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Haha good news for me. I wonder if I'm next in line then? My order date was 4.29.

If I hear anything about my order shipping I'll drop a note here. I wonder if anyone else is ahead of me.

Cool, I’ll do the same. I think I talked to him about ordering around May 1st and he sent my invoice around may 2-3rd and I paid in full. Luckily I still have a full system hooked up so I’m not without entertainment or anything, just itching to finally get these things!


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Haha good news for me. I wonder if I'm next in line then? My order date was 4.29.

If I hear anything about my order shipping I'll drop a note here. I wonder if anyone else is ahead of me.
I am in the same boat. My order was made on 4.20. Jeff told me the middle of June, and then the end of the month, which is today. I asked him today for an update. He is usually pretty quick about messaging me back.

My friend @Ethos4Lyfe ordered his 110HTs after me. He has received his order. Jeff told him that his cabinet maker makes the smaller cabinets first. I ordered 212RTs (7 of them) for reference.

I finished my room and all I need is the JTRs. I am so excited. I will let you know if I get an update too!
 

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I am in the same boat. My order was made on 4.20. Jeff told me the middle of June, and then the end of the month, which is today. I asked him today for an update. He is usually pretty quick about messaging me back.

My friend @Ethos4Lyfe ordered his 110HTs after me. He has received his order. Jeff told him that his cabinet maker makes the smaller cabinets first. I ordered 212RTs (7 of them) for reference.

I finished my room and all I need is the JTRs. I am so excited. I will let you know if I get an update too!

Damn, that’s going to be a hell of a setup! Shoot, at this point I’m hoping everything is ok with him if we haven’t heard from him.


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Damn, that’s going to be a hell of a setup! Shoot, at this point I’m hoping everything is ok with him if we haven’t heard from him.
I was thinking the same thing about the HiFi Summit and a lot of backorders. This Jeff is just too popular.
 

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I am in the same boat. My order was made on 4.20. Jeff told me the middle of June, and then the end of the month, which is today. I asked him today for an update. He is usually pretty quick about messaging me back.

My friend @Ethos4Lyfe ordered his 110HTs after me. He has received his order. Jeff told him that his cabinet maker makes the smaller cabinets first. I ordered 212RTs (7 of them) for reference.

I finished my room and all I need is the JTRs. I am so excited. I will let you know if I get an update too!
7 212rt's? Holy hell lol - that sounds amazing.

I also redid my entire setup - I'm a 2-channel person myself. So I sold a lot of old gear and did some trading and have ended up with a McIntosh C2600, MC452, and an L/R dual RS2's. Now I'm waiting on 212RT's, and a 3rd RS2 which I'm going to use in the corner and fire up for gaming and movies.

I'm down to my last pair of speakers (Forte III's) which will likely be sold when I receive my order.

One thing about the JTR stuff is the more I learn, the more I realize how much most speaker companies cheap out on stuff you don't see, like the quality of the cabinet/crossover, etc. Forte III's are pretty good, but especially in some of the other stuff I've owned (looking at you RF-7 III's) I've become more familiar with the frequency response graphs and see some of the midrange holes and overblown upper midrange and treble. As an example, there is a 7db suckout on the RF-7 III's right around 1khz. What's up with that? And you can REALLY hear it in voices once you know it's there. The more research I do the more I realize how good of a decision it is to move to the 212's. I'm very anxious to hear how much better they are, especially after the fun I've been having with the dual RS2's.

I have a stack of games I've been holding off on playing so I hope to hear back soon! In the meantime the wait gave me time to get everything else sold haha.
 

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7 212rt's? Holy hell lol - that sounds amazing.

I also redid my entire setup - I'm a 2-channel person myself. So I sold a lot of old gear and did some trading and have ended up with a McIntosh C2600, MC452, and an L/R dual RS2's. Now I'm waiting on 212RT's, and a 3rd RS2 which I'm going to use in the corner and fire up for gaming and movies.

I'm down to my last pair of speakers (Forte III's) which will likely be sold when I receive my order.

One thing about the JTR stuff is the more I learn, the more I realize how much most speaker companies cheap out on stuff you don't see, like the quality of the cabinet/crossover, etc. Forte III's are pretty good, but especially in some of the other stuff I've owned (looking at you RF-7 III's) I've become more familiar with the frequency response graphs and see some of the midrange holes and overblown upper midrange and treble. As an example, there is a 7db suckout on the RF-7 III's right around 1khz. What's up with that? And you can REALLY hear it in voices once you know it's there. The more research I do the more I realize how good of a decision it is to move to the 212's. I'm very anxious to hear how much better they are, especially after the fun I've been having with the dual RS2's.

I have a stack of games I've been holding off on playing so I hope to hear back soon! In the meantime the wait gave me time to get everything else sold haha.

RF-7III/RC-64III is exactly what I’m coming from so that makes me super excited to hear! I’ve always loved my 7III’s but I’m ready to level up


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RF-7III/RC-64III is exactly what I’m coming from so that makes me super excited to hear! I’ve always loved my 7III’s but I’m ready to level up


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Nice man - yeah I owned the RF-7 III's and also the Forte III's, and one day I swapped them and used the Forte III's for some gaming and immediately could hear a massive increase in upper mid bass/lower midrange presence and fullness with sound effects in Doom. Then I A/B'ed some music and found the same thing - that's when I started doing more research and found the midrange V in RF-7 III measurements. I thought to myself - if I could combine the dynamics and presence of the RF-7 III's with the thick middleband of the Forte III, I'd have my perfect speaker. Based on everything I seen and heard, that is accomplished with the JTR's.

Here's the frequency graph I'm referring to with the RF-7 III's, and you can REALLY hear it. EQ doesn't fix it. When you get your 212's, if you still have your RF-7 III's do an A/B test on voices and leave your thoughts if you think of it. :
 

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Nice man - yeah I owned the RF-7 III's and also the Forte III's, and one day I swapped them and used the Forte III's for some gaming and immediately could hear a massive increase in upper mid bass/lower midrange presence and fullness with sound effects in Doom. Then I A/B'ed some music and found the same thing - that's when I started doing more research and found the midrange V in RF-7 III measurements. I thought to myself - if I could combine the dynamics and presence of the RF-7 III's with the thick middleband of the Forte III, I'd have my perfect speaker. Based on everything I seen and heard, that is accomplished with the JTR's.

Here's the frequency graph I'm referring to with the RF-7 III's, and you can REALLY hear it. EQ doesn't fix it. When you get your 212's, if you still have your RF-7 III's do an A/B test on voices and leave your thoughts if you think of it. :
klipsch numbers are misleading for example the RF-7 III is rated sensitivity is 100 dB @ 2.83V / 1M but reviewers found it to be around 92.8dB, maybe they use in room sensitivity but that isn't the standard in the industry so you can't compare it to other speakers.

also you can see from the graph that the speaker isn't "32-25kHz +/- 3db"
 

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klipsch numbers are misleading for example the RF-7 III is rated sensitivity is 100 dB @ 2.83V / 1M but reviewers found it to be around 92.8dB, maybe they use in room sensitivity but that isn't the standard in the industry so you can't compare it to other speakers.

also you can see from the graph that the speaker isn't "32-25kHz +/- 3db"
Yep they definitely fudge their numbers a lot these days. Sadly, it seems like they're more in the business of marketing now than selling great audio gear. That -7db suckout on the RF-7 III is also present on some of their other speakers. Unforgivable, in my opinion.
 

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I heard from Jeff. He said he has all the components ready to go but is waiting on the cabinets. He said he would reach out to them and let me know.

My buddy just heard on his sub and sounds like it’s being finished up/maybe shipping today. Hopefully our speakers aren’t too far behind


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Good news all around. I was wondering if the delay was component-related - hopefully the cabinet shop delivers soon on the 212's. Glad things seem to be on the move.

210’s for me! RT’s and RM but agree, fingers crossed we all have our stuff soon!


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I'm also in the queue and playing the waiting game! ;)

My order is for:-
- 3 x 212RT
- 4 x 110HT
- 2 x Cap 4000ULF-TL

I originally placed my order April 10th, with an expected ship date of June 5th.

By the beginning of May, Covid-19 shut down the cabinet maker and the date got pushed to end of June. (I also added another sub to my order and changed 210RTs to the 212RTs!).

I spoke to Jeff last week and he said that he was still trying to get my speakers built by the end of June. I'm sure he is getting calls and emails from us all eagerly awaiting our new toys, so I'm trying not to bother him.

Hopefully very soon!!!
 

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I'm also in the queue and playing the waiting game! ;)

My order is for:-
- 3 x 212RT
- 4 x 110HT
- 2 x Cap 4000ULF-TL

I originally placed my order April 10th, with an expected ship date of June 5th.

By the beginning of May, Covid-19 shut down the cabinet maker and the date got pushed to end of June. (I also added another sub to my order and changed 210RTs to the 212RTs!).

I spoke to Jeff last week and he said that he was still trying to get my speakers built by the end of June. I'm sure he is getting calls and emails from us all eagerly awaiting our new toys, so I'm trying not to bother him.

Hopefully very soon!!!

Damn, that’s a stacked order! I really hope I don’t regret not going for the 212RT’s but I’m sure the 210’s are better for my current room. I’m the same way, I don’t want to bug him but I am very antsy to play with the new gear!


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Damn, that’s a stacked order! I really hope I don’t regret not going for the 212RT’s but I’m sure the 210’s are better for my current room. I’m the same way, I don’t want to bug him but I am very antsy to play with the new gear!


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Is there an actual sound quality difference between 210RT and 212RT? I know that 212RT are more sensitive and dig little deeper but from what I see they look like they use the same CD and have the same crossover point. Has anyone compared them or asked Jeff about the differences?


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Is there an actual sound quality difference between 210RT and 212RT? I know that 212RT are more sensitive and dig little deeper but from what I see they look like they use the same CD and have the same crossover point. Has anyone compared them or asked Jeff about the differences?


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I’ve seen people say the two, and even the 215 are closer than they are different. Since my primary use is multi channel, mostly gaming and movies and I run a pair of 18’s Jeff said I won’t gain much going to the 212 and the 210’s would be a better fit in my smaller room


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Been doing a lot of direct comparisons with my JTR 210s(Emotiva T2+, Revel M105, JBL 308p, Infinity R263, Infinity Beta 20). By far, the thing that stands out to me most, is just how much more clear and detailed they are. And by "detailed" I don't mean elevated treble, the JBLs and the Infinities actually have more treble energy, but the JTRs are still more detailed. I think it's due to the dispersion width. I had thought I was a wide dispersion fan, but the more direct comparisons I do, the more I'm starting to favor the narrow dispersion the JTRs provide. It's just so much more clear; it's like putting on contacts for your ears.
 
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