Official GOOGLE TV Thread
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This post explains what it does and doesn't do... more or less a front-end interface.
http://www.slashgear.com/google-tv-g...icial-2086415/
This post explains what it does and doesn't do... more or less a front-end interface.
http://www.slashgear.com/google-tv-g...icial-2086415/
I see no reason why apps, perhaps web-based, couldn't be developed to serve up media stored on our LANs as well.
Heck, they could even index the metadata for our stored Movies and TV shows to include in the search results on the homepage.
The existing GoogleTV hardware and OS could easily handle it.
One can dream, right?
Heck, they could even index the metadata for our stored Movies and TV shows to include in the search results on the homepage.
The existing GoogleTV hardware and OS could easily handle it.
One can dream, right?
I'm starting to warm to the idea of Google TV (although in truth I've read very little about how they plan to make it actually work.)
I don't think it will be this magical do-it-all-in-one box that everyone around here seems to keep looking for in vein. However, it may become something that is worthy of setting next to another box or two in the cabinet.
A year ago, I never thought I would bother getting programs for a cell phone, now that I've had a smartphone for a time, I am impressed with how many little programs I have become grateful for. Google TV could do this, just as they have done with Android. The big question is how useful this will be when the screen is now bolted to the wall, instead of always by your side in your pants pocket.
As suggested before, the limits will really be based on the hardware capabilities of the box, but also the amount of muscle Google puts behind getting content owners to play nice, and the flexibility of the APIs that Google makes available.
Yeah a HTPC can probably still do all the things that GoogleTV will be able to do, but 1) the framework can be more consistent if all apps are developed/compiled specifically for one piece of hardware; 2) a lot of people out there are not going to set up their own HTPC, but would be interested in GoogleTV.
Being able to load a Netflix app that not only gives you full 10UI to On Demand stuff, but also gives you access to manage your disc queue that would be good. A Hulu app that gives you full 10 UI to your hulu + subscription (assuming you want to pay hulu $10 a month) that would be good too. Full BR support w/ bitstreaming of all audio formats, highly doubtful, but probably not the intended market anyway.
-Suntan
I don't think it will be this magical do-it-all-in-one box that everyone around here seems to keep looking for in vein. However, it may become something that is worthy of setting next to another box or two in the cabinet.
A year ago, I never thought I would bother getting programs for a cell phone, now that I've had a smartphone for a time, I am impressed with how many little programs I have become grateful for. Google TV could do this, just as they have done with Android. The big question is how useful this will be when the screen is now bolted to the wall, instead of always by your side in your pants pocket.
As suggested before, the limits will really be based on the hardware capabilities of the box, but also the amount of muscle Google puts behind getting content owners to play nice, and the flexibility of the APIs that Google makes available.
Yeah a HTPC can probably still do all the things that GoogleTV will be able to do, but 1) the framework can be more consistent if all apps are developed/compiled specifically for one piece of hardware; 2) a lot of people out there are not going to set up their own HTPC, but would be interested in GoogleTV.
Being able to load a Netflix app that not only gives you full 10UI to On Demand stuff, but also gives you access to manage your disc queue that would be good. A Hulu app that gives you full 10 UI to your hulu + subscription (assuming you want to pay hulu $10 a month) that would be good too. Full BR support w/ bitstreaming of all audio formats, highly doubtful, but probably not the intended market anyway.
-Suntan
this will bring lots of content all together
for most people this is enough
web+tv
but i don't think it will allow streaming from video files (NAS, local)
Sony is a main supporter of hardware & they need HDCP _everything_
when firmware is open summer'11 -maybe. Till then let's see what happens =)
for most people this is enough
web+tv
but i don't think it will allow streaming from video files (NAS, local)
Sony is a main supporter of hardware & they need HDCP _everything_
when firmware is open summer'11 -maybe. Till then let's see what happens =)
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Is this what the Google TV is about? I heard Google partnered with Logitech... so the Logitech is making the hardware and Google is providing service? Logitech Revue - could anyone find any specs on it?
At least the box looks sexy...
Check it out:
http://blog.logitech.com/2010/06/16/...ith-google-tv/
At least the box looks sexy...
Check it out:
http://blog.logitech.com/2010/06/16/...ith-google-tv/
All the devices that are meant to bring tv and internet together will fail unless they provide a true replacement for cable/satellite, namely, a full line-up of programs found on live tv channels. Google TV doesn't look like it will do that. Running on top of existing cable service is not good enough. Cable/satellite should be eliminated altogether for the additional box to work.
The box doesn't even have to stream everything live; it could just send a file with a show with a several-minute delay to prevent buffering. That would be acceptable. Call it "IPTV-DVR". It should be a hulu-like model but with all the regular news, sports and entertainment shows that hulu doesn't provide. I would buy such a box in a second and so would millions of other people who are stuck with cable/satellite service.
The box doesn't even have to stream everything live; it could just send a file with a show with a several-minute delay to prevent buffering. That would be acceptable. Call it "IPTV-DVR". It should be a hulu-like model but with all the regular news, sports and entertainment shows that hulu doesn't provide. I would buy such a box in a second and so would millions of other people who are stuck with cable/satellite service.
The hardware may not allow for PCM, but LPCM may be possible; and folks like you and I could be the driving force behind a downloadable app to do just that, and more. I think the Android Market is the key to seeing Googles' and our own visions converge into one do-it-all device.
All it would take is an affordable Media Center app to interface with our Windows Media Center systems and/or media servers directly. Apps like that already exist, but they're all proprietary crap that is reserved for the "professional integrators" and their customers who have money to burn.
Imagine, for a moment, a complete media interface that offers the same experience on your iPhone, your wife's Android Phone, your son's Win7 tablet, your daughter's laptop, and the GoogleTV boxes underneath each of your displays... THAT is what I'm dreaming about.
If you build it, they will come...
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The hardware may not allow for PCM, but LPCM may be possible; and folks like you and I could be the driving force behind a downloadable app to do just that, and more. I think the Android Market is the key to seeing Googles' and our own visions converge into one do-it-all device.
All it would take is an affordable Media Center app to interface with our Windows Media Center systems and/or media servers directly. Apps like that already exist, but they're all proprietary crap that is reserved for the "professional integrators" and their customers who have money to burn.
Imagine, for a moment, a complete media interface that offers the same experience on your iPhone, your wife's Android Phone, your son's Win7 tablet, your daughter's laptop, and the GoogleTV boxes underneath each of your displays... THAT is what I'm dreaming about.
If you build it, they will come...
Well, I'm really not all that emphatic about getting *one* component to do everything, all the time. Although I only have one box attached to the TV now to get DVR/movies/internet streaming/etc. *If* Google TV came out with compelling applications and if a separate box was needed to get it, I'd be perfectly fine adding a second box. That's why I got a good universal remote, so that multiple boxes act just like one system when you are watching the TV.
If SageTV comes out with a smart phone app, I'll have that as I already have the same, interconnected interface on all my TVs, my desktop and my laptop. Honestly, the more I think about GoogleTV, if they come out with a box that tries to mimic the umpteen thousand different network streamers, cable boxes, etc. it will be a failure. Personally, I'd rather they spend time coming out with compelling *new* ideas than trying to jump on the same bandwagon as everyone else.
-Suntan
Well, I'm really not all that emphatic about getting *one* component to do everything, all the time. Although I only have one box attached to the TV now to get DVR/movies/internet streaming/etc. *If* Google TV came out with compelling applications and if a separate box was needed to get it, I'd be perfectly fine adding a second box. That's why I got a good universal remote, so that multiple boxes act just like one system when you are watching the TV.
If SageTV comes out with a smart phone app, I'll have that as I already have the same, interconnected interface on all my TVs, my desktop and my laptop. Honestly, the more I think about GoogleTV, if they come out with a box that tries to mimic the umpteen thousand different network streamers, cable boxes, etc. it will be a failure. Personally, I'd rather they spend time coming out with compelling *new* ideas than trying to jump on the same bandwagon as everyone else.
-Suntan
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anybody know if Google TV is going to be compatible with DirecTV receivers? I'm considering buying a Google TV box when they come out, but only if they will work with my DTV setup already.
It sounds like you haven't read the description of the only announced set top box (STB). It's an HDMI pass through device (HDMI in, HDMI out, placed between your AVR and your display) that should be able to control anything an IR Harmony can control. Whether that works for you (or anybody) depends on your set-up.
It sounds like you haven't read the description of the only announced set top box (STB). It's an HDMI pass through device (HDMI in, HDMI out, placed between your AVR and your display) that should be able to control anything an IR Harmony can control. Whether that works for you (or anybody) depends on your set-up.
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Ah ok, I didn't quite catch that part. My Harmony remote works just fine with all my equipment, so I'm assuming it will work just fine with the Google box. Now all there is to do is wait and see if this thing does what Google is saying it will.
Ah ok, I didn't quite catch that part. My Harmony remote works just fine with all my equipment, so I'm assuming it will work just fine with the Google box. Now all there is to do is wait and see if this thing does what Google is saying it will.
So far it looks like Google TV will be good for playing....You Tube.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...128775412.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...128775412.html
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/l...am-impression/
If this thing records shows to Google's cloud, I'm impressed!
If this thing records shows to Google's cloud, I'm impressed!
I am not so impressed. They did not invent anything, just use PC concept on a TV: Mouse? full-size keyboard? who is going to use that keyboard in the living room?
I am more impressed with Boxee remote: one side is simplicity and the other is for rare search typing.
I am more impressed with Boxee remote: one side is simplicity and the other is for rare search typing.
Interesting to actually see the thing in use. The integration of TV with online services would make it a potential replacement/upgrade for a Roku box (depending on price) but there was no indication that it would play local/LAN content, which would be (I think) important to a lot of people around here.
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