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This press release was before LG told about "no HDR OLED before IFA"
Right, I know this but I am still curious if they have a Netflix stamp of approval on the box.
 

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New 2015 LG 65EG9600 available via Magnolia/BB

Great news. Best Buy called-the new LG 65EG9600 is available for ordering thru the Magnolia store inside Best Buy. The Best Buy website still says "coming soon". But apparently the Magnolia distribution chain is faster than BB, although my buy used Best Buy invoice as well as GEEK Squad warranty

Bought the LG 65EG9600 last night at the price quoted on the BB website with a delivery date of mid April2015. Although the price was retail price without discount, they did give me a break on the GEEK warranty as well as a discount on the LG soundbar and the 9600 is $1000 cheaper than the EC9700. Overall pleased. And yes-still scratching my head that I bought an expensive TV unseen-hoping for the best with the GEEK warranty as my safety valve.

Will feed the forum once delivered!
 

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Well according to this the HDMI version may also have to updated with a firmware, but this is speaking generally and not with specific reference to the EG9600 series http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/hdmi-hdr-201503184030.htm

Using the term “HDMI 2.0a” to describe the yet-to-be-released spec, Tack explained that a new HDMI version is necessary for the detection of HDR metadata flags that’s embedded in the video stream, allowing for proper display of HDR-treated material. As long as the display is HDR-capable, he said that the upgrade can be done by a software/ firmware update rather than a hardware overhaul.
 

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What happened to the 55EF9600 version, aka the flat one. Is it another case of the US is only getting curved.
Don't think those are coming out until August. That's what VE says anyway, and they have been spot on regarding the release times so far.
 

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Well then, I spoke too soon. Really need a new TV, but I'm going to try to hold out for the flat model. The $500 reduction in price is quite nice for a feature I really could care less about.
 

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:...


MacBook Pro's support channel bonding (up to 3 streams I believe).


TVs, AVRs, BluRay players, etc. only support single streams and can only do 150Mbps no matter what your router says on the box.


Do you have an iPhone 5 (or earlier)? Go tell me how fast that is on your network :). iPhone's are single stream devices.


Or if you have an iPhone 6, go tell me how fast that is when compared to your AC MacBook :).


Most devices do NOT support channel bonding since it requires multiple antennas.


You just happened to pick the one device that supports channel bonding to make a meaningless example.


By the way... what are you talking about on your other point too?


Most of the big ISP have announced plans to deliver GigaBit internet to the home in 2015 / 2016. There are at LEAST a dozen areas in the country where you can get GigaBit internet to the home for < $100.


HINT: Wireless AC doesn't have the capability to go at GigaBit speeds.
Man you obsess about stuff...

With N it's 72 mbit with a 20 Mhtz channel and 150mbit with 40 mhtz channel. Then you can have multiple radios/antenna/bonding going all the way up to 4 for 600mbit. Worst case even if it is a single antenna and 20 mhtz channel it's plenty fast as it will be around 30mbit usable. More realistically it'll link at least at 150mbit leaving you with 75 usable. Assuming you have a decent base station and rf conditions.

Same with the ethernet if it's only 100mbit... Doubt it is.

They are both plenty fast for anything you need to do...

AC wifi is pretty worthless for your TV unless you have line of sight to your router/ap. Not to mention you'll never need the bandwidth AC provides...
 

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as it will be around 30mbit usable.

Which is what I said you get using N devices :rolleyes:. The other guy was arguing that you can get oodles more.

They are both plenty fast for anything you need to do...

How do you know what my bandwidth needs are?


But, yeah, I guess there are plenty of folks who don't mind paying $xx/mo for yy and only getting a fraction of what they paid for cuz they are too lazy to fix it, don't know how to fix it, etc.


Thanks though, I pay for 65Mbps service, so I expect to get it on ALL my devices. If you're paying for 65Mbps service and you only get 30Mbps on most of your devices and that's "fast enough for you", that's YOUR deal... not mine :rolleyes:.


AC wifi is pretty worthless for your TV unless you have line of sight to your router/ap. Not to mention you'll never need the bandwidth AC provides...

Please stop spreading so much misinformation, sir :rolleyes:.


A) AC has MUCH better range / obstacle penetration then N. I can get my full 65Mbps out to the middle of the street which is completely on the opposite side of the house where my router is located and throughout my entire house. AC most certainly does NOT require LOS. N can't even get its lousy ~30Mbps a few rooms away.


B) As you yourself just explained, most N devices (we're not talking about channel bonding laptops) are going to top out at ~30Mbps. I most certainly need more then that since my ISP speed is ~65Mbps.


C) As I explained to the other guy, plenty of ISPs are going to be offering Gigabit in 2015/2016. Google already does in at least a dozen places. My ISP (Cox) already does in my city (but not my neighborhood yet).


D) AC wouldn't be fast enough to handle Gigabit speeds for the same reason that N can't. AC to a single stream device is 450Mbps, so you'll only get about 200Mbps - 250Mbps. Which is why, :eek:OMG :eek:, they are already working to the successor to AC to handle Gigabit speeds.
 

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Spot on regarding the release times so far.
No one has been spot on release dates, as only the manufacturer knows for sure. Case and point, 65EC9700. Release was slated for Sept 2014, they showed up at one dealer in October, 2 other dealers in December. Seems like 100 units where sold nationwide, maybe. The owners thread has few owners. If the 65EG9600 come out here in two weeks or so, the 65EC9700 was more or less skipped.
 

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Which is what I said you get using N devices :rolleyes:. The other guy was arguing that you can get oodles more.




How do you know what my bandwidth needs are?


But, yeah, I guess there are plenty of folks who don't mind paying $xx/mo for yy and only getting a fraction of what they paid for cuz they are too lazy to fix it, don't know how to fix it, etc.


Thanks though, I pay for 65Mbps service, so I expect to get it on ALL my devices. If you're paying for 65Mbps service and you only get 30Mbps on most of your devices and that's "fast enough for you", that's YOUR deal... not mine :rolleyes:.





Please stop spreading so much misinformation, sir :rolleyes:.


A) AC has MUCH better range / obstacle penetration then N. I can get my full 65Mbps out to the middle of the street which is completely on the opposite side of the house where my router is located and throughout my entire house. AC most certainly does NOT require LOS. N can't even get its lousy ~30Mbps a few rooms away.


B) As you yourself just explained, most N devices (we're not talking about channel bonding laptops) are going to top out at ~30Mbps. I most certainly need more then that since my ISP speed is ~65Mbps.


C) As I explained to the other guy, plenty of ISPs are going to be offering Gigabit in 2015/2016. Google already does in at least a dozen places. My ISP (Cox) already does in my city (but not my neighborhood yet).


D) AC wouldn't be fast enough to handle Gigabit speeds for the same reason that N can't. AC to a single stream device is 450Mbps, so you'll only get about 200Mbps - 250Mbps. Which is why, :eek:OMG :eek:, they are already working to the successor to AC to handle Gigabit speeds.

I hit a nerve with you, good

YOU don't know what your TV bandwidth needs are... Lol you do not need AC on a tv...period. Sure be nice to have it but not required.

There is misinformation here...but it's not me.

Again you are wrong and out in left field and obsessing about things. If I have Google fiber and get 1000mbit I do not need 1000mbit links to every device in my house... Rofl. My ip cams work perfectly fine on less than 2mbit each with 720p video and audio!.

The super high speeds of AC require line of sight and for you to be within 10 to 25 feet of the base station. As well AC USES ONLY 5ghz. 5ghz has terrible penetration. It doesn't go through walls well at all.

And of course so you can argue...you ignored that you can set 40 Mhtz channels with N. Which is 150mbit or really 75mbit useable per antenna. Hell my old samsung galaxy s3 links at 150mbit with its single antenna.

Most of the AC advantage in terms of signal (not speed) is from "beam forming" (which doesn't actually beam a signal to you; any review that says it does means the reviewer doesn't understand the technology) it's part of the AC spec. Good N routers also do this with the N as well. Learn how to set up your stuff. And buy better basestation like u68/86 or a 7000/7500. I can easily get 30 to 60mbit (actual) on far side of my house through at least 6 walls using N. 5 ghtz AC in my house is in the mud at the far points. My radios all switch to 2.4 at that point.

Yes with good RF AC is far better. No question; no argument there. But N is more than adequate for internet TV streaming and for most things today. Netflix UHD is 15mbit.

Of course they keep working on technology. Theoretical max speed of AC is almost 7gbit. But these high AC speeds even today require multiple base stations to achieve them.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009

So the tech allows for up to 600 Mbps.
Why would some assume that LG will do only 30 Mbps? Because it is LG?

Come on SledgeHammer, you have to discover worse flaws that this to put people off buying this TV.
Yes, that's precisely it. He sits and obsesses about stuff (4:4:4 and 18Gbit) and keeps picking at the topics whenever he can. When some of them are really just irrelevant. Don't get me wrong. It's great he brought this stuff up (once) but most people would sit and wait for someone to test this stuff THEN bring the topic back up once there is more data; but he continues to rehash things whenever he can.

With N to hit 600 mbit you need 4 antennas (radios). In my experience most N devices now days have at least 2. So you are looking at 300Mbit (150Mbit usable) with 40mhtz channels or 150bit total with 20mhtz channels (75mbit usable). PLENTY fast enough for internet streaming.
 

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Yes, that's precisely it. He sits and obsesses about stuff (4:4:4 and 18Gbit) and keeps picking at the topics whenever he can. When some of them are really just irrelevant. Don't get me wrong. It's great he brought this stuff up (once) but most people would sit and wait for someone to test this stuff THEN bring the topic back up once there is more data; but he continues to rehash things whenever he can.

With N to hit 600 mbit you need 4 antennas (radios). In my experience most N devices now days have at least 2. So you are looking at 300Mbit (150Mbit usable) with 40mhtz channels or 150bit total with 20mhtz channels (75mbit usable). PLENTY fast enough for internet streaming.
Sounds like you're the one obsessing. *YOU* quoted a week old post :rolleyes:. And now you are trying to drum up yet another argument :rolleyes:. But at least you finally admitted that you are bored and trolling.
 

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Sounds like you're the one obsessing. *YOU* quoted a week old post :rolleyes:. And now you are trying to drum up yet another argument :rolleyes:. But at least you finally admitted that you are bored and trolling.
I really hit a nerve didn't I. Interesting seeing you trying to turn it around on me. I guess it hadn't dawned on you I didn't see this thread or your post until yesterday; I hadn't realized a week is such a long time! lol If I was trolling you I'm not very good at it; or perhaps I'm way behind! So where else have you posted recently? :D

Anyway; why don't we wait for some reviews which check some of the technical discussions you bring up? If I was as passionate about this TV as you are I might even send a PM to Chad or Cleveland (or e-mail the David's) and ask them if they can perform some of these tests if they have the time/equipment. Seems like a better use of time vs rehashing this stuff and the continued wondering. But that's no fun right?
 

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I really hit a nerve didn't I. Interesting seeing you trying to turn it around on me. I guess it hadn't dawned on you I didn't see this thread or your post until yesterday; I hadn't realized a week is such a long time! lol If I was trolling you I'm not very good at it; or perhaps I'm way behind! So where else have you posted recently? :D

Anyway; why don't we wait for some reviews which check some of the technical discussions you bring up? If I was as passionate about this TV as you are I might even send a PM to Chad or Cleveland (or e-mail the David's) and ask them if they can perform some of these tests if they have the time/equipment. Seems like a better use of time vs rehashing this stuff and the continued wondering. But that's no fun right?
You're right. You're not. Yeah, a week old post is ancient history.


As for hitting a nerve, you're going to have to try a lot harder then that. Just because I reply to your posts doesn't mean you "hit a nerve". I'm actually LOLing about this as I kill time at work.


And wanting to know the actual specs of something I'm paying $5K+ for is obsessing? Interesting... buying something I'm not going to be able to use in a year is obsessing?


You should troll in some threads from 6+ months ago where people said HDCP 2.2 is useless and you'll never need it, so go buy that $5K 4K TV that doesn't have it :). Those folks now have a useless TV.
 
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