[Doug G]

I checked the analog 2ch outputs on Planet Earth in the sections I mentioned above and still hear the stuttering. They are both in chapter 3 of "Shallow Seas".


First instance is from 22:11 to 22:30. This is the more subtle of the two, I can't tell if its a very deliberate vibrato or an audio problem. To me it sounds just a little too harsh to be intentional.


Second instance is from 23:23 to 23:39. This one is pretty bad and very obvious.


I've noticed this same issue in at least one other episode (on a separate disc) so I'm guessing there are instances of this in several places. I really hope this is just some kind of firmware issue, but I'm hoping someone else can confirm they also hear what I do.

 

[jmaccool]

I had the player hooked up to an Onkyo receiver, it is not HD audio capable but it worked (PCM out). However it was not playing the score in the background during Twilight? The voices and sound effects were working but no music? So I fiddled with the receiver settings (it was either analog to digital or a PCM setting, not sure) then presto I had music in the background. I now have a Marantz SR5003 receiver and the same problem has arrived, I am not nearly as familar with this receiver as the Onkyo so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.


John M.

 

[Tony Costanza]

Will the BD80 play all channels of 7.1 PCM - feeding to an Integra DTC-9.8. The Integra will only play 5.1 on 7.1 PCM with input from BD55. This was not true with the BD30.

It was determined that the Integra was at fault. Possible Panasonic overcame the problem. 3:10 to Yuma is a BR that only plays 5 of the 7 channels.

 

[wymann]

I found a couple pre-built AVCHD sample disc images and burned them to DVD-R UDF 2.5.


I'm not sure what the original video source of the first image was, but it didn't play at all. The disc was recognized and an AVCHD indicator was displayed in the upper right corner for a moment and the screen went to black, but then it just went to the blank BD60 background without playing the video clip.


The second images was found here:

Backing up AVCHD video onto DVDs and playing them on a Blu-ray player


The source file used was an AVCHD formatted file structure created by editing files from a Canon HF100 camcorder as explained at the link above. I burned these files to DVD-R UDF 2.5 and this disc played fine. The disc was recognized, then it went to an AVCHD playlist menu which allowed me to select the video and play it fullscreen.


Reversing the process described at that link, I copied and renamed the AVCHD disc files to my SD Card, with file names and folder names matching a Panasonic camcorder format. The video played from SD Card on the BD60 just fine and just like the AVCHD DVD-R disc.


So, it does look like you could author an AVCHD disc then edit and copy the files to the SD Card for playback. So far, I've only been able to play camcorder source files this way, but it is significant that these were Canon files. It means SD card AVCHD playback is not limited to only Panasonic source files.


My next step will be to try and convert a non-camcorder source file to AVCHD disc and also try to play that from the SD Card.

 

[joerod]

Just got a BD60 and plan to see how it sizes up to other players this weekend.

 

[acitrano]

I just got this player yesterday and really like it so far. As a computer geek I admit I was a bit wary (believe it or not) to see that my new DVD player had Java, YouTube, and a million other logos all over the box, but the more I thought about it the more comfortable I got. I am in the market for a new plasma (still using my old 42" Panny EDTV plasma) so I'll be able to really appreciate the magic of Blu-ray.


My initial impressions (not judging on the picture, obviously, because of the panel I'm workin' with) is that it's a very good player.


Painless firmware upgrade via LAN port.


The remote response seems a bit flaky, but that may be the batteries.


Also I found the manual to be pretty bad - of course I usually avoid these things but I wanted to connect it correctly.


Seems I connected it just fine (to my Onkyo 806.) As several of you mentioned, the HDMI is the only audio or video connection needed (o'course.) Although the manual isn't very clear about this - that sound format grid in there is brutal.


Now to experiment with the billion or so sound modes - between the device and the Onkyo - and see which I like the best.


Anyway, thanks for all the amazingly helpful information you all contribute throughout this site. I've been lurking a long time and really learned a lot from all of you.

 

[acitrano]

Ah one other thing - I searched for beep and beeping with Viera and nothing.


When navigating through the VieraCast menus, there's a terribly annoying beep every time I click. Nowhere (that I've been able to find) in the manuals or in the VieraCast menu is there an option to turn this awful noise off.


Anyone?

 

[millerwill]



Quote:
Originally Posted by joerod /forum/post/16227235


Just got a BD60 and plan to see how it sizes up to other players this weekend.

Very much look forward to hearing your report. I'm trying to decide whether the BD60 will be sufficient for me, or whether I should just double the price and get the Oppo 83. BD performance is not in question, nor is hidef audio (via HDMI); the issue is upconversion of dvd, of which we still watch a fare #. Just how much does one give up with the BD60?

 

[wymann]

I did a lot more searching and reading on AVCHD playback from the SD card. A lot of people have been trying to get it to work on earlier players like the BD35 without success. It seems that the only video that will play from an SD card must be from an AVCHD camcorder or camera source file.


According to many reports, AVCHD from various other sources burned to DVD-R or BD-R will play, but no one has had any luck trying to convert non-camcorder files to a format that plays from an SD card.

 

[Cameronie]

I need help.


I just got my BD80 in the mail from best buy. and in the Setup screen, under the TV/Device Connection, I have the Analog Audio Output set to "2ch + 5.1ch" Because I have a 5.1 system hooked up thru an Optical cable. But when the test is run, sound only comes out of the Front Left and Front Right speakers.


What am I doing wrong? how do I fix it to work with my surround sound system?

 

[BIslander]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameronie /forum/post/16229138


I just got my BD80 in the mail from best buy. and in the Setup screen, under the TV/Device Connection, I have the Analog Audio Output set to "2ch + 5.1ch" Because I have a 5.1 system hooked up thru an Optical cable. But when the test is run, sound only comes out of the Front Left and Front Right speakers.


What am I doing wrong? how do I fix it to work with my surround sound system?

There's no problem there. If you aren't connected with multichannel analog cables, you don't need to do speaker configurations on the player. Besides, you only get two channels of PCM audio over an optical connection.

 

[Cameronie]



Quote:
Originally Posted by BIslander /forum/post/16229202


There's no problem there. If you aren't connected with multichannel analog cables, you don't need to do speaker configurations on the player. Besides, you only get two channels of PCM audio over an optical connection.

ok. I tested out 300, and the sound was coming out of the other speakers.


So what should my Audo settings be?

Should I turn on PCM down conversion?

and on the Digital Audio Output Settings should I change the "Dolby D/Dolby D +/Dolby TrueHD" and the "DTS/DTS-HD" from the default "Bitstream" option to "PCM" instead?

and "BD-Video secondary Audio" goes to "Off" right??

 

[Doug G]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameronie /forum/post/16229345


So what should my Audio settings be?

Should I turn on PCM down conversion?

and on the Digital Audio Output Settings should I change the "Dolby D/Dolby D +/Dolby TrueHD" and the "DTS/DTS-HD" from the default "Bitstream" option to "PCM" instead?

and "BD-Video secondary Audio" goes to "Off" right??

If you're using the optical SPDIF connection then you want the Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD options to be set to "bitstream" and then set the BD-Video secondary audio to "On". This will send the core DD/DTS 5.1 bitstream over the optical connection. If you use PCM, like BIslander said you'll get a 2ch downmix which limits you to using PLII which you really don't want. The PCM options are really intended to be used with HDMI connections where the receiver doesn't have the ability to decode the HD bitstream so you have to do it in the player. Only HDMI can accept 7.1 PCM so those of us without HDMI capable receivers are stuck with the high bitrate core DD/DTS tracks. They sound very good, though, better than DVD.

 

[BIslander]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameronie /forum/post/16229345


Should I turn on PCM down conversion?

Is that an on/off switch or a stereo/surround encode option? You'd want surround encode, although it would not normally come into play. You'll be bitstreaming instead of sending PCM.

Quote:
and on the Digital Audio Output Settings should I change the "Dolby D/Dolby D +/Dolby TrueHD" and the "DTS/DTS-HD" from the default "Bitstream" option to "PCM" instead?

No. Leave all Dolby and DTS outputs as bitstream. If you set them to PCM, you get stereo over optical.

Quote:
and "BD-Video secondary Audio" goes to "Off" right??

It doesn't matter with an optical connection. You get the same quality either way. (With connections that support lossless, you need to turn off secondary audio.) It would be better to leave Secondary Audio on so that you get audio from menu clicks and PIP commentaries.

 

[carledwards]

Spent the evening last night watching SD DVDs on the BD80. A nice improvement over the BD30 but perhaps not quite up to the very high standard set by the Oppo 983. In any case, I'm keeping the 983 in the system for all region, SACD, DVD-A, HDCD use so I might as well continue to use it for SD DVDs. However, I wouldn't feel too deprived if I had to use the BD80 for all SD DVD viewing. It's very good.


One thing I've noticed so far: having the net connection live with an SD card in place has resulted in a momentary freeze on one BD. When I turn off the wireless bridge, it seems perfect. This could have been a disc issue but I doubt it (Monster's Ball).


In all, this player is a winner, I think. I really like the performance and quality so far.

 

[wymann]

I just watched my first Blu-ray on the BD60. It was a rental of Quantum of Solace. I checked the disc before playing and it had a couple finger prints but no major scratches or scuffs.


Near the end of the film, around 1:27 the picture started to break up and freeze. I let it play through to see if it would get past the bad spot, but it kept pixelating and skipping, then the picture cleared up but it seemed to start playing on fast forward (although no fast forward indicator was displayed).


I had to scan back and forth just past the spot and pause and unpause a few times before getting the movie to resume normal playback. There was at least 20-30 seconds that was unplayable.


At first, I thought it might be a layer break gone bad (is there any way to find the timecode for the layer break?), but I guess it was likely caused by the finger print marks on the disc. I didn't bother trying to clean the disc, since it's a rental and the film was almost over anyway.


Has anyone else seen these kinds of playback issues with dirty discs? I expected the player to recover once it passed the bad spot, but it didn't seem like it was able to get back to normal playback without manual intervention.


Anyway, I will play a few more films and see if the problem happens again. If so, I'll see if cleaning the disc helps next time. Otherwise, I'll start to wonder if the player is defective.


Aside from that one problem spot though, the rest of the film played perfectly well and looked and sounded great.

 

[millerwill]

Most reports have said that the Panasonics are among the very best in dealing with problem disks. Will be interested to hear your further results.

 

[Raymond42262]



Quote:
Originally Posted by acitrano /forum/post/16227565


Painless firmware upgrade via LAN port.


The remote response seems a bit flaky, but that may be the batteries.


Also I found the manual to be pretty bad - of course I usually avoid these things but I wanted to connect it correctly.

I got my BD 60 last night to match up to my 42 inch Panny PZ85 that I bought on Superbowl weekend.


I have a few questions though.


1. I tried to do the firmware update and it does not seem to be working for me. I took some phone wire and hooked it up to the lan and the other end to both my phone line as well as the DSL outlet and tried to download. I received a message that said downloading was unavailable. Should I have it hooked up to the tv or the DISH receiver or was I doing it correctly by hooking it straight to the Blu Ray player?


2. Is there a way that I can hook up the tv as well as the BD60 to be wireless like my laptop? That is how I have the DLS router arranged.


3. Also, I was hoping that the remote for my tv would totally replace the BD60 remote but not all the features are available on the tv remote, Such as setup, drive, status, function and re-master...which I am still learning about.


4. Or, can I use the dvd remote for the tv? But I am missing buttons for the tv, dbs and a few others. I wish I could use one remote for everything without having to buy one of those 100 dollar remotes.


But if I can get the firmware update done that would be a good start.


Thanks


Also, I just have it hooked up with an hdmi cable

 

[Roger_M]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond42262 /forum/post/16235873



3. Also, I was hoping that the remote for my tv would totally replace the BD60 remote but not all the features are available on the tv remote, Such as setup, drive, status, function and re-master...which I am still learning about.


4. Or, can I use the dvd remote for the tv? But I am missing buttons for the tv, dbs and a few others. I wish I could use one remote for everything without having to buy one of those 100 dollar remotes.

I like the remotes TV buttons myself, but the "input" button just switches my Hitachi Projection TV from Ant A to Ant B. Is there any way I could have that button reprogrammed to "Vid1" input selection?

 

[boylan13]

Based on a question that came in on our forum, I tried something a little funky on the BD80 and was surprised by the results. Although the player does convert 1080i/60 material to 1080p/60 output, properly de-interlacing the content based on the encoded cadence, there are some who want to be able to pass the native 1080i/60 content (on some Blu-ray discs) to an outboard processor or directly to a display at it native 1080i/60 format, while still being able to pass native 1080p/24 content at 1080p/24.


I had assumed this was impossible (ASS-U-ME), but if you actually set the BD80 to 1080i output *AND* enable 24p output, then the player passes 1080i/60 content at 1080i/60 while it passes 1080p/24 content at 1080p/24. This is all, of course, assuming that your display or processor can handle all this.


What it doesn't do is pass 480i DVDs at 480i automatically. If the player is set to 1080i output, then DVDs are output at 1080i/60 *unless* you switch in 24p mode via the Display menu in which case it sends it out at 1080p/24.


Probably a little arcane, but if you have a Lumagen or other video processor that does not support 1080p/60 input, then this player might be a very good match for you. You can set it to 1080i output over HDMI (with 24p enabled) effectively getting "Source Direct" functionality on Blu-ray Discs, and just use the component video output for DVDs at 480i.


-CB