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In this thread you will find a guided solution to how to properly calibrate the vizio P series tvs. In an effort to keep things clean and tidy please limit all talk to calibration information only. When posting the calibration workflow it would be really helpful if you identify which tv you are calibrating. Also I am going to reserve a few spots on the first page to link all of the calibration workflows such that they are easy to find.

If you have come across this thread by mistake and are looking for technical questions about the P series and not calibration help please refer to the link to the P series thread: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1689258-official-2014-vizio-p-series-owner-s-thread.html
 

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Please test all calibrations to find the set that looks the best to you. Enjoy!!!!

Calibration settings for P702-ui:
- Firmware version 1.2.23-UHD:
Googer P70 calibration - Night http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-52.html#post36078546
Googer P70 calibration - Day http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-52.html#post36078682
Superkyle P70 calibration - Night http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-55.html#post36169258
Superkyle P70 calibration - Day http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-56.html#post36263090
Mavinwow P70 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-57.html#post36329522

Calibration settings for P652-ui:
- Firmware version 1.2.23-UHD:
beardontwalk123 P65 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-50.html#post35997450
Mike-SC P65 Calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-50.html#post35971386



Calibration settings for P702-ui:
-Firmware version 1.1.14:
Googer P70 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-31.html#post31288730
Superkyle P70 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-31.html#post31286562
Fafrd P70 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-30.html#post31249330
Firmware 1.0.4.1:
Googer P70 calibration for a friends Tv - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-31.html#post31288842

Calibration settings for P652ui-B2:
-Firmware version 1.1.14 no changes to firmware 1.0.0:

Farrow099 P65 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...libration-vizio-p-series-24.html#post30761193

Calibration settings for P602ui-B3:
Firmware 1.1.14:

No settings found
Firmware 1.0.0:
Still looking for Buzz's settings

Calibration settings for P552ui-B2:
Firmware 1.1.16:

No settings updated
Firmware 1.0.0:
Buzzard767 calibration settings and other information - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...zio-p-series-owner-s-thread.html#post27491506

Calibration settings for the P502ui-B1 120hz version:
Firmware 1.1.16:

No settings have been updated yet
Firmware 1.0.0:
pisymbol P50 calibration - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...-calibration-vizio-p-series.html#post28300986

Various information provided by Buzzard comparing the P602ui-B3 to a 65VT60 and F8500 as well as grey scale and more!

Calibrations of various panels:

P60 side by side with the Panasonic 65VT60 plasma here
P60 side by side with the Samsung F8500 plasma - here and here
P60 side by side with a Samsung 55F8000 - here and here
P60 (maybe P70) easy setup to alleviate reddish flesh tones here
P60 Grayscale Calibration Workflow - here
P60 input lag when the signal is processed through an eeColor Processor - here No increased lag.
P60 Native Contrast - here
The strange thin vertical line on the right edge of the screen - here.







3D LUT Calibration and how it compares to internal controls only
 

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P60 Calibration

The P60 has some Grayscale anomalies and additionally has a skewed (away from Red) native color gamut. The Gamut problem is similar in the P70 and possibly the P50 as well. They all share Sharp VA panels.

Grayscale Calibration

Before I get into white balance calibration throughout the luminance scale I want to warn about some "triggers" I found. You probably wouldn't be adjusting in the following ranges but if you do, here's what happens. In the 11 point White Balance module the color temperature will jump to VERY Blue (and increases luminance by about 10 Foot Lamberts) when increasing 100% from Red 11 to 12, Green 15 to 16, and Blue 8 to 9. The same thing occurs at 5% when increasing Red from 26 to 27. The other, and more important trigger for practical purposes, is when switching from dimming OFF to ON, 100% White goes very Bluish. This does not happen from 90% down to 5%.

Grayscale workflow:

Assumption - dimming will be turned ON for normal viewing

100% must be calibrated with dimming ON because it skews the balance. Do not calibrate 100% with dimming OFF. Set the back light to meet your luminance requirement.

5 - 90% is calibrated with dimming OFF and the back light must be lowered (based on 100% readings) to meet the same luminance requirement. I use the ChromaPure Gamma module where I can watch Gamma and Grayscale simultaneously.


In the ChromaPure Gamma module (figure it out for your software):

1. Before running the 11 point, do the 2 point (offsets and gain) using 100% with dimming on and 30% with dimming off. Because of the 100% dimming ON pop I came up with Gain settings of 0, -42, and -36.
2.Turn dimming ON, adjust the back light, and take the 100% measurement only - you've already balanced RGB, or if not, do it now.
3. Turn dimming OFF, adjust the back light.
4. Start at 5% and work your way up adjusting both Gamma and RGB balance at each step.
5. Reiterate as required.



Color Calibration

The P60 has a problem calibrating color with both 100/75 and 75/75. A 75/75 calibration shows excellent graphs but like the Panasonic VT30, content flesh tones are Red and the VT30 fix by reducing the Color control does not work.

more later.............
 

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VIZIO P702ui-B3 Firmware 1.0.0

This calibration was done utilizing my D3 colorimeter profiled against my Pro2 spectro, preset Calibration Dark, gamma 2.4, and with a max light output of 30ftl at 100% stimulus with "Active LED Zones" on/plus Clear Action. This Panel seems to calibrate very well besides the well known issue of inaccurate red curving towards orange near 75/100% saturation. The Calibration Dark preset is definitely far superior in comparison to the other presets...at least with its dimming implementation. After completing my calibration, I a made a few adjustment to red a 25%, 50%, and 75% saturation levels to help subdue the sun burnt faces. I then rechecked 21 point grayscale/color with "Active LED Zones" on, checking for any discrepancies. The picture looks great, shadow detail, saturation, black levels, all acceptable! I have my settings listed below along with a few graph attachments.

Ryan

Calibration Dark*

Basic settings:

Backlight: 78
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0


Advanced Picture:

Color Temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active LED Zones: On
Smooth Motion Effect: Off
Clear Action: On
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Picture Size & Position: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Tuner:

Code:
              Red    Green   Blue   Cyan   Magenta   Yellow
 Hue           0      23      -4     -1       1       -6
 Saturation    0       4       8     30       5        2
 Brightness    7       1      15     -2       4        0
 
 Offset        1       0      -1
 Gain          0       0      -7
11 Point White Balance:

Code:
            Red    Green     Blue
5            0       0        0
10          -6      -6       -3
20          -6       0       -3
30          -3      -3       -4
40          -6      -3       -2
50          -4      -2       -5
60           2       1        2
70          -3      -2       -2
80          -4       0        1
90          -1       1        0
100          0       0      -39
 

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P502ui-B1, FW 1.0.1, HCFR 3.0.6, X-Rite i1D3 Retail.

BT.1886, Gamma 2.22, Night Viewing at 35fTL.

Calibration was done with FALD off. Started in Standard Picture Mode.

All Picture Mode settings are turned off except for Game Low Latency.

EDIT: These work well with GLL off, SME High, and Film Auto as well.

Backlight 19
Brightness 50
Contrast 48
Color 50
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

11-Point White Balance
5% -4 -5 3
10% -4 -4 10
20% -21 -17 -9
30% -14 -17 -15
40% -4 -11 -16
50% -3 -8 -9
60% -3 -7 -8
70% -8 -6 -5
80% -11 -11 -6
90% -16 -13 -10
100% -7 0 -9

Color Tuner is in attached image for this calibration above.

Another calibration from Calibrated Dark, BT.1886 Gamma 2.4, 35ftL, ADZ off throughout calibration, FW 1.0.1:

Backlight 23
Brightness 50
Contrast 48
Color 50
Sharpness 0

Color Tuner
5 5 -6 2 2 -8
16 11 9 45 3 12
-1 0 -4 -5 1 0
-1 1 -13
11 0 -19

11-Point White Balance
5% 3 0 6
10% 17 18 35
20% 10 16 12
30% 19 17 17
40% 31 26 11
50% 31 27 16
60% 32 26 14
70% 22 25 11
80% 14 15 13
90% 4 2 -1
100% -1 16 -9

Settings while watching, everything is off except for SME (High though Med and Low make very little difference if any), CA on.

UPDATED: F/W 1.19
11-Point White Balance
5% 3 -1 6
10% 18 18 35
20% 11 17 18
30% 20 18 21
40% 30 26 19
50% 30 26 25
60% 29 25 22
70% 23 23 23
80% 15 13 21
90% 4 2 8
100% -1 24 5

Biggest change was blue which is now a pleasure to calibrate. dE was 0.28 or 0.23, I forgot which. No changes to CMS from above.
 

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OK guys I have just started doing my calibration of the P70. First off using the i1d3 meter what do is set the display type to. I am using HCFR. I currently have it set to LCD CCFL IPS (CCFL AC EIZO HP with corrections) Not sure if this is the correct screen type or not as none of the listed options makes sense to me. I begin by trying to calibrate the grey scale first. In calibrating the grey scale i was able to bring the colors in line however by doing so the Delta E went way up. I am not sure how this Delta E is calculated. I would think that it is the error in the measurement based off the over or undershoot of your colors. It does not appear to be this was bc as I bring the colors closer and closer to the 100% line it seems to be getting worse. Can someone inform me how this value is calculated. I know it is more important to get the Delta E value as low as possible and Im guessing if that results in the colors being over or under 100% then so be it? Also I have no idea what is going on with my gamma curve. I have the tv set to 2.4 i saw this graph and have no idea what is going on. I have attached a couple screen shots of my work hopefully one of you guys will see what i am doing wrong and can help me out a bit.
 

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dE is calculated taking the luminance into account as well as the RGB balance. Make sure you turn local dimming off before trying to calibrate the full grayscale since that will wreak havoc with your attempts to get this right as that messes up the gamma response of the test patterns. ;)
 

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dE is calculated taking the luminance into account as well as the RGB balance. Make sure you turn local dimming off before trying to calibrate the full grayscale since that will wreak havoc with your attempts to get this right as that messes up the gamma response of the test patterns. ;)
Ahh that just be it. I'll give it a try after the football games today. I was reading over what others were doing and i was under the impression it was best to calibrate 100% with dimming off and the rest with dimming on.
 

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Ok so I took your advise @Googer and it is still not cooperating with me. My gamma graph is not tracking at all. I must be doing something wrong. I open HCFR and I am using the AVS HD709 dist as my pattern generator. When opening the software I select To use DVD manual and then select my sensor. The next part is the part I am really confused about and may be my issue. It asks for a display tyoe with several options I have tried a few thus far. Im not sure if i should use a refresh display non refresh display or one the CCFL options. I know i am suppose to start with a 2 point grey scale calibration using the 40% and 100% points while turning on dimming for 100% and off for all other measurements but HCFR does not allow you to do this or at least I can not find it. It will only do the 11 point grey scale. I zeroed out all the value and just started completly over. I set the gamma value of the tv to 2.2 as most often I will be viewing in a lit environment. Under preferences I have it set to REC 709 (75%/75%) as i believe you guys said this will deliver the best results. the White is set to D65. My gamma calculation is set to ITU_R BT.1886 in the box for effective i have it set to 0 and a 100% offset. Now when I run the grey scale I basically am getting a decreasing exponetial function. By changing the number under the grey scale you are effectivly changing the the gain correct? so if i am low on the gamma scale i should increase the gain of that color in order to seek the desired gamma right? I have change the values of 50-100% all the way to negative 50 and have not been able to get anything except the decreasing function. Do i have something set wrong? I dont get why it is acting like this. I have spent hours just on the grey scale and have basically restarted. If anyone could give me a little push in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Did you remember to turn the dimming back to off after doing 100%
FYI, buzz, I tried several attempts using FALD on with 100% and I got to tell you, with HCFR, the results were less than stellar.

I actually wound up turning it off for the full calibration and got a much more rational gamma curve.
 

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FYI, buzz, I tried several attempts using FALD on with 100% and I got to tell you, with HCFR, the results were less than stellar.

I actually wound up turning it off for the full calibration and got much more rational gamma curve.
Did you first check to see it turning dimming off and on while displaying a 100% pattern dramatically changed the picture? If it didn't, dimming off throughout the entire GS calibration would be correct.
 

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FYI, buzz, I tried several attempts using FALD on with 100% and I got to tell you, with HCFR, the results were less than stellar.

I actually wound up turning it off for the full calibration and got much more rational gamma curve.
What gamma vmcurve did you use to calibrate? Also what did you set the tv type to. I've never seen this not sure what I should set it to and can't find any information on it throughout the other forums. If you look at my posted pics above do you have any advise on what would make this occur?
 

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Ok so I took your advise @Googer and it is still not cooperating with me. My gamma graph is not tracking at all. I must be doing something wrong. I open HCFR and I am using the AVS HD709 dist as my pattern generator. When opening the software I select To use DVD manual and then select my sensor. The next part is the part I am really confused about and may be my issue. It asks for a display tyoe with several options I have tried a few thus far. Im not sure if i should use a refresh display non refresh display or one the CCFL options. I know i am suppose to start with a 2 point grey scale calibration using the 40% and 100% points while turning on dimming for 100% and off for all other measurements but HCFR does not allow you to do this or at least I can not find it. It will only do the 11 point grey scale. I zeroed out all the value and just started completly over. I set the gamma value of the tv to 2.2 as most often I will be viewing in a lit environment. Under preferences I have it set to REC 709 (75%/75%) as i believe you guys said this will deliver the best results. the White is set to D65. My gamma calculation is set to ITU_R BT.1886 in the box for effective i have it set to 0 and a 100% offset. Now when I run the grey scale I basically am getting a decreasing exponetial function. By changing the number under the grey scale you are effectivly changing the the gain correct? so if i am low on the gamma scale i should increase the gain of that color in order to seek the desired gamma right? I have change the values of 50-100% all the way to negative 50 and have not been able to get anything except the decreasing function. Do i have something set wrong? I dont get why it is acting like this. I have spent hours just on the grey scale and have basically restarted. If anyone could give me a little push in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.
First off superkyle, don't make the same mistake I made, use the GCD disc, not the AVS709 disc. It will be a lot easier when you wound up getting to color.

BT.1886, 2.22 (basically the default, I like 2.22, be my guess and target 2.4, personal taste, etc.). I have Game Low Latency on, everything ELSE is off. (post calibration FALD goes back on obviously).

Please do this (turn FALD off for the this whole procedure):

1) Insert GCD disc
2) Select 10% Windows -> Grayscale -> 100% White
3) Measure your ftl, bring backlight down to where you feel comfortable - I like 35ftL which turned out to be 19 on the P502ui-B1 out the gate
NOTE: I double checked this using the AVS709 -> 100% White pattern AS WELL AS zoyd's aweomse GCD. 19 is what my iD3 said was 35ftL. I even checked post calibration, it's friggin 19.
4) Go now to Main -> Basic Patterns
5) Black Clip Pattern -> Make sure 16 is black, 17 and up are blinking
6) Got back one menu and go to White Clip Pattern -> Set Contrast to a reasonable value where you can barely see 235 or above blink.
NOTE: You NOT going to believe this, but I actually tried to get S&M disc, AVS709, and GCD all to agree. I was 2/3 (S&M is a strange disc).
7) Perform an initial Grayscale sweep by selecting 10% Windows->Grayscale->10% steps
8) Press the HCFR Grayscale sweep button (the gray bubbles!)
9) Follow directions
10) Go now to 10% Window->Grayscale
11) Go into on your Vizio to the Color Tuner Menu, you are going to now adjust Offset (lowend) and Gain (highend)
12) I do 80/30, some like to do 90/20, doesn't really matter, but 80/30 worked for me just fine.
13) Start Free Measurement (press Play), you are going to first do a 2-pt Grayscale tune up to get the whole sweep in general alignment (you still need to work on luminance and dEs for the full 11-pt later on).
14) On 80% modify Gain's Red and Blue (do not touch green, there is no need to) to get the dE bar
 

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What gamma vmcurve did you use to calibrate? Also what did you set the tv type to. I've never seen this not sure what I should set it to and can't find any information on it throughout the other forums. If you look at my posted pics above do you have any advise on what would make this occur?
Display Type is LED RGB IPS I believe. I'm not sure there are any other that are even remotely close (it's certainly not CCFTL nor Plasma).
 
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