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Only one 3* review...all the others are 4* & 5*...seems a little incredulous to me.
It was the same for the DVR+ reviews. I would hazard a guess—that has a good chance of being correct—that the bulk of the reviews are posted by individuals that are not as knowledgable or critical as the average AVS member. There also seems to be at least one DVR+ review that may be a Russian IRA agent:

Channelmaster DVR 16gb September 18, 2017
Reviewer: Anonymous Person from San Diego, CA
Before I cut cable, I installed antenna and hook up TV. I received pretty good channels I tested channels and got some languages like Spanish, Vietnam, Russia and some other language I do not know because of mixed pot languages in San Diego. Then I hook up channelmaster plus bought a 1TB hardrive. Great most better clear and recording is great. I have been tested for two weeks. Now I am ready to cut cable tomorrow for good. I m tired of cable control and want freedom from cable.
 

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It was the same for the DVR+ reviews. I would hazard a guess—that has a good chance of being correct—that the bulk of the reviews are posted by individuals that are not as knowledgable or critical as the average AVS member. There also seems to be at least one DVR+ review that may be a Russian IRA agent:
That's fantastic. :D
 

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Muxing Stream+ files

I do not own a Stream+ and I operate a Linux based computer. I used Linux software to look at the stream.zip and stream2.zip program files uploaded by Arbegas. Poster criggs gave a method of muxing the audio and video files which took multiple, time-consuming steps and purchased software. I was able to start my software, load the files, save the *.ts based mpg file and close the software for the stream.zip recording in 1 minute 9 seconds using a single program.

What I found in the stream program was a "glitch" as previously reported at about 16 seconds which lasted about 15 seconds. The recording resumed normal operation then until the first commercial break. At that time the video and sound lost sync and the sound was delayed. Looking at the files the video file appears to be 7 minutes and 48 seconds long, while the audio file appears to be 8 minutes and 3 seconds long. One program reported multiple duplicate frames for the video file, and that may be the cause of the sync loss.

What I found in the stream2 program was a "glitch" as previously reported at about 16 seconds which lasted about 15 seconds. The audio and video were in sync for the entire file. Both the audio and video files were reported as 1 minute 15 seconds long. Audio file 1 was reported as 6 channel AC-3 and audio file 2 was reported as 1 channel AC-3. This is unusual, as second audio sources are usually the stereo (2 channel) version - that may indicate a bug in the recording software. Both files could be used as the audio source for the muxed resultant file.

All muxed files were successfully played by more recent versions of VLC, with the elapsed time and total time information correct. As expected, the higher resolution stream2 file required a faster cpu/video system to maintain a high quality viewing experience. The closed captioning data was viewable in VLC.

I suspect the *.idx2 files are indexes that are used by the Live Channel playback software to sync the audio and video together. This may neutralize the loss of sync in the stream program file. If so, then muxing software would need to know the idx2 file structure to overcome recording irregularities.

I do have one question on the stream files - is the "glitch" seen only in the extracted files or is it also present in the playback of the original files on the stream+ unit?

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The program used in this trial was avidemux. It is a free video editing software program. I used version series 2.5 which is frame based. Starting with version 2.6 it was to go to time based - this is to help with damaged files. To use, simply open the video file in the program. Using the audio menu (top menu bar) select main track and external AC3 file - then browse for the audio file. Video setting is COPY and audio setting is COPY. Select MPEG-TS (A+V) as the format for the saved file. Then click the save button to create your *.ts final file.

While avidemux is a Linux based program, on the website is a Windows port of the program. I do not know how well this port will work or if additional software is needed for Windows.

Also, avidemux was originally command line driven. I do not know the commands or if it still retains that capability. But it may be possible to write a simple batch file to automatically run the muxing process.
 

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just ordered this unit than i realize it cannot support keyboard or mouse !!!

unless somebody tell me mouse/keyboard are supported i will have to cancel !
 

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I'm sure we can all agree that there are sufficient shortcomings to Channel Master's review postings that they have little to no value to AVS members. It probably would be best if we just dropped this part of the discussion and moved on to some more 'meatier' topics regarding this device.
 

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just ordered this unit than i realize it cannot support keyboard or mouse !!!

unless somebody tell me mouse/keyboard are supported i will have to cancel !
Bluetooth keyboards work fine. Channel Master only provides customer support for the Bluetooth Channel Master Remote. It seems for anything other than their Hardware, they will refer you to Google, or for accessories, to their Customer support services.
 

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Bluetooth keyboards work fine.
Thanks Valyard ! so you have this DVR and succesfuly use keyboard ?
i have a "Smart TV" without keyboard support and told myself never ever again...

did the voice recognition work good enough so we could even spare the keyboard ?

Save your money this product is not ready for primetime. Unless they fix it
hummm i realize we are beta tester ?

*Mine just arrived via USPS
thanks for your official post...i wish you could update your first post with all important suggestion + PRO & CON !
people will not read 20 pages to learn if its good or not...
 

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Thanks Valyard ! so you have this DVR and succesfuly use keyboard ?
i have a "Smart TV" without keyboard support and told myself never ever again...

did the voice recognition work good enough so we could even spare the keyboard ?
I have also paired a keyboard. Problem is voice search is primary method, so it takes some steps to exit voice to use the keyboard. Not very convenient.

I posted my overall opinion earlier which is mostly negative. I would not recommend the Stream+ to anybody.
 

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IIRC it was reported that if you unpair your remote from your Stream+, thus disabling Bluetooth, the remote works in IR mode. Of course you lose voice, but you can then teach your remote to another learning remote such as a Harmony, and then pair your Stream+ remote again. You can then use your Stream+ remote for voice and your Harmony as an ordinary IR remote.
Thank you.
After reading your post, I looked and was able to find the Stream+ in the Harmony device data base, rather easily.
It is listed in Device Search under:
Manufacturer = Channel Master; Device Model Number = CM-7600.

The Stream+ displays as: Channel Master DVR [Channel Master CM-7600]
For comparison, the DVR+ displays as: Channel Master DVR [Channel Master CM-7500]
So, as long as the IR receiver is active, a Harmony remote will control it.

As far as the Stream+ goes, my interest is entirely in the capabilities of the Plex client app, running on the Stream+'s quad-core game-class processor -- Live Channels/DVR is irrelevant. @fshagan has already shown it will Direct Play a DVD MKV rip. I'm waiting to see what it will do with a full bitrate BD rip. Currently only the nVidia Shield's Plex client will Direct Play a full bitrate BD rip with HD audio, but the current Shield is exclusively Blutooth and requires the addition of a $25 FLIRC for IR -- on top of the $200 price-tag -- and it's not clear how to get a Harmony remote programmed for that. If it turns out the Stream+ can Direct play a full bitrate BD rip with HD audio, I'll buy one -- when they go on sale for $99 after you guys finish trashing it. :)
 

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I do not own a Stream+ and I operate a Linux based computer. I used Linux software to look at the stream.zip and stream2.zip program files uploaded by Arbegas. Poster criggs gave a method of muxing the audio and video files which took multiple, time-consuming steps and purchased software. I was able to start my software, load the files, save the *.ts based mpg file and close the software for the stream.zip recording in 1 minute 9 seconds using a single program.
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The program used in this trial was avidemux. It is a free video editing software program. I used version series 2.5 which is frame based. Starting with version 2.6 it was to go to time based - this is to help with damaged files. To use, simply open the video file in the program. Using the audio menu (top menu bar) select main track and external AC3 file - then browse for the audio file. Video setting is COPY and audio setting is COPY. Select MPEG-TS (A+V) as the format for the saved file. Then click the save button to create your *.ts final file.
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I'm just confirming the work you did using Avidemux in Linux to port a Stream+ recording to a computer (another step forward):), but I'm doing your procedure in Windows 10 x64. I used the sample "16227dcc99a_" series of files from Arbegas. Thanks again @arbegas !

1. Using Avidemux 2.5.0, the results were nearly identical to what you've described, with that "glitch" lasting 11 seconds, beginning at 16 seconds. We definitely need to know if that occurs in the original file on the Stream+. More short sample files by an owner would be very welcome!!!

No luck using later versions of Avidemux (see item 2 after the spoiler).

Using screenshots from Avidemux 2.5.0, I've documented the steps that you've outlined. Since there are a bunch of images, those interested can open the Spoiler.

Opening the video chunk file (the "_0_" chunk file):


Selecting the "Audio" menu, Main Track option:


The Main Audio Track window looks like this when first opened (note the Browse button is disabled):


Select AC3 for the Audio Source, which enables the "Browse" button:


Click the Browse button and select the audio source, which is the "_1_" chunk file. I don't know if this is always the case. Click OK when done to return to the main window:


Setting the Video and Audio to "Copy", and the video output format to "MPEG-TS (A+V)":



When ready to create the new video file, from the main window click the "Save" button, or "File, Save, Save Video (Ctrl+s)" from the menu. The "Select File to Save" window opens. Provide the folder and output file name, then click the Save button:



The Encoding progress window (goes very fast):


That's it! Navigate to the output folder and play the new TS video.

2. Avidemux 2.6.8 and 2.7.0 both refused to open the video "chunk" file with the following message:





3. Where to obtain various versions of Avidemux for Windows (and other OS for 2.6 and 2.7):

Avidemux v2.7.0

Avidemux v2.6.(18 thru 20)

Avidemux v2.5.6

Avidemux v2.5.0
 

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i dont use stream + since that recordings. what kind of recording you need? i can do some more.
also i can record stream + playing recordings.

for what i remember when i play those files i think is same issue the one that you talk 16-15 seconds.
also sometimes changing channels its get slow video like it was too heavy reproduce it, i remember see that on pc when you put HD videos with a old video card. or old computer


i think the cure for this pain in the as* its one tool that can process those files with just one click in pc.
 

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About the "glitch" again - there are normal frames at beginning of the pulled files [.chunk];
a) using any ES stream analyzing program will tell you that,
b) reading IDX2 items will provide you 1st pointer to zero offset of the chunk files.
Structures of S+ meta files posted here not that long time ago, just use it for your research.
 

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Not sure what you are relating this to, but I know who Technicolor was long before Stream +/Skipper. I watch Bloomberg Business News and when they purchased Cisco I said Hey that's made in Technolocolr,....

THIS SITE is the 0.01% which will probably know who / what Technicolor was/is.

Going to AVERAGE JANES, BZZT! Wahawahahaha.. no departing gifts. I proved that. Yeah its not truly scientific with a broad base, etc... but if the audience of streamers don't know who CM is they don't know who TC is either. Let alone the history of Thomson.

Maybe if you find some one about 50+ they might remember that Technicolor was the big deal when color films started to show. MAYBE. They have no clue of what Thomson aka Technicolor owns now. Nor do they probably care.

Besides do you really think Stream+ is going to be on an end rack at Skankmart, or Target any time soon?
If CM wants to sell this as a streaming box, in the vein of various junk like rokus, fire etc.. Then getting them to MASS RETAILERS would behove them.

The local Tarjay has a whole shelf full of those abominable roku thingys. I am curious as to where the TC version of this thing is sold? Tesco (Really this place needs to change names, since this is a major RF supplier for me :) ), ASDA, Aldi, Lidl's etc.. If that is the case, then CM doing the same in the US would be likely.

Aiming this at the users here, is an EPIC FAIL. EPIC! The flames are getting bigger daily from what I can see here. Look at this thread features the are clearly needed for something that "streams" ie: netflix, hulu, sling, etc.. are missing. Then again aiming at this crowd its going to look at certain other features ie: all those 99.9999999 sound setups etc.. Which it fails at be it bug or total non support to start.

You are either probably at the extreme end of this in looking for DVR features with some streaming added in, ie: me, or at the extreme end of wanting streaming features with some DVR stuff thrown in to fill in the mix.

At this point the device doesn't fit either, nor does it find a middle ground even. Yeah its an initial release. I'd call it a failure.

Even at $99 I would consider that a waste, yes, I probably, no do waste that a week at times on junk. I hit the dump cart button, after seeing the shape of the thing. Where in the blazes do I put that thing in the rack and it not be a nuisance???

The fact that TWO $30 ViewAT's a couple USB sticks from Tarjay work BETTER than this thing, hilarious! Yes the mStar ViewTV's have foibles I dislike like scheduling nuisances, ie: no Mo-Fr, Sa-Su. BUT The fact they work, and I've got a line of a USB interface that might just let me slurp out the stuff via LAN to play on my main Android box would be a plus.
 
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The fact that TWO $30 ViewAT's a couple USB sticks from Tarjay work BETTER than this thing, hilarious! Yes the mStar ViewTV's have foibles I dislike like scheduling nuisances, ie: no Mo-Fr, Sa-Su. BUT The fact they work, and I've got a line of a USB interface that might just let me slurp out the stuff via LAN to play on my main Android box would be a plus.

Translation please? I searched a couple of the terms above and really could not find much relevant to Android TV, the Stream+, or similar items. One seemed to be about OTA antennas and another about analog to digital converters. Tarjay=Target? I did figure out Mo-Fr, Sa-Su.
 

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For the Stream+ to be a financial success, it does need to hit big box retail. Obviously Channel Master has plans for that.
The hurdle I see about retail, is Wholesalers accept returns for defective merchandise, but retailers take the hit for "Customer Satisfaction".
In this issue, in general, the complaints from Stream+ customers sound like "Customer Satisfaction" and not defective merchandise. They are including a notice in the packaging about Not dealing with retailers about problems, to contact Channel Master support.

So far Channel Master support says their hardware is 100% , contact Google or others.

If I was the buyer at a local Micro Center, Best Buy, I would be very careful about selling Stream+.
 

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I do have one question on the stream files - is the "glitch" seen only in the extracted files or is it also present in the playback of the original files on the stream+ unit?
This was a painfully obvious question which I too asked Arbegas. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Arbegas has yet to answer it; not sure why. Perhaps he just missed it. Which means, perhaps, that he will note the question this time and give an answer to it.

Edit: I posted this message in response to Kaye before I realized Arbegas had now answered this question, I believe. He appears to have given us the (to me somewhat surprising) answer that he see the glitch even when playing back the file in its native Stream+ environment; curious.

I used Linux software to look at the stream.zip and stream2.zip program files uploaded by Arbegas. Poster criggs gave a method of muxing the audio and video files which took multiple, time-consuming steps and purchased software. I was able to start my software, load the files, save the *.ts based mpg file and close the software for the stream.zip recording in 1 minute 9 seconds using a single program...All muxed files were successfully played by more recent versions of VLC, with the elapsed time and total time information correct...The closed captioning data was viewable in VLC...The program used in this trial was avidemux. It is a free video editing software program...To use, simply open the video file in the program. Using the audio menu (top menu bar) select main track and external AC3 file - then browse for the audio file. Video setting is COPY and audio setting is COPY. Select MPEG-TS (A+V) as the format for the saved file. Then click the save button to create your *.ts final file.
This is fabulous!!! Thank you so much! This is exactly what I meant in my previous posting when I expressed the hope that someone would build on my efforts and improve on them, and you certainly appear to have done that!

And, in quite a coincidence, I actually have and use avidemux. It never occurred to me to see if it could help me with this process, so hat's off to you.

At the same time, now that I've pretty made up my mind I will not be getting the Stream+ (I'm happier with my current DVR+/Fire TV combo), I probably won't attempt to duplicate your efforts. But it's nice to know that we now have this procedure ready in case CM makes Stream+ ready for prime time.
 

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no such glitch exist in S+

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I do have one question on the stream files - is the "glitch" seen only in the extracted files or is it also present in the playback of the original files on the stream+ unit?

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There is no glitch, the files are in a sync between IDX2 files and .chunk files.
You are using a method(s) off normal way of S+ software, without pulling System info and no parsing IDX2 data.
 
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