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Usually around Black Friday, not much happens in the ID subwoofer industry... Not this year at JTR...

JTR is having the Free shipping promo til the end of November (Contiguous USA only. No other discounts apply).

In addition, Jeff has a very limited stock of 2019 Captivator 118HTs (tuned to 18Hz) for $1599 shipped, that is at least $300 off.

Get yours now!





That's a great deal for you mainlanders. :)
 
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I’m with you there buddy. A new OLED and 4K Blu-ray are on my list for next year. My Panasonic plasma has been great but this small ass 54” screen just isn’t cutting it anymore.

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Due to the panel's low yield, OLED is just so expensive relative to LED TVs ... The magic number for me is $20 per diagonal inch, and OLED is currently at > $30... Large screen LED TVs become so affordable this quickly because there are many panel manufacturers...

It's going to be years before the OLED will become as affordable as LED TV. Samsung is not making the OLED panels any time soon because the company had failed doing so before. Currently, the 77" OLEDs are $7000... :(

In your case, if you upgrade to the 65" OLEDs next year, IMO, the 'upgrade' will be much more dramatic if you can move your couch closer to the TV. :)
 

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Due to the panel's low yield, OLED is just so expensive relative to LED TVs ... The magic number for me is $20 per diagonal inch, and OLED is currently at > $30... Large screen LED TVs become so affordable this quickly because there are many panel manufacturers...

It's going to be years before the OLED will become as affordable as LED TV. Samsung is not making the OLED panels any time soon because the company had failed doing so before. Currently, the 77" OLEDs are $7000... :(

In your case, if you upgrade to the 65" OLEDs next year, IMO, the 'upgrade' will be much more dramatic if you can move your couch closer to the TV. :)
True enough. I won’t argue, OLED is expensive. However your street price for the 77 is about 2k off. ;) And, I haven’t made a definitive decision. I took about 9 months to decide on subs so.......

Can’t move closer to the TV due to the women rules of the house but that gives me an excuse to get something bigger!

Not ruling out a ginormous LED either, I’ll be spending many an hour at BB comparing between now and then. Don’t fret my good man, I picked we’ll with the 2400......do you doubt me on a new TV? I didn’t think so......:cool:
 

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It's going to be years before the OLED will become as affordable as LED TV. Samsung is not making the OLED panels any time soon because the company had failed doing so before. Currently, the 77" OLEDs are $7000... :(
$5k even with 5 year extended warranty and no interest for 3 years from authorized brick & mortar dealer:
 

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oleds look great but hate to say nobody in my family can critique any tv of last 10 years....if the cowboys on they good.
 

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$5k even with 5 year extended warranty and no interest for 3 years from authorized brick & mortar dealer:
What? How is that possible? OLED77C8 is still $7000 at Costco... Not saying that Costco price is the only right price...

$5000 even is a great price!
 

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True enough. I won’t argue, OLED is expensive. However your street price for the 77 is about 2k off. ;) And, I haven’t made a definitive decision. I took about 9 months to decide on subs so.......

Can’t move closer to the TV due to the women rules of the house but that gives me an excuse to get something bigger!

Not ruling out a ginormous LED either, I’ll be spending many an hour at BB comparing between now and then. Don’t fret my good man, I picked we’ll with the 2400......do you doubt me on a new TV? I didn’t think so......:cool:
I know you can't move your couch closer to the TV... That is why I suggested it... ;)

Definitely not doubting you, my man... Just pointing out the high prices for OLED. In contrast, a decent (IMO) 75" Samsung LED UN75NU710 is $1088 + tax now. You could get 4 of them and make a giant 150" TV wall for less than the 77" OLED... ;)
 

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I know you can't move your couch closer to the TV... That is why I suggested it... ;)

Definitely not doubting you, my man... Just pointing out the high prices for OLED. In contrast, a decent (IMO) 75" Samsung LED UN75NU710 is $1088 + tax now. You could get 4 of them and make a giant 150" TV wall for less than the 77" OLED... ;)
IMO, spend $1k-$1.5k on a decent LCD, spend far less than the difference the OLED would have cost and get a projection setup.
 

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What? How is that possible? OLED77C8 is still $7000 at Costco... Not saying that Costco price is the only right price...

$5000 even is a great price!
Check out the Oled deals thread if you are looking. I walked in and went right to the store Manager with a few printouts from some of the online discounters and told him I was buying a TV today and that I'd buy one from him right now if he made it worth my while. 10 minutes later the set was in the truck. :)
 

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IMO, spend $1k-$1.5k on a decent LCD, spend far less than the difference the OLED would have cost and get a projection setup.
PJ is for sure the best option for a dedicated room and for watching movies with a cinema-scope aspect. But it is not necessarily the best option if you don't have complete light controlled room or for regular family room, IMO. I have PJ and AT screen ready to install in my basement, but my build keeps getting side tracked. :(
 

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Check out the Oled deals thread if you are looking. I walked in and went right to the store Manager with a few printouts from some of the online discounters and told him I was buying a TV today and that I'd buy one from him right now if he made it worth my while. 10 minutes later the set was in the truck. :)
Exactly! Use the power of retail competition to your advantage!

DJ
 
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PJ is for sure the best option for a dedicated room and for watching movies with a cinema-scope aspect. But it is not necessarily the best option if you don't have complete light controlled room or for regular family room, IMO. I have PJ and AT screen ready to install in my basement, but my build keeps getting side tracked. :(

I thought modern day projectors had enough light output to work well even in a room that isn't completely dark. However, my point is that a $1k-$1.5k TV is maybe good enough for watching the news or Oprah, and the projection screen can be lowered and curtains drawn for serious viewing. Even a motorized electric screen and very good projector can be done for less than the cost of a large OLED minus the cost of a decent LCD/LED. I mean, this hobby isn't always about the best value, and everyone has their own priorities, but my personal preference would be a 110" screen with a great picture, and a $1-$1.5k TV, versus only a $5-$7k TV and no large screen.
 

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$5000 even is a great price!
Yep, if you’re are talking to the decision maker like @jjackkrash says, you can strike a pretty good deal. People have been speculating on the 77 dropping to to 5k and below.

I know you can't move your couch closer to the TV... That is why I suggested it... ;)

Definitely not doubting you, my man... Just pointing out the high prices for OLED. In contrast, a decent (IMO) 75" Samsung LED UN75NU710 is $1088 + tax now. You could get 4 of them and make a giant 150" TV wall for less than the 77" OLED... ;)
Lol, I was a little slow on the couch thing. 4x75......hhmmm...I might have to think about that :) I know you’re not doubting me and I appreciate the advice.

IMO, spend $1k-$1.5k on a decent LCD, spend far less than the difference the OLED would have cost and get a projection setup.
I have considered a projector and screen but not sure how that would work in my room. I would have to somehow mount it on the ceiling and then have it drop down for movies. I may have to look into that still again. Anyway, like I said, I’m not completely set on what I’m gettingI did look at a top of the line LED but then I saw the blooming affect and then I couldn’t unsee it, I couldn’t unring that bell. Since this is going to be a big purchase, I tend to over analyze, rethink, over analyze, rethink and then start over.

My apologies to the JTR thread, I seemed to have derailed it a bit. Carry on with the sub talk.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Todd
 
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I thought modern day projectors had enough light output to work well even in a room that isn't completely dark.
This depends mostly on what you can personally tolerate. I love a nice PJ in a black room, but my personal enjoyment starts to wane pretty quickly as the room gets lighter.

Also, on the Oled, you can get a very nice 65" set for $2k. The 77"ers have a panel size that was very inefficient to make in the older facilities (LG upgraded and is upgrading its production facilities to make these bigger panels more efficiently) and the prices have just in the last few weeks come out of the clouds. $5k is still a tough nut for me to swallow, but I really wanted one of these babies. :)
 

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Yep, if you’re are talking to the decision maker like @jjackkrash says, you can strike a pretty good deal. People have been speculating on the 77 dropping to to 5k and below.



Lol, I was a little slow on the couch thing. 4x75......hhmmm...I might have to think about that :) I know you’re not doubting me and I appreciate the advice.



I have considered a projector and screen but not sure how that would work in my room. I would have to somehow mount it on the ceiling and then have it drop down for movies. I may have to look into that still again. Anyway, like I said, I’m not completely set on what I’m gettingI did look at a top of the line LED but then I saw the blooming affect and then I couldn’t unsee it, I couldn’t unring that bell. Since this is going to be a big purchase, I tend to over analyze, rethink, over analyze, rethink and then start over.

My apologies to the JTR thread, I seemed to have derailed it a bit. Carry on with the sub talk.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Todd
I dunno, having seen your viewing room I’m thinking an LED OLED direct view monitor is going to be your best bet from a form/function standpoint. More simple plug and play. The WAF standpoint will also factor in heavily here since there will be no drilling and sawing or running of wires and the battling of light issues in a space with an open floor plan. An 85 incher would give you more than enough of what you’re looking for where visual field is concerned, and since we are right up against Black Friday/Cyber Monday...Like I said we love our 75” Sony as it fits our space perfectly.

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I dunno, having seen your viewing room I’m thinking an LED OLED direct view monitor is going to be your best bet from a form/function standpoint. More simple plug and play. The WAF standpoint will also factor in heavily here since there will be no drilling and sawing or running of wires and the battling of light issues in a space with an open floor plan. An 85 incher would give you more than enough of what you’re looking for where visual field is concerned, and since we are right up against Black Friday/Cyber Monday...Like I said we love our 75” Sony as it fits our space perfectly.

DJ
Thanks for the thought DJ. I am leaning that way since I don’t have a dedicated room but I’ve got some time to think.

I’ll bet that 75 is nice. Rest assured, I’ll be getting the biggest best TV I can afford without selling a kidney! Who are we kidding....I’ve got 2.....:rolleyes:

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I have considered a projector and screen but not sure how that would work in my room. I would have to somehow mount it on the ceiling and then have it drop down for movies. I may have to look into that still again. Anyway, like I said, I’m not completely set on what I’m gettingI did look at a top of the line LED but then I saw the blooming affect and then I couldn’t unsee it, I couldn’t unring that bell. Since this is going to be a big purchase, I tend to over analyze, rethink, over analyze, rethink and then start over.

My apologies to the JTR thread, I seemed to have derailed it a bit. Carry on with the sub talk.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Todd

No apologies needed; we LOVE talking about toys!! :) Anyway, I have JVC projector in my hometheater for around 20 years now, and Pioneer Kuro 60" plasma in living room.

Just MHO:
1. Any movies, sports, shows on the projector TRANSFORMS the experience. The room however must be very dark, the darker the better. There is no way around this - must be dark.
2. Any LED or OLED will kill the projector when it comes to brightness and PQ in case of OLED, but... the experience will not be the same primarily because of the small size. The only advantage is for watching news in a bright room, as projector is not nearly as convenient and does not look good in a bright room.
3. Every time I'm at Best Buy, I am completely mesmerized by the picture quality and "blackness" of the OLED's. To the point that I wish my Kuro would stop working. :eek:

So if you could have a dark room or plan to watch movies mostly in evening etc., go for the projector, you will never go back. Ideally, get an OLED for the living room LOL.
 
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