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I do buy Blurays, and I would really like to watch native 4k content. I suppose I was trying to talk myself out of buying the Samsung, given it's mixed reviews.
Check out the $350 retail Sony UHD upscaling blu-ray player = http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-components/uhp-h1

Last week I went to a HDR store event and the regional Sony rep said it had been recently released and represents their best effort to date to compete with Oppo, etc., but I see only one review for it right now. Note that it does not play UHD blu-rays.
 

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..I'm using Vizio's native apps like Netflix, Amazon, and Vudu that all support 4k, but I think that with Vizio's move to the Google platform, they'll probably dump own smart apps platform.
You are correct, they are moving all of their display lines to use the Android table and Google Cast apps to drive the display. This means no more proprietary Vizio apps, the Android platform will have much better support.

However, Google Cast is not supported by many of the streaming apps outside of YouTube and Netflix, notably Amazon is missing.
 

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I second the recommendation for the Sony UHP H1.
I've had this player for almost a month it's 4K upscaling is impressive and audio performance exceptional.
 

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How important should dual HDMI outs be to me?

I have not yet purchased an AVR or a UHD player to go with the js9000 I have.

I have held off on the 8500 and have no interest in the Panasonic at it's price point. I'm ready to buy something though and the Xbox one s seems appealing but again, it only has 1 output.

Am I correct in thinking that dual outputs are really only important for older existing avr units that lack proper video passthrough?

I half remember hearing I would belimited to optical output for audio with a single output but I may just be imagining that.

Will probably get a refurbished marantz 5010 unless another deal is found.
 

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You will only need to use the dual outputs with AVRs that don't support HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2. Since you are looking for a new AVR, also, just make sure it supports HDR. I use a single cable with my Yamaha and Samsung without any issues what-so-ever.

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I second the recommendation for the Sony UHP H1.
I've had this player for almost a month it's 4K upscaling is impressive and audio performance exceptional.
Check out the $350 retail Sony UHD upscaling blu-ray player = http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-components/uhp-h1

Last week I went to a HDR store event and the regional Sony rep said it had been recently released and represents their best effort to date to compete with Oppo, etc., but I see only one review for it right now. Note that it does not play UHD blu-rays.
You will have all the required components of 4k, so, if you buy Blu Ray movies, why would you not want to start watching 4k blu ray movies, and yes there is a difference between 4k and up-scaled 4k. I am getting the Samsung and will move it to another tv in the future if something better comes along. If streaming 4k data is going to be your only use, then get any blu ray player for now. Let the tv do the 4 k streaming and up-scaling for all under 4k levels. Sony is about the best out there for up-scaling.
Bought the Samsung, arrives tomorrow.

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You will only need to use the dual outputs with AVRs that don't support HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2. Since you are looking for a new AVR, also, just make sure it supports HDR. I use a single cable with my Yamaha and Samsung without any issues what-so-ever.

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Do you have any personal opinion on a One S vs the samsung 8500?

I game on a PS4 exclusively so outside of an xbox exclusive that i otherwise would have just ignored, I won't really be gaming on it so its not super important.

I see the 8500 here and there for around $300 which is more appealing than it was in my head when I had only really seen it at $399.
 

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According to the one S thread the system can't do bitstreamed HD audio which kills it for me. Makes it a pretty simple decision now.
Exactly. Without Bitstream Xbox S is no good to me. I didn't spend this much money upgrading my system to ATMOS only to not be able to use it because my player doesn't support it. Costco has the 8500 on sale now.
 

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Help Selecting Disc Player

I currently have an OPPO BDP 83, and would like to upgrade. I am in no particular hurry, but would prefer to make a move sometime before the end of the year, and will be using the new player almost exclusively for movies and concert videos. I would like to get some opinions on which "must-have" features to purchase (or wait for) to at least try to future-proof the new player. HDR? 4K? And also, which players currently offer all of those capabilities -- and/or any other recommendations??? THANKS.
 

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I currently have an OPPO BDP 83, and would like to upgrade. I am in no particular hurry, but would prefer to make a move sometime before the end of the year, and will be using the new player almost exclusively for movies and concert videos. I would like to get some opinions on which "must-have" features to purchase (or wait for) to at least try to future-proof the new player. HDR? 4K? And also, which players currently offer all of those capabilities -- and/or any other recommendations??? THANKS.
I own the OPPO BDP 103 and also the Samsung UBD K 8500 4K with HDR. The OPPO is much more handsome to look at, the motor and tray are silky smooth. Video performance is top of the line. The Samsung is ugly as all get out, has one little LED that turns either green, red or blue depending on what is happening with the DVD. It has a good interface. Video performance is as good as the OPPO's with 480 p material and 1080 p material. However it blows the OPPO out of the water with 4K streaming and 4K DVD's. At this time the Samsung is a lot less expensive than an OPPO 4K will be in the future, when it comes out. If you are not in a hurry, mind the ugliness and do not want a bargain, wait for the 4K OPPO. If you do not mind ugliness, can hide the DVD and you want a bargain then the Samsung is your DVD deck. My humble opinion.

PS. COSTCO were selling the Samsung recently for $319.00. Do not think the sale is still on , but if you wait a bit, I'm sure prices will drop again.

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If you do not require streaming app support the Philips BDP7501 is another option. It's a 4k HDR player. Seems to have marginally better picture quality than the Samsung unit and overall fewer problems with HDCP handshake. Just be aware that it's pretty bare bones in terms of what it can do. It's mainly just a DVD/Blu-Ray including 3D/UHD Blu-Ray player.
 

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Several members have used the 8500 with their 1080p displays just for the Atmos soundtrack. It works.

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this was my exact question. i have a 1080p tv, my denon bluray player just died. i want to get something to play movies but i am torn. dont know if i should get a samsung uhd player to enjoy my atmos speaker setup or wait till i get the 4k tv. my biggest problem is buying something twice. i would hate to buy a bluray player only to get an uhd player in a couple years.
if i was rich i wouldnt mind so much.
i wish there was an easy way to do this.
i guess i need to find a good deal on the samsung k8500 unless someone has a better idea? i dont want to wait 3 months to play movies and enjoy atmos
 

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I thought this was a UHD Blu Ray player thread, but there seems to be more discussion of Blu Ray players instead.
 

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I'm looking into getting Epson 5040UB, which UHD player would be the best for me? Will be looking into PS4K when it gets announced...
 

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Who is coming out with a UHD player other than:

Samsung
panasonic
Oppo

Does anyone know if Denon, Marantz or Pioneer are coming out with a UHD player. Currently i have a Denon 3800BDCI Bluray player which I purchased first day it was available. i want A UHD player that is high end.
 

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I currently have an OPPO BDP 83, and would like to upgrade. I am in no particular hurry.
@wdesbrow: you will want to compare it to the forthcoming Oppo UHD Blu-ray player which should release before the end of the year, then consider the rest of the market (Samsung, Philips, XBox One S, Panasonic and perhaps Sony & LG).

All UHD Blu-ray players support UHD "4K" and HDR-10. There are no HDR-Dolby Vision players or HDR-DV physical media discs, only streaming media sources currently, but that may change by the end of the year and you may wish to consider that if your display can do HDR-DV.

Finally, the XBox One S doesn't support bitstream audio currently, so it can not output Dolby Atmos immersive audio.
 

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I'm looking into getting Epson 5040UB, which UHD player would be the best for me? Will be looking into PS4K when it gets announced...
I don't think any of the current players would be better or worse suited to your display; you should compare them on other terms by taking a look at the owner threads for each model. See my previous comment, above.
 
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