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Are you referring to the 6050 or the 5050 here? The 5050 is not $4K
I looked heavily into getting a JVC before I bought my 5040. From my research, JVCs have their own failures and are by no means perfect. Plus their replacement bulbs are around $600 each.

FWIW, if my 5040 dies in a couple of years, I'll just pick up another refurb Epson. It won't be the best looking projector, but it's pretty damn good and I didn't spend $5-10K on something that'll be outdated in a few years.
Yes, I should have specified. For JVC's on the same level as Epson, Epson refurbs vs. JVC lowest retail, is like a $3000 difference.
This is Canadian current pricing right off a vendor website. If you read these older reviews:

https://www.tvspecialists.com/jvc-lx-uh1-vs-epson-5040ub-vs-optoma-uhd65/

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https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-5040ub-vs-Optoma-UHD65-review.htm


You'll see that all 3 of these projectors were compared head to head, with the Optoma almost seeming to take the lead. Right now the 5040 is NLA brand new, but the refurb is $1500cdn. The 5050 sells for $4000cdn on sale. The JVC LXUH1 is $2250cdn on sale and the Optoma UHD65 is $3500cdn not on sale. Of the 3 compared head to head, they concluded that the 5040 was more or less on par with the JVC and the Optoma took the lead by a smidge overall.

So yes, the refurb is the cheapest, but for a discount you are entering into the horrible refurb roulette - and they're not the best projector even brand new. Factor in horrific customer support and I understand the JVC has some setup things included to help you set up the picture. I know the 5040 won a lot of people over for pure value, but is it worth buying something that will likely cause you grief? Maybe just suck it up and hold out another year or two as real 4k HDR projectors become commonplace. Now that I re-read these reviews, perhaps I should have got the Optoma instead of the Epson. What I do know is that Epson service and product has not really won me over, I will certainly consider other brands over the Epson next time around. I'm not looking forward to being without mine for a few weeks when I send it out for repair with under 400 hours on it!
 

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I'm not looking forward to being without mine for a few weeks when I send it out for repair with under 400 hours on it!
Sorry, it just sounds like you're upset with your purchase. Which is understandable. But that doesn't really justify coming into an owners' thread and trying to dissuade people from buying the projectors that they obviously like as this is an owner's thread, not a refurb pricing thread. I bought a refurb and tested it about 10 hours before starting my build, and it looked stellar. The bulb had zero hours on it. Sure there may be a few lemons, but overall I don't think it's really widespread. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and also writes the reviews. DLP vs 3LCD is also not apples to apples.

In this forum, if you're interested in a JVC you're probably looking at the $5K+ models. The 5040UB even brand new is less than half that.
 

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Well, despite some of the negativity here, I pulled the trigger and bought a refurb 6040UB from Epson Canada Clearance center. I loved my DLP, but the blacks and contrast are piss poor and I'm sorry, but I doubt you'll get a picture that comes even close to the 6040 on DLP with a comparable price. It has super easy placement flexibility which DLP's don't typically have, and this one has anamorphic mode so I can still use my anamorphic lens to keep the brightness on my scope screen. Yes, I'm a bit worried about dust blobs and failure rate (bloody hell, why can't they seal the light path like DLP?), but it does have a 3 year warranty and I will milk it if I have to in order to get a properly working unit. Wish me luck. I will post some before and after pics (no, it's not fair as I have an older DLP model in the Optoma HD3300, but it is what it is). Stay tuned!
 
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I have a chance to pick up a 5040ub used for $950. Should I jump on this or play the waiting game for refurbished units to show up again. It has 600 hours on the lamp.
Sorry, it just sounds like you're upset with your purchase. Which is understandable. But that doesn't really justify coming into an owners' thread and trying to dissuade people from buying the projectors that they obviously like as this is an owner's thread, not a refurb pricing thread. I bought a refurb and tested it about 10 hours before starting my build, and it looked stellar. The bulb had zero hours on it. Sure there may be a few lemons, but overall I don't think it's really widespread. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and also writes the reviews. DLP vs 3LCD is also not apples to apples.
In this forum, if you're interested in a JVC you're probably looking at the $5K+ models. The 5040UB even brand new is less than half that.
While it seems I'm just on a rant - in fact all I have answered "Antec" with my opinion. I've done nothing wrong or inappropriate here, except to try to educate people including links from authoritative sources. This thread is for the Epson units, and the center of the conversation is the Epson unit. Without reference to put everything in prospective, how can anyone say we are doing justice to the thread? Right now in Canada the JVC is $750 more brand new than the Epson refurb which is not huge considering you get a brand new unit. Also, the websites compared these units head to head and rated them extremely close in performance (of course with each having pros and cons). Your opinion that I have not compared apples to apples appears incorrect as people who get paid to review these things say otherwise. As I said, I am no expert - which is why I have offered the links to people who are. I may be on a rant, but how many people have you counted regarding the Epson refurb routlette? The list is huge, on almost every page there is negative comments on them. How should we have done justice to "Antec"s question, simply say "no" and let him figure out why on his own?

Sorry for appearing rude, I guess I took the comment more personal than I should have. In conclusion, when I ask people for help, I expect them to help me with fact and experience - not give me what I want to hear to shut me up.
 

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I may be on a rant, but how many people have you counted regarding the Epson refurb routlette?
I count in this thread, the thread for the refurb purchasing:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/199-front-projectors-great-found-deals/3059050-refurbished-epson-5040ub-1-151-00-a.html

As of late there have been a few people with dust issues, but I've been on this thread for months and I haven't seen much more than that.

If you're looking to by an Epson refurb, you're looking to spend $1150, and get the same two year warranty that comes with it new. spending another 75% of that towards a JVC for "pretty much the exact some scores' as you say, doesn't seem cost effective at all. Cost effectiveness is the reason people by refurbs over new. Otherwise they would just buy new.
 

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I count in this thread, the thread for the refurb purchasing:
If you're looking to by an Epson refurb, you're looking to spend $1150, and get the same two year warranty that comes with it new. spending another 75% of that towards a JVC for "pretty much the exact some scores' as you say, doesn't seem cost effective at all. Cost effectiveness is the reason people by refurbs over new. Otherwise they would just buy new.
You do of course make a good point, It's my personality if I'm going to spend a lot of money, I often will not go through with my original choice when I think about the fact I will have things for many years and a little more money will make all the difference.
I have a question for you as you have been doing lots of research in the refurb thread. Have you seen any comments about the 5040 brightness going up and down constantly? Mine is doing it on ECO, but then another person in the thread said his is doing it and is on NORMAL. It's driving my wife and I mad, have to get it repaired. I tried fiddling with iris settings and even turned it off then on and used HDMI2 also. When I set mine to NORMAL the problem finally went away, but considering the other member I imagine as it worsens it will start doing it on NORMAL too. None-the-less, my PJ is set up for ECO and would prefer to keep it there. It almost sounds like a bulb issue, but with 350 hours? Epson won't offer up any info, just said to either take a refurb (which I won't do) or send it in for repairs.
 

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You do of course make a good point, It's my personality if I'm going to spend a lot of money, I often will not go through with my original choice when I think about the fact I will have things for many years and a little more money will make all the difference.
I have a question for you as you have been doing lots of research in the refurb thread. Have you seen any comments about the 5040 brightness going up and down constantly? Mine is doing it on ECO, but then another person in the thread said his is doing it and is on NORMAL. It's driving my wife and I mad, have to get it repaired. I tried fiddling with iris settings and even turned it off then on and used HDMI2 also. When I set mine to NORMAL the problem finally went away, but considering the other member I imagine as it worsens it will start doing it on NORMAL too. None-the-less, my PJ is set up for ECO and would prefer to keep it there. It almost sounds like a bulb issue, but with 350 hours? Epson won't offer up any info, just said to either take a refurb (which I won't do) or send it in for repairs.
I haven't, and I'm not expert on projectors - it sounds like a power conditioning issue though - what is your projector plugged into? Is there something power hungry on the same circuit like a refrigerator or A/C unit that might cycle on and off?
 

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Alright, so I'm anxiously awaiting my refurbished 6040UB. I bought an Oppo 203 just before they went belly up in their blu ray player division (read: I bought it when it was a normal price). For those who have had a chance to compare the Oppo to the Panasonic 420 or 820, would it be beneficial for me to sell my Oppo and get one of those models to complement the 6040 or is the Oppo up to the task of making the 6040 look the best it can be?
 
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Congrats blaster! The Oppo 203 is one heck of a player, but from the reviews I read the Panny 820 actually bests it in the PQ department. It's really the HDR optimiser that sets it apart though. This actually makes HDR usable and will make your 4k discs really shine.

The only area the Oppo still beats it is in network streaming. They can handle everything however the Panny won't do Atmos on mkv etc.

Now I don't have one, so this is just from reading and owning a Panny 820.

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Alright, so I'm anxiously awaiting my refurbished 6040UB. I bought an Oppo 203 just before they went belly up in their blu ray player division (read: I bought it when it was a normal price). For those who have had a chance to compare the Oppo to the Panasonic 420 or 820, would it be beneficial for me to sell my Oppo and get one of those models to complement the 6040 or is the Oppo up to the task of making the 6040 look the best it can be?
As Brettmckinney said, a good tone mapper is essential if the source, disc or streaming, is HDR.
 

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I haven't, and I'm not expert on projectors - it sounds like a power conditioning issue though - what is your projector plugged into? Is there something power hungry on the same circuit like a refrigerator or A/C unit that might cycle on and off?
I highjacked a baseboard heater circuit that the house had when we moved in and built the theater. I am using the circuit strictly for A/V and nothing else - no lights, outlets, etc. If there was any problem at all, would have to be right from the panel - but I doubt it. Power conditioning is an interesting thought but as it does not happen on NORMAL I think it must reside as a problem within the unit.
 

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Hey folks. Long time lurker. Had my Epson 5040UB for about a year now. Recently I noticed a yellow area in the projected image. Weird. Its not the screen itself as it shrinks as I shrink the image. Tried changing bulbs. What are your suggestions? Projector is in warranty still

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Az52YPORZvSzkSAptpMbYaMliHnV7HLK
 

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Hey folks. Long time lurker. Had my Epson 5040UB for about a year now. Recently I noticed a yellow area in the projected image. Weird. Its not the screen itself as it shrinks as I shrink the image. Tried changing bulbs. What are your suggestions? Projector is in warranty still

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Az52YPORZvSzkSAptpMbYaMliHnV7HLK
Looks like your LCD panel may have started to fail. How often did you clean the filter? If there isn’t enough air flow, the lcds in the light engine tends to over heat and cause discolouration.

I’d call Epson and they’ll prob send you a replacement.
 

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Looks like your LCD panel may have started to fail. How often did you clean the filter? If there isn’t enough air flow, the lcds in the light engine tends to over heat and cause discolouration.

I’d call Epson and they’ll prob send you a replacement.
Thanks for the reply. I spoke to Epson and they said I am liable for the costs to fix it. I admitted I was the second owner of the projector. Perhaps I shouldn't. I cleaned it regularly but I guess maybe not enough

Is the LCD changeable?
 

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Thanks for the reply. I spoke to Epson and they said I am liable for the costs to fix it. I admitted I was the second owner of the projector. Perhaps I shouldn't. I cleaned it regularly but I guess maybe not enough

Is the LCD changeable?
I haven't researched the 5040 myself, but in the 5030 the entire light engine has to be replaced. Depending on how bad it is, I'd ask Epson how much a replacement light engine costs.
 

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Much appreciated! I read mixed reviews for the YOSUN bulb, has anyone tried them?
I've tried some random bulbs with high reviews with my older Epson projector and they just aren't great. If you can, I would stick with OE Epson bulbs. They are relatively inexpensive compared to JVC bulbs.
 

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I've tried some random bulbs with high reviews with my older Epson projector and they just aren't great. If you can, I would stick with OE Epson bulbs. They are relatively inexpensive compared to JVC bulbs.

I dont think I can buy it from Epson website (UK). Any place reliable to buy it from?
 

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You do of course make a good point, It's my personality if I'm going to spend a lot of money, I often will not go through with my original choice when I think about the fact I will have things for many years and a little more money will make all the difference.
I have a question for you as you have been doing lots of research in the refurb thread. Have you seen any comments about the 5040 brightness going up and down constantly? Mine is doing it on ECO, but then another person in the thread said his is doing it and is on NORMAL. It's driving my wife and I mad, have to get it repaired. I tried fiddling with iris settings and even turned it off then on and used HDMI2 also. When I set mine to NORMAL the problem finally went away, but considering the other member I imagine as it worsens it will start doing it on NORMAL too. None-the-less, my PJ is set up for ECO and would prefer to keep it there. It almost sounds like a bulb issue, but with 350 hours? Epson won't offer up any info, just said to either take a refurb (which I won't do) or send it in for repairs.
What you are experiencing is inherent in UHP Lamp projectors. I have had it at some point in varying severity with all 4 of my projectors over the last decade.

These lamps when brand new, need to ideally be placed in High lamp mode to create a proper arch inside them, for many hours (I don’t remember exactly, but please google it or search this site for lamp flicker or fluctuation). Once set, you can now bring it down in power. The lower the power, the less stable the power flow can become inside the lamp.

So now that most of us probably didn’t do this, don’t fret. Put your PJ in high lamp mode for a week (I know the fans are loud, but they do spin down a bit afterwards, and this is for the greater good). Then you are kind of re-training the arch inside. Rinse and repeat if issue comes back.

Please forgive any inaccuracies to my electrician friends...this is just how I remember the info that helped me when my first DLP PJ developed a pretty annoying case of lamp brightness fluctuation.
 
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