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Actually the 103 *CAN* accept high bit rate audio on its HDMI Inputs -- as multi-channel LPCM. The limitation is that it can't accept Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstream input. (If you try, you will get the lossy "compatibility" Bitstream instead -- traditional DD or DTS.) So your source device would have to do the decode of TrueHD or DTS-HD MA to high bit-rate, multi-channel LPCM.


The HDMI Inputs on the 103D work the same way.


--Bob
Really, is it the same ting for the 105?  HDMi unable to accept Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstream!!!!!!!! Does that mean that when you play a blu ray in the OPPO it can't pass Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstream? That's surprising!

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Originally Posted by wmcclain  /t/1492940/official-oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-edition-owners-thread/30#post_23795687 He's talking about the HDMI inputs. Not a Blu-ray source. I'm sure much of this is explained in the manual and in the FAQ.


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Oh I see thank you, so if I use my Mac Mini and use HDMi to the OPPO input I won't be able to have 192 kHz/24 or 96 kHz/24 bit?
 

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^ Here's what it says in the Specifications page near the back of the manual:

Input: HDMI Audio: up to 5.1ch/192kHz or 7.1ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, AAC.


So yes, you can get your higher rate input -- as LPCM.


The on-screen Info display will show just what's coming in on the HDMI Input if you want to check.

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Oh I see thank you, so if I use my Mac Mini and use HDMi to the OPPO input I won't be able to have 192 kHz/24 or 96 kHz/24 bit?

As it says in the FAQ: What are the specs of the digital inputs?
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The inputs support stereo and 5.1 LPCM up to 192KHz, 7.1 LPCM up to 96KHz.

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau  /t/1492940/official-oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-edition-owners-thread/30#post_23795856 ^ Here's what it says in the Specifications page near the back of the manual: Input: HDMI Audio: up to 5.1ch/192kHz or 7.1ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, AAC.  So yes, you can get your higher rate input -- as LPCM.  The on-screen Info display will show just what's coming in on the HDMI Input if you want to check. --Bob
Thank you Bob, this is so much better than reading the manual :) I assume no DSD?
 

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau  /t/1492940/official-oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-edition-owners-thread/30#post_23795871 ^ No DSD. --Bob
Gracias compadres
 

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Out of curiosity has any seen any difference in ability between the 103D and 103 as a scaled/deinterlacer on the HDMI In, since they have different chips?
 

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^ Actually scaling (with the sole exception of 4K output) and de-interlacing are both handled by the MediaTek System-on-Chip in BOTH the 103 and 103D. So barring bugs, there shouldn't be any difference.

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Ah, for some reason I thought the HDMI In was handled only by the Marvell.
 

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The Marvel was only used for 4K scaling, Color Enhancement and Noise Reduction. 4K scaling is now handled by the VRS, Noise Reduction is handled by the MediaTek, and Color Enhancement is technically something you now get through the Darbee. So you lose absolutely nothing.
 

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Mediatek is doing quite well for themselves. Panasonic and Sony now exclusively use them as well, granted all perform differently. At least you know the Oppo works as desiged, because the 2013 Panasonics have problems with simple patterns.
 

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Darbee Edition is only for DVD improvements?

No, it actually performs better on high quality sources. I had the standalone box but got rid of it, looks kinda bad on overly compressed HD. I agree with the assessment of 35% or so setting and HD mode, and I like that this will only apply it to blu-ray when I watch.
 

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Darbee Edition is only for DVD improvements?

As others have said, the better the source the better the Darbee effect. It will not improve poor quality sources; may make them worse.


For good DVDs you can leave it at the same HD setting as for Blu-rays, or try the FulPop mode, which adds some edge enhancement.


For poor DVDs it would be best to leave Darbee OFF and fiddle with the VRS enhancements.


Me: I don't bother trying to improve bad DVDs, although I see a lot of them. I'm just accepting of their nature.


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No, it actually performs better on high quality sources. I had the standalone box but got rid of it, looks kinda bad on overly compressed HD. I agree with the assessment of 35% or so setting and HD mode, and I like that this will only apply it to blu-ray when I watch.

Darbee is coming out with a new standalone box. What do you think about the new standalone box?
 

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Its nice looking, but I still prefer it built in. One more thing in the video and audio chain is just not something I want. I like the set it and forget it for the Blu-ray player only.
 

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Actually the 103 *CAN* accept high bit rate audio on its HDMI Inputs -- as multi-channel LPCM. The limitation is that it can't accept Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstream input. (If you try, you will get the lossy "compatibility" Bitstream instead -- traditional DD or DTS.) So your source device would have to do the decode of TrueHD or DTS-HD MA to high bit-rate, multi-channel LPCM.

By "lossless," I meant bitstream. PCM is uncompressed.


[ /nitpick ]


Does the HDMI input accept multi-channel PCM? Even 7.1? For some reason, I thought it was limited to stereo.


Not that I would ever have much cause to route TrueHD or DTS-MA through the OPPO's HDMI input (I'm most likely to get those from playing the Blu-ray in the OPPO), but I do still have an HD DVD player in my rack.
 

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^ The HDMI Inputs accept multi-channel, high bit-rate LPCM up to 7.1 as well as the traditional, lossy Bitstreams. Only the Asynchronous USB DAC Input on the 105 is limited to stereo.


(Oh, and LPCM is "lossless" by definition, since "lossless" means able to reproduce the original, master LPCM.)

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Darbee is coming out with a new standalone box. What do you think about the new standalone box?
 

If you mean this one, it will likely have an MSRP of 3X - 4X that of the BDP-103D.

 

 
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