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What or whose settings are you guys using for regular cable/Blu-ray and 4K/HDR viewing? Thanks
Not sure if my answer relates to what you are looking for, I adjusted my proj settings with mix of HarperVison (digital Cinema) + Oledurt (Bright Cinema) (Harper Vision and Oledurt are members of this forum who posted their calibrated settings)
 

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Hi all,

New member here, but I have something to contribute here.
I noticed a lot of people complaining about poor 3D performance, especially 3D ghosting and crosstalk with he Epson TW 9300/5040ub/6040ub.
I had severe ghosting with my Epson TW9300. I couldn't adjust the settings to get a good 3D picture using the screen size and 3D depth. Either the front of the image was perfect, but then the back was a big mess and vise versa. It drove me nuts for months.
Yesterday, just before sending the projector in for warranty I finally found what was causing these problems, and I havent seen this mentioned here before.

Its the IRIS! If the iris is on in 3D playback it causes severe 3D ghosting/crosstalk.

When i turned the iris off, all the ghosting/crosstalk was gone. Blu Rays like Rogue One, who were unwatchable before now played back in amazing image quality.
No ghosting whatsoever. The 3D performance is jaw dropping good.

In 3D, just switch off the iris and see what happens!
Thanks @Lennaert, after just stopping to watch any 3D, I can finally re-start enjoying them. Turning off iris in 3D works for me, at least where 3D is watchable & not a horrible crosstalk / ghosting mess! I had even bought a brand new unit, which also suffered from the same problem. This was just to rule out that my current 5040UB unit wasn't the issue.

Tried a BenQ HT2550, which has a big 3D problem of its own. I flagged the issue & now BenQ is fixing via f/w & a new circuit board before re-shipping. W/3D for me now w/iris off on 5040UB, it's so much better, I may stick w/it vs. re-buying BenQ or Optoma UHD51A. Did want to say, I still see minor crosstalk / ghosting w/5040UB, but overall it's a better PJ (shaprness, contrast, blacks, 4K HDR) than BenQ.
 

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Hi,

XBOX S seems to have compatibility issues with Epson (4000, 5040, 6040). No matter what I do and what streaming app I use (Netflix, Amazon, Movies & TV) I always see
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Color: BT709 8 bit SDR
Chroma: 4.2.0

Clearly, not good. There are various threads started asking Netflix, XBOX etc. to address this issue. The core issue lies in streaming apps itself and not XBOX. (see below links).

For now, I manually went to Epson Menu->Signal->Advanced->Color Space and changed from Auto to BT2020. This improved color a bit.


What BD HDR players truly work with Epson ?

Is Philips BDP 7501 the only one ? Sadly, it only has two apps (Netflix and YouTube).
 

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It appears with both BDP 7501 and Samsung 8500 you are getting chroma sampling of 4.2.2 the best.

What is preventing Epson to go to 4.4.4. ? I want to get to 4K with 4.4.4 and BT2020 HDR for both streaming apps and disks.

Thanks
 

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Samsung 8500 does a pretty good job streaming and has more apps.

Only problem I've had was when streaming 60 fps. it won't convert to 24/30 and advertised. When viewing 4K UHD HDR, this is a problem with the 5040..

Check it our on their thread... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2325089-official-samsung-ubd-k8500-4k-hdr-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-owner-s-thread-456.html

In that case you were not able to get HDR with Netflix or other streaming apps correct ?
 

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Not sure if my answer relates to what you are looking for, I adjusted my proj settings with mix of HarperVison (digital Cinema) + Oledurt (Bright Cinema) (Harper Vision and Oledurt are members of this forum who posted their calibrated settings)
Thanks. Do you use these settings for regular cable/Blu-ray or 4K/HDR? Or both?
 

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Cant seem to get anything to show 16:9

Just set up 5040 with Elite 120in 16:9 screen. Everything I have tried to play so far which is cable through Uverse and Netflix through Apple TV all has small black bars on top and bottom. The alignment pattern fills the screen. Is this normal? It wont let me choose anything other than Normal on Lens/Zoom. Im a rookie, thanks for input.
 

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Oledurt settings still beat HV at gaming...and this is with contrast clipping at 1000 and I think he has his clipping at 1200.

Harper vision top
Oledurt bottom


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Oledurt settings still beat HV at gaming...and this is with contrast clipping at 1000 and I think he has his clipping at 1200.

Harper vision top
Oledurt bottom


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These where zoomed in with phone so much clearer in person lol

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Also with the Sony X800 Blu-ray player...but I rarely use it since the Netflix UI makes for a wonky affair. I can't get my Roku Premiere+ to do this.

I have the same combo, normally can't get HDR out of Netflix with the X800/5040 but did it get it at 24 Hz just like your pic with Cloverfield Paradox but haven't seen it with anything else yet I think because they're in 60 Hz which the Epson can't do HDR with. What were you watching when you took this screen print?
 

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Going over Epson's manual this is what it has

L*a*b* Ultra Wide Color Gamut — delivers 100% of the 3 dimensional DCI-P3 color gamut ^3, the digital cinema standard, with 50% wider color gamut than Rec. 709.

^3 Entire DCI color space can be displayed in Digital Cinema Mode only.


P3 color space is the Film industry standard but BT2020 has more colors than P3 ?

Which mode do you all use ? Default is "Bright Cinema"


https://www.cnet.com/how-to/what-is-wide-color-gamut-wcg/
 

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Thanks @Lennaert, after just stopping to watch any 3D, I can finally re-start enjoying them. Turning off iris in 3D works for me, at least where 3D is watchable & not a horrible crosstalk / ghosting mess! I had even bought a brand new unit, which also suffered from the same problem. This was just to rule out that my current 5040UB unit wasn't the issue.

Tried a BenQ HT2550, which has a big 3D problem of its own. I flagged the issue & now BenQ is fixing via f/w & a new circuit board before re-shipping. W/3D for me now w/iris off on 5040UB, it's so much better, I may stick w/it vs. re-buying BenQ or Optoma UHD51A. Did want to say, I still see minor crosstalk / ghosting w/5040UB, but overall it's a better PJ (shaprness, contrast, blacks, 4K HDR) than BenQ.
FWIW I also disabled the iris which seemed to help, but increasing my reported screen size to 140" (actual is 110") removed the crosstalk completely with the few discs I've tested (Rogue One, Ant-Man, Ghostbusters 2016).
 

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I have the same combo, normally can't get HDR out of Netflix with the X800/5040 but did it get it at 24 Hz just like your pic with Cloverfield Paradox but haven't seen it with anything else yet I think because they're in 60 Hz which the Epson can't do HDR with. What were you watching when you took this screen print?
As far as I know all streaming services (Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, VUDU, etc) go out as 24p. When devices receive the stream most convert to 60 Hz unless they have the capability to leave the signal as 24p. Some devices like the newer Roku's can now be set to match the original frame rate but this sometimes introduces problems depending on hardware.

The screenshot was from the Netflix Original Mindhunter. What Netflix encodes as 24p, 12 bit 4:2:2 BT.2020 HDR is a whole other issue, they are inconsistent at best.
 

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Hi—Sorry if this is the wrong forum in which to ask this, but i have two questions related to the 5040UB.

One, the room I have is small, but IF I place the back half of the projector in the window well, I can get up to a 10 foot throw (otherwise it'd be a 113 inch throw), which gets me a 100 inch diagonal image. Unfortunately, this places the projector about 24 inches off-center (maybe a bit less than this, but go with me for now).

However, with horizontal lens shift, I can move the lens 30% to the right, which puts it in the center. Does anyone on this forum use their 5040UB with a similar horizontal shift? I know I lose some vertical shift as I take up more horizontal, but since the 5040UB has 47% horizontal shift I assume I still have some give with the vertical shift.

Relatedly, does anyone have experience placing the projector against a window or wall? I know the manual indicates that there should be some clearance, but I'm trying to get away with as little as possible, at least for the back half of the projector (7-8 inches).
 

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In that case you were not able to get HDR with Netflix or other streaming apps correct ?
I could play Netflix 4K UHD HDR at 24fps. (which is most of their content.) Just not 60 fps..

I don't do a lot of streameng. Mostly 4K and 1080P Blu Ray disks..
 

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FWIW I also disabled the iris which seemed to help, but increasing my reported screen size to 140" (actual is 110") removed the crosstalk completely with the few discs I've tested (Rogue One, Ant-Man, Ghostbusters 2016).
You're right, this helps additionally. I have a 100" screen and I choose 140" and ghosting/crosstalk are further reduced, most times non-existent. Thanks!

Weird how this and disabling auto iris do the trick, but they do!
 

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Ok i am going to try with Nvidia Shield !
Hi from Portugal! ;)
I get the same projector and the same problem with the Zidoo X10. I think that might be from the Realtek SoC and also the Epson because the projector cannot accept 4k at 4.4.4 12 bit and those are the settings you might need to use to eliminate banding. The Epson TW9300 have HDMI limited to 10.2 Gbps, so it support only 4.2.2 at 12 bit @ max 25 hz.
Set Color depth: 12bit and [email protected] hz to watch UHD 10 bit movie. You have to live with the banding effect. Some movie are worse than others and you'll notice it more in blue skies and foggy environments.
 

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I have both nVidia Shield & Zidoo X9S... I get perfect HDR and no banding w/Epson 5040UB...

> nVidia Shield: [email protected] (@23.976/24/30 also work), then pick 4:2:2 12-bit Rec2020 in the HDMI advanced menu

> Zidoo X9S: 3840x2160p/24 / 12-bit / YCbCr 4:2:0 / limited HDMI range

Only [email protected] HDR/10bit is rendered in 8-bit due to 10.2Gbps limitation.
 
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