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Well now that there are some of us that actually own this amazing pre/pro, it's now time to officially get this thread started.



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Firmware Revision


Thanks to MarkB for sharing this most useful info.



From Japan website concerning the recent update (for the AVP-A1HD)

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AV サラウンドプリアンプ AVP-A1HD


2008/04/16 (1) scaling operation of the dual monitor connected time was improved.

(2) operation at the time of function change was improved.

(3) operation of optical digital output was improved.

As for the product where this update is necessary,end of serial number is only the product 250thor less.

* Product number the guarantee, is the number of 10 columns of statement in the carton case, and the product rear.

To check the firmware revision on the AVP (thanks to Steve91 of avforums for this):

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1) Power off using the front panel main power switch (not the stand by button)

2) Inside the front panel door, press 'dimmer' and 'status' buttons simultaneously.

3) Power on using front panel main power switch whilst still holding the 'dimmer' and 'status' buttons.

4) Release the 'dimmer' and 'status' buttons after a couple of seconds.

5) Use the 'status' button to scroll through the firmware list (starts with unit's serial number).

6) Cycle the power using the front panel main power switch to restore normal operation.
Version Info:

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Originally Posted by MarkB

Before update:

Main Ver 00.98

Sub Ver 00.50

Main ROM 00.98

Main PLD 00.25

DSP1 Ver 36.56

DSP2 Ver 37.14

DSP3 Ver 38.10

...a few Ethernet ones that I have not bothered to include...

GUI PRG 00007621

GUI DAT 10003007

REALTA 070C14

HDMIA PLD 00.20

DGTL FPGA 00.10

POA1 Ver 00.37


After update:

Sub Ver 00.58

!!!New Firmware update info from Denon!!!

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** If your current set up has no problem , then we don't recommend to have any firmware update .**


**The update is set for some hardware HDMI handshaking problems, BD disc audio format display problems**


**GUI rolling word speed up ...**


**The best environment for update is using wired LAN cable hooked with AVP.**


**Make sure the ISP you are using can pass all the data from Denon server .**


**It will freeze the AVP if the update cannot complete.**




I was given permission by The President/Owner of Audioholics (Gene DellaSala) to post a re-print of a comprehensive information page about the firmware updates he has on the Audioholics website. Thank you to Gene for allowing me to share this most helpful information here on our thread.



Also Gene has started a Denon AVP-A1HDCI / POA-A1HDCI Review Support Thread . Gene will be supporting this product there and has direct contact with Denon to answer any questions. This is an excellent companion site for our AVP/POA owners thread.

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Denon AVP-A1HDCI & AVR-5308CI Firmware Update

*Anyone considering this update should proceed with caution as some AVP owners have experienced some serious unit freeze ups and operational issues. More info on this will be provided as it becomes available.*


[update] 08/10/08


After hearing about the success that AVP owners are having with the update here recently, I decided to give it a go myself. I'm happy to report that my AVP update was successful and went through without a hitch. The update took exactly 61 minutes. So it "seems" as though whatever problems were there before, may have now been corrected. After the update I tested the music streaming to make sure that was ok, it was fine.




by Gene DellaSala — last modified June 23, 2008 12:59


Firmware


Denon has just announced firmware updates for their flagship AVP-A1HDCI 12CH A/V Processor. There are two updates which are tabulated below. The updates will only benefit users experiencing these operational issues. All updates are cumulative; meaning the latest one will include the previous ones if the unit had not been updated prior. These update corrections are for North America units only – other updates are available for other markets as well.



Models Affected: AVP-A1HDCI, AVR-5803CI




SUBJECT: Correction of the Firmware via DPMS (Denon Product Management Server)





Update #1 April 16th, 2008


SYMPTOM:


If "Hi-Def-signal" of 720p inputs to the unit, it can scale to "1080i" but can not

scale to "1080p".


"Pop" noise occurs when the muting function turns on.

The noise occurs when the input selector is changed.

A different digital signal might be output to "OPT-4" output.

The connectivity of HDMI is improved.


CAUSE: The malfunctions occurred due to bugs in the firmware.



COUNTERMEASURE: corrected the firmware so that no malfunction occurs.





Update #2: June 16, 2008


SYMPTOM:


Addition of the Rhapsody Merge function.

When space is used for the character of SSID, Wi-Fi cannot be set.

Problem for Tuner preset memory when RDS is received.

Scroll speed of "Artist" becomes slow when playback music files with DLNA by network-audio.

Spelling error on web browser display. "Controler" > "Controller"

MVUP/down (master volume up/down) command can affect zone 2 volume if any zone 2 command has been recently sent.

No title via internet radio with the new firmware version 1.60.

When AVP-A1HDCI connects Marantz DV9500 with EXT.IN connection and chose "Monitor2", Sound output stops.

The disc where "Dolby Digital" and "TrueHD" are alternately recorded is reproduced. And, when "Dolby Digital" and "TrueHD" are promptly switched, the sound is not outputted.

When the stream signal of "DTS-HD MA 7.1ch" is reproduced by setting "5.1ch", the sound is distorted.

Noise occur from surround channel when playback a blue-ray disc "The Golden Compass" when connected AVP-A1HDCI and DVD3800BD.

The connectivity of "HDMI" and "CEC" is improved.


CAUSE: The malfunctions occurred due to bugs in the firmware.



COUNTERMEASURE: corrected the firmware so that no malfunction occurs.


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for translating the following from the Denon Japan website and for sharing this info:



Info added 08/10/08



Update #3 June 26, 2008



GUI shown some improvement.



Wireless LAN Settings some improvement.



Internet radio to play some improvement in information display.



specific voice to improve the operation of the disk format.



HDMI, CEC to improve connectivity


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for translating the following from the Denon Japan website and for sharing this info:



Info added 09/07/08


Update #4 August 29, 2008



Last 2-pixel cropping at 1080p.


Several pixels on the right hand side of the image are apparently gone or have been replaced with different information at 1080p.




Here is the translate firmware change log info for the AVP posted on Denon Japan website as of September 1, 2008 thought you guys might find useful:



AVP-A1HD

*latest update on the earlier apply*



2008/08/29




Scaling work better


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for translating the following from the Denon Japan website and for sharing this info:



Info added 09/22/08


Update #5 September 19, 2008




Internet radio is playing the power OFF / ON operation at the time was improved



USB memory to play music when the random behavior was improved.



WMA (Lossless) to improve the operation of playback time.



JPEG files with metadata work at the time of play has improved.



NET / USB function better in the aspect ratio has been set.



GUI has been showing some improvement.



Thanks to Gene DellaSalla from Audioholics for the following info:


This update has fixed the Net Radio issues many were having.


Denon also informed Gene of the following:


This update sets the AVP up for the October 1 upgrade of Dynamic Volume and Sirius Radio Ready features. If you go to ‘Add New Feature’ and press Enter, you should see a new page. Also depending on when you did your last update, it may have included the fix for 2 pixel cutoff on right side of image.


Gene also confirmed that Dynamic Volume & EQ will function for those using the Audyssey Pro Calibration kit with the computer software.


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info. (Update) Additional update info from Gene DellaSala from Audioholics.



Info added 10/01/08


Update #6 October 1, 2008 (approx. 110 minute update)



Here is the change log for North America AVP firmware update reported available October 1:



3-1. Additional of new features



1) SIRIUS Ready

Need to get optional Sirius Home Connect Tuner (plus subscription) with RS-232C connector



2) Audyssey Dynamic Volume

Note: No Audyssey recalibration is needed after the update

ii. In Surround Parameters section you will see new menu item for Audyssey with selections for MultEQ, Dynamic EQ and Volume

iii. Dynamic Volume has 4 settings

1. Day/Evening/Midnight/Off

2. Each settings has different desired listening level, so Day mode will have a higher range, while midnight will have the least




3) Improving of connectivity with ASD-11R

Operation with new iPod/iTouch/iPhone models when used with optional ASD-11R dock – Full audio and video output is now permitted with meta-data on GUI of AVP/AVR




4) Change the name of 2-way Remote in OPTION SETUP menu. (232C PORT(1))



5) Correspondent to Resolution of 1080p/24Hz

Adds scaling to 1080/24 from any analog/digital signals



3-2. Improvement of malfunction



1) The unit does not come back to the last state of playback when we turn off the power during playback Internet radio then turn on.



2) The customer has connected a "USB-Stick memory" with more than 4GB. Random-function of USB devices is not active.



3) Drop-outs via Ethernet playback from PC with "Windows Vista".



4) No playback of JPEG with Meta data.



5) Missing Aspect ratio setup for NET/USB source.



3-3. Improvement of GUI indication



1) Improvement of remote control receipt operation



a) To turn on the power supply of the unit in the standby by "INPUT SOURCE selection" button of remote control or "QuickSelect" code.



b) After the power supply of the unit had been turned on, the operation time by the remote control such as "INPUT SOURCE selection" button, "Surround mode", and "Master volume control" were shortened.



2) The display condition of "Subwoofer channel" of "DIRECT" and "STEREO mode" when 2ch is input is changed.



3) To turn off the channel indicator on the FL display when the subwoofer was not output.

(Subwoofer Mode : "LFE", Front Speaker: "Large")



4) The setting of "SB CH OUT" can be changed by operating "Standard" button at 5.1ch input.



5) When "PCM Multi Ch+Matrix" has been turned on, the surround mode display name is changed.



6) When the mastering volume is operated, the setting that displays "Volume display" of "GUI/OSD" in the screen upper row is added.

(A set value of Option/GUI/Master volume is changed to Bottom/Top/OFF.)


7) "Aspect setting item" is added to the "NET/USB" function. (SOURCE SELECT/NetUSB/video/Aspect)


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 10/29/08


Update #7 October 16, 2008 (approx. 65 minute update)



1) Translation mistake in German and other languages.



2) The GUI and OSD of the A/V amplifier doesn't operate correctly when the A/V amplifier is connected with "iPhone 3G".



3) Improvement of the Audyssey Dynamic Volume function. (For only PAY-Upgraded models.)


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 10/29/08


Update #8 October 27, 2008 (approx. 11 minute update)



Change log for update available October 27th for upgraded units.



1) If Volume of the unit is operated when the voice changes from "DIRECT mode" to "Another mode" when "DynamicEQ mode" is selected, the level might become large.



2) When the input signal is changed while displaying the Audyssey Setting screen of MENU, the key might not be able to be operated.


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 10/29/08


Update #9 November 28, 2008 (approx. 10 minute update)


fixed/improved:



When the Dolby TrueHD audio of "Batman Begins" reproduces, the noise is generated from "0h49m05s (Track 14)" in the output of "Surround channel and surround back channel"

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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 1/10/09


Update #10 January 6, 2009 (approx. 8 minute update)


fixed/improved:



After upgrade to A/V amplifier is the 7 Channel Stereo not selectable via Remote controller RC-1067 DSP-simulation


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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 5/20/09


Update #11 May 13, 2009 (approx. 40 minute update)


Denon firmware change log for this update reported available about May 13, 2009 (June 22, 2009 for North America):


1. Addition of function


1-1. DENON Link 4th function (When the power supply is turned on, "DENON LINK 4th" is displayed in FL).

1-2. The HDMI Assign function for CD input is added.


Other updates including the October 2008 release which added Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Sirius Radio Ready capabilities along with other improvements including updated iPod compatibility, 1080p/24f scaling and more is also included.


2. Improvement of problem


2-1. AVP-A1HD cannot be correctly controlled from RC-7000CI/7001RCI.

2-2. Neither Dynamic EQ nor the parameter button work after executing an auto setup with external MIC terminal V.AUX L.



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Thanks to captavs at AVS for sharing the following info.



Info added 07/30/09


Update #12 July 24, 2009 (approx. 11 minute update)



1- Sound is not outputted when play a specific disc with "DVD-A1UD" which is connected to A/V amplifier with "DENON LINK 4th".

2- "EVANGELION: 1.0 YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE" (KIAX-9). There is the case that a sound does not out right after started playback.

3- After main power off/on, Parameter check "DISTANCE" shows "SURR.BACK" speaker instead of "SUBWOOFER".



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How to initiate firmware update:


Turn off power of AVP-A1HDCI

Connect straight thru Ethernet cable from your router to the AVP-A1HDCI

Enter “Manual Setup” > “Option Setup” area of OSD

Select “Firmware update”


Do NOT use a wireless connection when updating firmware and make sure there are no power interruptions during this process. The update can take up to one hour which during the process will render your AVP-A1HDCI/ AVR-5308CI inoperable.

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While not as up to date as the info we have listed above and on our Wiki, here is the Denon Japan Firmware update listing page translated to English.

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

All new firmware update info available here is also available on our Wiki site.


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Here's a list of current and soon to be AVP and AVP/POA owners here on this thread.


AVP owners

Number of AVP owners: previous 72 (current 69)
  1. Waboman
  2. GoodSonics
  3. alebonau
  4. elockett
  5. progprog
  6. gimp
  7. Spearmint
  8. markrubin (ex-owner)
  9. dpowg
  10. Joe C5
  11. EricBergan
  12. tassop
  13. rnrgagne
  14. ohyeah32
  15. phastlane
  16. zeejayzee
  17. stenvik
  18. guapote
  19. orologio
  20. KX250F
  21. giomania (ex-owner)
  22. norpus
  23. ddimberio
  24. Curious George
  25. StephenBishop
  26. joeh71
  27. ChrisWiggles
  28. Wilfred
  29. hmuller
  30. markhal
  31. MC Maniac
  32. David Shapiro
  33. Adam_G
  34. cinemike
  35. Ian_Currie
  36. Jeff Owen
  37. fperra
  38. pers1 (ex-owner)
  39. JonFo
  40. bschaen
  41. ahr34
  42. tassop
  43. Krellav
  44. AVMN
  45. QueueCumber
  46. Aesculus
  47. lavan
  48. kcrowtroy
  49. misterdoggy
  50. Shutterman
  51. Gungadin
  52. djdmt
  53. Al Jones
  54. dbaydoun
  55. DigitalNut
  56. AudioBear
  57. BRADH
  58. beever (ex-owner)
  59. larryy
  60. wilsonj
  61. Aetherhole
  62. perrin21
  63. gchuva
  64. gaza916
  65. ctouhey
  66. grassy
  67. Krobar
  68. Nick Satullo
  69. AcuDefTechGuy
  70. ToolmanJohn
  71. jason shep
  72. WillyJ
  73. GlenC


AVP/POA owners

Number of AVP/POA owners: previous 30 (current 28)
  1. Franin
  2. MarkB (ex-owner)
  3. nethomas (ex-owner)
  4. pentium7
  5. danielo
  6. thebishman
  7. lectricman
  8. kyle333
  9. Jan T
  10. richard_onyschak
  11. ShaharT (2 POA-A1HD amps)
  12. bigimp65
  13. MrSTI
  14. djdna
  15. SmithMK (2 POA-A1HD amps)
  16. noobman
  17. Tom Blake
  18. gsr
  19. SJHT
  20. bankrupt
  21. jomark911
  22. RIK2
  23. onn
  24. robercy
  25. deckarep
  26. BrutaleZEN
  27. thrang
  28. frahengeo
  29. Svend P
  30. v8sam



Many more to be added soon.


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Denon AVP upgrade program

Below is where to see which owners are going to be getting their units upgraded.

Owners getting their units upgraded (22)

  1. gimp
  2. gsr
  3. deckarep
  4. aesculus
  5. PLA
  6. Daniel
  7. magking
  8. RNRGAGNE
  9. AudioBear
  10. bankrupt
  11. keithrj
  12. jason shep
  13. alebonau
  14. rrussell
  15. Digione
  16. JonFo
  17. boe
  18. grassy
  19. tassop
  20. jackox
  21. shyrix
  22. AVMN


Owners not getting their units upgraded




This site is dedicated to all things AVP/POA, please check it out.


Also checkout our new AVP and AVP/POA owners systems photo gallery thread here

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Professional Reviews:


Audioholics review of the Denon AVP-A1HDCI
Audioholics review of the Denon POA-A1HDCI
Home Cinema Choice Magazine review of the Denon AVP-A1HD/Denon POA-A1HD



Podcast interview with Jeff Talmadge (Denon's Director, Product Development & Systems Integration) discussing the AVP/POA and other great info:


Podcast interview with Denon's Jeff Talmadge
 

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Well now that there are some of us that actually own this amazing pre/pro, it's now time to officially get this thread started.

Yay! Count me in! Thanks for starting it....
 

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At first I thought that I would have never purchased it because of the size and because of too many features that I would never use... I don't have a dedicated HT room but a living room with four full range speakers and a subwoofer. It seemed to me an overkill. But, after reading posts in the introductory forum and the lack of "smaller packages" at the moment, I decided to buy it and I did. It should arrive in a couple of weeks if all goes well.

Thanks for your inputs guys.
 

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Well now that there are some of us that actually own this amazing pre/pro, it's now time to officially get this thread started.

Excellent!! Can't wait for mine to arrive so I can join the party.
 
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Good on you Seth for starting it, This will be the one I will be hanging out in now.Still awaiting mine.
 

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Thanks for starting it Seth and taking the responsibility of updating your initial post with useful info for both owners and would be owners..


I assume we will just add in any discussions about the matching amp into this thread?
 

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Thanks for starting it Seth and taking the responsibility of updating your initial post with useful info for both owners and would be owners..


I assume we will just add in any discussions about the matching amp into this thread?

Definetley for both
 

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...I assume we will just add in any discussions about the matching amp into this thread?

I have been thinking about this too. 95% of the settings of the AVC/AVR/AVP are the same, so the amp guys can learn alot from us and vice versa.


Anyway here is a picture of my setup at the moment. No stand yet so the AVP and POA are on the floor on granite tiles. I designed my own stand and I am having it delivered next week. The POA is configured in bridged balanced mode for the 802Ds, and I am going to test bi-amp mode and bridged balanced bi-amp mode on Saturday afternoon!


My current system is:


AVP-A1HD

POA-A1HD

B&W 802D

PS3

SkyHD

Dell XPS 1730 and 24" 1920x1200 monitor

QED Genesis Silver Spiral speaker cable





Want list:


2 more 802D
HTM1D

1 more POA-A1HD
2 x ASW855
Denon DCD-SA1

Denon BDP-A1HD universal player


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I'm here

Enjoying the beast more and more as I unlock its many secret places
 

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That sounds like a great idea!
Will definitely change the title to include the amp as well.

Seth, I too want to thank you for starting this thread. I'm on the fence concerning the AVP and plan to use it mainly for 2/multi-channel music and occasionally for HT. Have you had much time to play with streaming lossless audio and if yes, how to you like the AVP's interface for viewing and managing content?


Thanks again.


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I'm here

Enjoying the beast more and more as I unlock its many secret places

hope to soon join you guys here ! though suspect still quite a few weeks away



in the mean time, till get mine, will sit back watch you guys lead the way....and hopefully learn from what you discover
 

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Great... This thread will be helpful for the new owners.


Eric,


I am not Seth, but I will chime in about the Network audio. I am streaming .flac files from my NAS drive (that runs Twonky). The Sound Quality is very good. It beat my Sonus system. I am assuming that this is becuase the Sonus system uses a coaxial out and could be affected by jitter a bit. The sonus also could use a better power supply. the sonus is very convienient, but the AVP has a more pure sound. It provides an expansive soundstage.


The Interface is OK. I have been spoiled by the Sonus' Ipod like interface. The Denon is limited by its 5 key setup. It is a basic text type interface. It seems to suffice for small to medium music collections. I wouldn't want to scroll through a huge collection though. My collection is ~150 CD right now and the Denon interface is fine for that.


Darrell


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Seth, I too want to thank you for starting this thread. I'm on the fence concerning the AVP and plan to use it mainly for 2/multi-channel music and occasionally for HT. Have you had much time to play with streaming lossless audio and if yes, how to you like the AVP's interface for viewing and managing content?


Thanks again.


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I'll start the ***** session


One of the problems with the pre and remote is the labelling of the inputs. Why would they bother with VCR in this day and age? If I was using a VCR, I doubt I'd be using HDMI as an input.


Anyway I've renamed a few of my inputs to Sonos' HD-DVD' Blu Ray' HD-STB', then I forget which is which on the remote and tend to find it easier to rotate the input select dial on the pre.
 

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The Interface is OK. I have been spoiled by the Sonus' Ipod like interface. The Denon is limited by its 5 key setup. It is a basic text type interface. It seems to suffice for small to medium music collections. I wouldn't want to scroll through a huge collection though. My collection is ~150 CD right now and the Denon interface is fine for that.


Darrell

I just picked up my Denon today and started playing with it, but I have to agree right away about the network audio. I have hundreds of CDs ripped onto a NAS (flac files), and having tested various network players, nothing came close to Sonos usability. That hasn't changed. While the Denon has built in streaming capability, I don't think they meant to compete with dedicated players like the Sonos. It's a pretty crude interface.


In my HT, where I have my best equipment (even for 2 ch listening), I've had a ZP80 connected via optical cable to my receiver. Sonos' biggest plus and limitation remain the same with the Denon, where it's now connected via digital coax to the CD input. You must still use its interface (either the handheld remote or the desktop controller) for navigation. But this is a relatively small price for the far-friendlier GUI it offers. And honestly, it has never sounded better....


Where I think the streaming capability will more likely shine is internet radio. (Well, to the extent that internet radio can shine...it's pretty compressed.) I have yet to play with that, as there is some set-up involved on a Denon website, but I'll report back on that if anyone is interested.
 

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The Denon remotes are not much. Get a universal like the 880 or 890 and forget about the Denon. The way I look at it is for a 7k price a nice pre programmed universal should be included. Heck, raise the price $300 and include one.
 

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I'll start the ***** session


One of the problems with the pre and remote is the labelling of the inputs. Why would they bother with VCR in this day and age? If I was using a VCR, I doubt I'd be using HDMI as an input.


Anyway I've renamed a few of my inputs to Sonos' HD-DVD' Blu Ray' HD-STB', then I forget which is which on the remote and tend to find it easier to rotate the input select dial on the pre.

Isn't that always the case with manufacturers' remotes, though? They never seem to show the new input names. I think they assume anyone with this kind of equipment operates it with some fancy universal remote that incorporates the features the user wants.


My gripe (not just with the Denon): Why the hell do they put so many RCA and S-Video inputs on a unit like this?? The back is always full of these things! And you're right....VCR? How 1997....


P.S. What's HD-STB? I'm sure it's obvious, but I don't know that one.
 

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I tried adding the A1HDCI, and it told me there was a device in its library called and AVP A1.


Do any of you Harmony remote users have your remote working with the AVP? If so, do you have any tips/suggestions?


Thanks,

Darrell
 

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I tried adding the A1HDCI, and it told me there was a device in its library called and AVP A1.


Do any of you Harmony remote users have your remote working with the AVP? If so, do you have any tips/suggestions?


Thanks,

Darrell

Isn't the "AVP A1" option correct?

Comment: I just pulled up the Hrmony software and attempted to add the AVP. At first blush, it looks like that AVP A1 is the correct device. The standard buttons look right and is has about 14 pages of soft buttons. Sounds about right!
 
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