here it doesn't seem to me that I can tell the difference between 96/24 and 48/16.

 

[jojoxl]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyDora /forum/post/14731080


The Auzen will only support bitstreaming in PowerDVD. That is the clutch with these cards. They only work with the application that they were developed for.


So its a choice between two evils. TMT or PowerDVD.

You can blame Microsoft for that. If they wouldn't have half assed PAP support in Vista, any card would have worked with any player.

 

[lifespeed]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolstoi /forum/post/14731643


For peoples who wants only bitstreaming the solution is not an audio card but a video card that support PAP.

This is correct, in theory. If your desire is to output the bits to your receiver you don't need a soundcard to actually DO anything other than provide an immaculate reception for the Sacred Audio Path.


But AbMagFab is right, I don't know of such a product right now. Doubtless Nvidia and ATI are working on it. And if you are willing to wait that is probably the right course of action. One less card in the HTPC is a great thing.

 

[myAV]



Quote:
Originally Posted by odditory /forum/post/14730693


Oh yes, you can be sure!

A little card called the Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD, that they've claimed will ship in October.


Whether or not it actually ships in October doesn't matter - sooner or later it will come out which means time is running out for Asus to realize any benefit of being first to market - they better get their act together.

http://www.auzentech.com/site/compan....php#combocard

Do you know Asus is testing another HDMI audio only card to be released in line with Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD? Fingers crossed.

 

[Smitty2k1]



Quote:
Originally Posted by AbMagFab /forum/post/14732025


"Only quibble" is that it doesn't support bitstreaming or 24p? Are you serious? That's all this card is good for. If it doesn't support those two things at a minimum, then it's useless. I'm shocked to hear you say this is a minor issue - it's the single most important set of features..

24hz only matters if you have a 120hz tv, correct?

 

[Domenic]

Paul,


To me the entire premise of this card in the first place was to NOT down sample anything and especially through the analog outputs (seems to be the only reason for the daughter card in the first place).


I need a scorecard to keep up with what Asus has promised and what has been tested with the card so far with what looks like beta or even alpha versions of the drivers and software bundle. Do we know if Asus promises non down sampled analog out? Is it stated on the box, in the manual? I hope the answer is yes and we are just in the midst of ironing out software issues.


DOM

 

[iansilv]

no- it matters for overall picture quality. 24p is the native rate of film, so you do not have to translate outside of the disk if your display can take 24p input natively and display it as a multiple of 24.


Someone clarify what i just wrote...

 

[yamahaSHO]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolstoi /forum/post/14731643


For peoples who wants only bitstreaming the solution is not an audio card but a video card that support PAP.

That's ALL I want.

 

[hlkc]



Quote:
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO /forum/post/14733334


That's ALL I want.

Same here but what choice do we have?

 

[yamahaSHO]



Quote:
Originally Posted by hlkc /forum/post/14733431


Same here but what choice do we have?

Wait and complain.

 

[nephster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Domenic /forum/post/14733210


Do we know if Asus promises non down sampled analog out? Is it stated on the box, in the manual? I hope the answer is yes and we are just in the midst of ironing out software issues.


DOM

From the TMT preview notes on the Asus website:

"LPCM from Blu-ray Disc for analog and S/PDIF output is limited to 48KHz at this version (Lossless LPCM feature with AACS compliance will be updated soon)"

 

[3925]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty2k1 /forum/post/14733180


24hz only matters if you have a 120hz tv, correct?

No, 24p matters if you have a TV that supports 24p, which most mid- through high-end TV's sold in the last 18-24+ months support. Most BD (and HDDVD) is native 24p, which is why 24p is so important. Otherwise you get annoying judder as the player/TV fills in the missing frames.

 

[AngelEyes]

I just did a few brief tests and can confirm "JohnnyB's" observations that the HDAV does adjust the image brightness in it's default settings.


I took some screen shots but my camera is uber-crap and you just can't tell from the photos.


A simple example would be the standard tooltip type pop-up you get in XP from the main toolbar, it is a very faint cream colour using my Displays factory settings (which a re abit bright anyway). Placing the HDAV in the loop the same colour appears white.


When I use the calibrated display settings the differences are more subtle but it is definately affecting the image.


I certainly hope this is something that can be fixed with new drivers or this is going back to Asus.

Adam