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EDIT: I have been informed that the drop.io links no longer work. You can get the entire collection in two parts here: part 1 , part 2


All current-generation streamers can play standard encodes with ease. They'll all do Divx/Xvid and h.264 DVD rips with AC3 or MP3 audio. Nearly all will do reasonable BD rips as well. It's only when you get to the really high-end encodes or uncommon stuff that you can run into compatibility issues.


Here is what is included in this collection of test files to determine the limits of a given device. I've tried to cover all the bases, but if something is missing, please let me know.
  • M2TS: Standard 1080p M2TS ripped from a blu-ray
  • DVR-MS: Microsoft's old proprietary TV recording format
  • WMV9: 1080p WMV9 video with 5.1 WMA audio
  • HDTV: 1080i 60hz HDTV rip, no audio
  • AVCHD: 1080p M2TS from a Sony HD camcorder
  • Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs
  • DTS: Standard DTS 5.1 audio
  • DTS-MA: 7.1 DTS-MA lossless audio
  • Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio
  • MP4: 1080p L5.0 Apple trailer with 9 reframes and AAC audio
  • 5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA (ASS 4.0) subs including complex styles and transitions
  • OGG: 720p Ogg Theora video with Vorbis audio
  • RMVB: Real Video variable bitrate. Unknown if it is RM9 or RM10, as they both use the same header (RV40)
  • TRP: 1080p Kaon DVB Transport Stream with dual AC3 audio
  • UTF-8: MKV with the following UTF-8 SRT sub tracks: Arabic, Chinese, English, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Thai, Turkish and Vietnamese
  • Deinterlacing: 1080i test pattern to determine deinterlacing capabilities (see here for details)


If anybody can point me to small (under 300MB if possible) DVD and BD ISOs with menus and/or a short clip with 7.1 FLAC, I'd love to add them.
 

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A unified list of test files is a great idea. Thanks for posting them. Here are my results using an Xtreamer with 1.0.3.1 firmware. All files were first tested streaming over wired Ethernet and Samba and then again using a USB drive. I found no difference between the two.:
  • M2TS: Standard 1080p M2TS ripped from a blu-ray - (8.3mbps-1080p-30fps-L4.1-3ref.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • DVR-MS: Microsoft's old proprietary TV recording format (6mbps-480i-MPEG-ASF.dvr-ms) - FILE INVISIBLE TO XTREAMER, NOT TESTED
  • WMV9: 1080p WMV9 video with 5.1 WMA audio - (8mbps-1080p-24fps-WMV9-6chWMA.wmv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • HDTV: 1080i 60hz HDTV rip - (10mbps-1080i-60fps-L5.1-8ref-HDTV.mkv) - WOULD NOT PLAY
  • AVCHD: 1080p M2TS from a Sony HD camcorder - (11.6mbps-1080p-AVCHD-Sony-Camcorder.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs - (19mbps-1080p-24fps-L5.1-16ref-improper.mkv) - COLOUR PROBLEMS FROM START, STUTTERING AND PICTURE BREAKUP THROUGH BIRD SCENE
  • DTS: Standard DTS 5.1 audio - (10.2mbps-1080p-24fps-L4.1-5ref-DTS.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • DTS-MA: 7.1 DTS-MA lossless audio - (28mbps-L4.1-DTS-MA.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio - (30mbps-L4.1-TrueHD.m2ts) - NO AUDIO, OTHERWISE PICTURE OK
  • MP4: Apple trailer with 9 reframes and AAC audio - (4377kbps-1080p-24fps-L5.0-9ref-AAC.mp4) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • 5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - (L4.1-8ref-6ch-FLAC-SSAsubs.mkv) - NO AUDIO, PICTURE PERFECT, SUBS DISPLAYED
  • OGG: 720p Ogg Theora video with Vorbis audio - (4.6mbps-720p-30fps-Theora.ogg) - WOULD NOT PLAY
  • RMVB: Real Video variable bitrate Unknown if it is RM9 or RM10, as they both use the same header (RV40) - (SD-25fps-RV40.rmvb) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • TRP: 1080p Kaon DVB Transport Stream with dual AC3 audio - (15mbps-1080p-L4.0-4ref-dualAC3.trp) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


So a total score of 8/14.
 

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5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - (L4.1-8ref-6ch-FLAC-SSAsubs.mkv) - NO AUDIO, PICTURE PERFECT, SUBS DISPLAYED

Most streamers do a half-assed job of displaying SSA subs. They don't support the advanced formatting features. Try playing the video on your computer with something that definately supports all the features (XBMC, SMplayer, etc) and then see if the Xtreamer is really displaying the subs correctly. Were there two sets of subtitles, one on top of the screen ond one on the bottom? Were they two different fonts? Did the transition effects work? It should look like this:
 

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I just bought the latest TVix M6600N, verfiy the tested result as foolowing:

THe resuylt seento be better than Streamer.


M2TS: Standard 1080p M2TS ripped from a blu-ray - (8.3mbps-1080p-30fps-L4.1-3ref.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


DVR-MS: Microsoft's old proprietary TV recording format (6mbps-480i-MPEG-ASF.dvr-ms) - FILE INVISIBLE TO TVIX


WMV9: 1080p WMV9 video with 5.1 WMA audio - (8mbps-1080p-24fps-WMV9-6chWMA.wmv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


HDTV: 1080i 60hz HDTV rip - (10mbps-1080i-60fps-L5.1-8ref-HDTV.mkv) -
PLAYED but video JERKY


AVCHD: 1080p M2TS from a Sony HD camcorder - (11.6mbps-1080p-AVCHD-Sony-Camcorder.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs - (19mbps-1080p-24fps-L5.1-16ref-improper.mkv) - COLOUR PROBLEMS FROM START, STUTTERING AND PICTURE BREAKUP THROUGH BIRD SCENE


DTS: Standard DTS 5.1 audio - (10.2mbps-1080p-24fps-L4.1-5ref-DTS.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


DTS-MA: 7.1 DTS-MA lossless audio - (28mbps-L4.1-DTS-MA.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio - (30mbps-L4.1-TrueHD.m2ts) - NO AUDIO, OTHERWISE PICTURE OK

MP4: Apple trailer with 9 reframes and AAC audio - (4377kbps-1080p-24fps-L5.0-9ref-AAC.mp4) - PLAYED PERFECTLY


5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - (L4.1-8ref-6ch-FLAC-SSAsubs.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY

OGG: 720p Ogg Theora video with Vorbis audio - (4.6mbps-720p-30fps-Theora.ogg) - CAN'T PLAY -NOT SUPPORTED

RMVB: Real Video variable bitrate Unknown if it is RM9 or RM10, as they both use the same header (RV40) - (SD-25fps-RV40.rmvb) - PLAYED PERFECTLYTRP: 1080p Kaon DVB Transport Stream with dual AC3 audio - (15mbps-1080p-L4.0-4ref-dualAC3.trp) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
 

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5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - (L4.1-8ref-6ch-FLAC-SSAsubs.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY

Even the transition effects? See the image above for what the subs should look like.
 

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im too lazy to test it all but for now on the new WDTV live this plays just fine the bird scene is quite nuts but it seems to be smooth.


Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs - (19mbps-1080p-24fps-L5.1-16ref-improper.mkv)
 

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Dear Candre,


Could you post more video clip for test and verficaiton purpose, especially include DTS portion, my friend seen having other Sigma 89635c player, Kaiboered K009 player failed on most of the MKV with DTS audio track.


Still looking solutions.
 

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I already posted clips with DTS 5.1 and 7.1 audio. If those don't work, then the player doesn't support the format.
 

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This is a good idea. I would suggest though that you name the files with an appended or prepended number so that people can keep them straight on which one is which when playing them. Then a table could be generated of tested system configuration and the results.
 

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Originally Posted by candre23 /forum/post/17227581


All current-generation streamers can play standard encodes with ease. They'll all do Divx/Xvid and h.264 DVD rips with AC3 or MP3 audio. Nearly all will do reasonable BD rips as well. It's only when you get to the really high-end encodes or uncommon stuff that you can run into compatibility issues.


Below is a collection of test files to determine the limits of a given device. I've tried to cover all the bases, but if something is missing, please let me know. All files have been uploaded to drop.io because they're one of the few file hosts that doesn't have annoying transfer limits, capchas or timers. Once I'm sure there's nothing worth testing that isn't included, I'll bundle it up into one big pack.
  • M2TS: Standard 1080p M2TS ripped from a blu-ray - link
  • DVR-MS: Microsoft's old proprietary TV recording format - link
  • WMV9: 1080p WMV9 video with 5.1 WMA audio - link
  • HDTV: 1080i 60hz HDTV rip, no audio - link
  • AVCHD: 1080p M2TS from a Sony HD camcorder - link
  • Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs - part1 part2
  • DTS: Standard DTS 5.1 audio link
  • DTS-MA: 7.1 DTS-MA lossless audio - link
  • Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio - link
  • MP4: 1080p L5.0 Apple trailer with 9 reframes and AAC audio - link
  • 5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - part1 part2 part3 part4
  • OGG: 720p Ogg Theora video with Vorbis audio - link
  • RMVB: Real Video variable bitrate. Unknown if it is RM9 or RM10, as they both use the same header (RV40) - link
  • TRP: 1080p Kaon DVB Transport Stream with dual AC3 audio - link
  • UTF-8: MKV with the following UTF-8 SRT sub tracks: Arabic, Chinese, English, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Thai, Turkish and Vietnamese - link
  • Deinterlacing: 1080i test pattern to determine deinterlacing capabilities (see here for details) - link


If anybody can point me to small (under 300MB if possible) DVD and BD ISOs with menus and/or a short clip with 7.1 FLAC, I'd love to add them.



Instead of my just hijacking your files would you mind if I put these files on my domain which would enable immediate fast download? You also can upload more media (if you come across) to the same place.
 

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to fully test blu ray rips you need separate test files for 1080p avc, vc1, mpeg2 video encodes because they can cause different problems for different players. audio is a huge can of worms.... which is why i rip everything to flac and/or ac3.
 

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Instead of my just hijacking your files would you mind if I put these files on my domain which would enable immediate fast download? You also can upload more media (if you come across) to the same place.

Drop.io is a free file hosting site, not my site. You can use the links I posted or host the files yourself. Your call.
 

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I tested this with the new firmware 2.02 for the Xtreamer.


Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio - (30mbps-L4.1-TrueHD.m2ts)


It now plays with sound.
 

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Xtreamer Firmware 2.02:
  • M2TS: Standard 1080p M2TS ripped from a blu-ray - (8.3mbps-1080p-30fps-L4.1-3ref.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • DVR-MS: Microsoft's old proprietary TV recording format (6mbps-480i-MPEG-ASF.dvr-ms) - FILE INVISIBLE TO XTREAMER, NOT TESTED
  • WMV9: 1080p WMV9 video with 5.1 WMA audio - (8mbps-1080p-24fps-WMV9-6chWMA.wmv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • HDTV: 1080i 60hz HDTV rip - (10mbps-1080i-60fps-L5.1-8ref-HDTV.mkv) - PLAYED BUT JERKY + NO SOUND ************
  • AVCHD: 1080p M2TS from a Sony HD camcorder - (11.6mbps-1080p-AVCHD-Sony-Camcorder.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • Improper encode: The infamous Planet Earth clip with an absurd 16 reframes. The bird scene stutters even on high end PCs - (19mbps-1080p-24fps-L5.1-16ref-improper.mkv) - COLOUR PROBLEMS, SOME PICTURE BREAKUP. LESS BREAKUP THAN PREVIOUS FIRMWARE. **********
  • DTS: Standard DTS 5.1 audio - (10.2mbps-1080p-24fps-L4.1-5ref-DTS.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • DTS-MA: 7.1 DTS-MA lossless audio - (28mbps-L4.1-DTS-MA.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY IN STEREO ON TV.
  • Dolby TrueHD: 7.1 lossless TrueHD audio - (30mbps-L4.1-TrueHD.m2ts) - PLAYED PERFECTLY *********
  • MP4: Apple trailer with 9 reframes and AAC audio - (4377kbps-1080p-24fps-L5.0-9ref-AAC.mp4) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • 5.1 FLAC + SSA: Multichannel FLAC audio and SSA subs including complex styles and transitions - (L4.1-8ref-6ch-FLAC-SSAsubs.mkv) - PLAYED PERFECT WITH AUDIO. SUBS ONLY AT BOTTOM **********
  • OGG: 720p Ogg Theora video with Vorbis audio - (4.6mbps-720p-30fps-Theora.ogg) - WOULD NOT PLAY. 'INVALID MUSIC FILE'
  • RMVB: Real Video variable bitrate Unknown if it is RM9 or RM10, as they both use the same header (RV40) - (SD-25fps-RV40.rmvb) - PLAYED PERFECTLY
  • TRP: 1080p Kaon DVB Transport Stream with dual AC3 audio - (15mbps-1080p-L4.0-4ref-dualAC3.trp) - PLAYED PERFECTLY AUDIO TRACK 1/2. TRACK 2/2 MUTE?


So some improvements over the last test with 1.03.1 firmware. The differences are marked *************.


The TrueHD file now works, as does the FLAC audio track. The HDTV 60Hz clip also worked this time but without sound.
 
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