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Correct, I just changed my original statement after doing some testing. I think the pq for standard Blu-rays looks great but I am curious why they chose to "block" the 1080p option for TV's with DV.
Yeah, Jaws looked pretty good. No complaints but I also wonder what harm ther'ed have been to allow us to set the resolution. I always could and did on my Samsung 8500K. Oh well. Just something we'll have to live with.

The evaluation continues..... :)
 

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OK so...I finally received 3 Monoprice HDMI Certified Premium cables in the mail. I just returned from Best Buy with a Sony X700. I have some stuff to take care of now but later this evening I will be hooking up both players with the good cables and doing some A/B comparisons on some Blu Rays I have here. Thinking Game of Thrones and some Pixar films I own. Those should be a good test. I will test the upscaling on the LG UBK90 vs the upscaling on the X700 vs the what the A9 chip on the C8 does. For all you know I might not see a difference and what I was noticing before was due to a bad cable. We will see. I will try to take some pics but I don't know if my Galaxy S7 camera will capture what I see.
 

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My UBK90 is connected to my Sony 930E. The 930E is DV capable, but not with the UBK90.
I am able to select 1080p when setting the res on my UBK90, then I put in the Jaws Blu-ray Disc.
The picture looks good but it still shows as 1080p.
My Sony 930e is great at upscaling, so why does it show Jaws still playing in 1080p?

Thanks,
Len
 

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My UBK90 is connected to my Sony 930E. The 930E is DV capable, but not with the UBK90.

I am able to select 1080p when setting the res on my UBK90, then I put in the Jaws Blu-ray Disc.

The picture looks good but it still shows as 1080p.

My Sony 930e is great at upscaling, so why does it show Jaws still playing in 1080p?



Thanks,

Len


It’s showing the resolution of the input source.
 

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My UBK90 is connected to my Sony 930E. The 930E is DV capable, but not with the UBK90.
I am able to select 1080p when setting the res on my UBK90, then I put in the Jaws Blu-ray Disc.
The picture looks good but it still shows as 1080p.
My Sony 930e is great at upscaling, so why does it show Jaws still playing in 1080p?

Thanks,
Len
So based on what you are saying, users are able to bypass the LG player's scaler but only if the player isn't connected to a Dolby Vision TV (or thinks it isn't). What an odd implementation.
 

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I tried some blu ray discs out on both the UBK90 and X700. I set the X700 bypass the scaler and just send a 1080p signal to the TV. After trying that out I had the Sony player upscale to see if I could see the difference. To be honest, I think bypassing the Sony's scaler may have made the image just a smidge sharper. And I really mean just a smidge. Same thing with using the Sony's scaler. It is almost impossible to tell and even where I think I notice it, it may be my eyes playing tricks on me, like some sort of placebo effect. I tried a couple of Pixar discs and looked at some episodes of Game of Thrones on blu ray. There's just not much there.

What really stuck out was that when I tried to update the Sony firmware, it went through the motions and then told me the update failed. I tried it again and the machine seemed to get stuck. When it finally decided to reboot, I checked the firmware version and it did indeed update to the latest one. Not sure why it told me it failed. Then, after testing a disc, I hit the stop button on the remote and the player did not seem to like that. My TV screen started flashing on and off and displaying noise. I had to switch to another input and shut the X700 off. On top of that the HDMI CEC function is a bit aggressive. I turn off the player and switch to another input on the TV, and suddenly the Sony turns on again and the TV switches inputs. Just very odd behavior. Come to think of it the Simplink function between the UBK90 and my C8 is also weird. Sometimes the LG player will power on by itself and the input will switch.

Bottom line, don't concern yourself too much with the upscaling. The initial softness I noticed was probably due the first random HDMI cable I tried. I think the Sony is definitely going back, though I will play around with it some more. The firmware upgrade problems and what it did to my screen just because I hit a stop button freaked me out. I have also seen various reports in the threads here and in online reviews that the x700 will lock up/freeze while playing discs after you've owned it for a while.

Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed in both. Great image quality on 4K discs but the firmware is buggy and often display weird behavior/lockups. Just because we opt for a budget player doesn't mean we should be beta testing these. But as of now, the LG seems like the least offensive option.

I really wish I could find an affordable Oppo 203.
 

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And now the wifi on the UBK90 stopped working. Can't get it to connect again. I can't believe this stuff. I don't stream anything via the player, but found out I wasn't connected when I checked for a firmware update.
 

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So based on what you are saying, users are able to bypass the LG player's scaler but only if the player isn't connected to a Dolby Vision TV (or thinks it isn't). What an odd implementation.
Yep, it’s as if the Dolby vision support "takes over" your resolution setting and sticks it at 2160p. Not my favorite thing but it is what it is I guess. Just have to take it as an item to ultimately decide if I’m keeping the player or not.

And now the wifi on the UBK90 stopped working. Can't get it to connect again. I can't believe this stuff. I don't stream anything via the player, but found out I wasn't connected when I checked for a firmware update.
Geesh. Did you restart it or whatever else? Did you get the WiFi back?
 

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Yes, it is odd.
I have a 55E6, and was wondering about upscaling of 3D bluerays when it is updated to DV.

When playing a 3d BR, the UBK90 would then still upgrade the 3D to 4k and not the TV?
somehow I thought 3D was displayed differently in 4k sets, and it would be left to the TV to diplay the 3D in 4k.
Can someone explain?
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I have a 55E6, and was wondering about upscaling of 3D bluerays when it is updated to DV.

When playing a 3d BR, the UBK90 would then still upgrade the 3D to 4k and not the TV?
somehow I thought 3D was displayed differently in 4k sets, and it would be left to the TV to diplay the 3D in 4k.
Can someone explain?
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Current HDMI standards do not support 3D at 4K. So 3D content would be sent as (3D)1080p/24, and upscaled to 4K in your 4K/3D TV.

I don’t have this player, so I can only assume it still does this when connected to a Dolby Vision capable TV.
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Current HDMI standards do not support 3D at 4K. So 3D content would be sent as (3D)1080p/24, and upscaled to 4K in your 4K/3D TV.

I don’t have this player, so I can only assume it still does this when connected to a Dolby Vision capable TV.
—Bob
It does - I have watched a few 3D titles and it does send 3D as 1080p/24. Looks fine though. :)
 

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I am very impressed with the UBK90 thus far.
I put the upscaling back in the hands of the UBK90 by setting it to Auto.
Just watched an older DVD, “Clear and Present Danger” with Harrison Ford. No problems of any kind and the PQ was excellent.
Looks like it’s a keeper 😀
 

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I am very impressed with the UBK90 thus far.
I put the upscaling back in the hands of the UBK90 by setting it to Auto.
Just watched an older DVD, “Clear and Present Danger” with Harrison Ford. No problems of any kind and the PQ was excellent.
Looks like it’s a keeper 😀
Good to hear. I bet we all place too much emphasis on the upscaling stuff. I mean, I’m sure there are slight differences between players and TVs but for the most part your Blu-ray Discs will look fine whether upscaled via the TV or the player. The UHD performance is the key piece here and so far the UBK-90 is doing a fine job. And the Dolby vision is working nicely too. :)
 

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I am very impressed with the UBK90 thus far.
I put the upscaling back in the hands of the UBK90 by setting it to Auto.
Just watched an older DVD, “Clear and Present Danger” with Harrison Ford. No problems of any kind and the PQ was excellent.
Looks like it’s a keeper 😀
Good to hear. I bet we all place too much emphasis on the upscaling stuff. I mean, I’m sure there are slight differences between players and TVs but for the most part your Blu-ray Discs will look fine whether upscaled via the TV or the player. The UHD performance is the key piece here and so far the UBK-90 is doing a fine job. And the Dolby vision is working nicely too. :)
Bingo! I was just about to mention the same thing. We all bought this for 4K/HDR/DV performance, and it does a great job with that. That is the main reason. We all also have standard blu-ray's and DVD's that we want watch from our collection and I think it does a great job at that too. Sure, maybe another player out there does a slightly better job, but it will not be a night and day difference.

Coming from an Oppo 203, I can tell you that if you are just comparing picture quality, they are the same. Some might not think so but it's not a $300+ difference.
 
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