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Official Product Pages:
U.S. - TC-65AX900U

UK - TX-65AX902B

Canada - TC-65AX900

Owners Manual:
U.S. - TBA

UK - Owners Manual (http://tda.panasonic-europe-service.../data/ALL/TX55AX902B/OI/926198/TQB0E2424U.pdf) | eHelp (http://tda.panasonic-europe-service...ata/ALL/TX65AX902B/OI/926196/TQB0E2424U-E.pdf)

Canada - Owners Manual (http://panasonic.ca/viewing/ALL/TC-65AX900U/OI/TQB2AA0833-eng/TQB2AA0833-eng.pdf) | eHelp | http://panasonic.ca/viewing/ALL/TC-65AX900U/OI/TQBeHELP-AX900U-eng/TQBeHELP-AX900U-eng.pdf

Press Release:
U.S. - Panasonic Announces U.S. Debut Of AX900 And AX850 Series 4K Ultra HDTVs

UK - Panasonic IFA 2014 Press Kit, and ‘Unleash your senses’ with Panasonic’s AX902 - a new chapter in 4K Ultra HD LED LCD TV picture quality

Link to Purchase:
U.S. - Previously a Magnolia Design Center exclusive special order in the U.S., available now via Panasonic.com and currently reduced to $5,999.99 (as of June 9, 2015, 3:30 p.m.).

UK (Panasonic Store) - TX-65AX902B (£4,999.99 [$8,016.11 USD]) (In stock)

Canada - TC-65AX900 65" 4K Ultra HD LED Life+ Screen ($5,499.99 {+ $39.50 EHF})


FEATURES
•THX Certified 65-inch IPS 3000 4K Hz BLS IFC PRO (Ultra High Definition (3840 x 2160p) | Scanning Backlight | Intelligent Frame Creation | Full Array Local Dimming with 128 Dimming Zones)

•Full Aray Local Dimming (FALD) dubbed "Local Dimming ULTRA" (claimed to feature a more sophisticated sampling across 5 x 5 matrices of local dimming fields to minimize halos around bright objects against dark backgrounds) in 128 16×8 dimming zones (dimming zones confirmed)


•Studio Master Drive which includes both a Super Chroma Drive providing professional-standard 3D Look Up Tables calibration with 8000 registry points (which Panasonic claims is the first time it will be used in a consumer television) (click here for an explanation on LUTs by fxguide co-founder Mike Seymour) and the Black Gradation drive that scans for and applies brightness compensation to dark parts of the picture to protect against them looking hollow and ‘crushed’


•Dynamic Range Remaster (DRR) circuitry to restore the brilliance of bright highlights

•ISF certification with Day and Night calibration modes

•Setting controls accessible on a tablet or smartphone using a dedicated app

•Color gamut reaching 98 percent of the DCI (Digital Cinema Initiative) specification including the BT.1886, the International Telecommunication Union's standard for gamma on professional mastering displays that offers the specific advantage of rendering dark shadows with improved clarity versus older gamma functions (it is also the default gamma target for BT.709 calibrations in SpectraCal's well-known CalMAN software) (yet another claimed industry first)

•Lighting condition analysis (linking video signal processing to ambient light levels) (yet another claimed industry first)

•Four (4) 18 Gbps HDMI 2.0 terminals with HDCP 2.2 support

•DisplayPort 1.2a

•H.265 HEVC content decoding and UHD/4K cloud sreaming

•3D (Polarized) (Passive)

•“Beyond Smart” feature set driven by a Pro5 Quad-Core video processor and HEVC decoder which includes: Info Bar (displays information such as the time and weather without turning on the TV due to a proximity sensor coupled with Face Recognition), Internet Apps (linked to official current lists), my Home Screen, my Stream (for customized recommended content), TV Anyplace, Voice Assistant, Panasonic Cloud - TV Anywhere (transfer live broadcasts or recorded contents via the cloud to a smartphone or tablet device anywhere), HbbTV, Freetime (on demand programming in the UK), and DLNA streaming

•Quad Core Pro5 processing driving the frame interpolation processing for removing judder and motion blur, a Halo Effect Reduction feature (see quote below), 4K Super Clear Resolution upscaling engine, Content Optimiser Pro applying either or both ‘Random Noise Reduction’ to remove video noise without effecting subtle detail elements or causing blurring or Low Bit Rate Noise Reduction to eliminate fizzing and blocking patterns/artifacts associated with heavily compressed digital broadcasts or Web streams (credit to John Archer of Forbes)

•Area Gamma Control feature "where the brightness levels of dark and bright areas are continually analysed separately so that the screen’s gradation steps can be optimised for each area which should result in even more shadow detail and [ ] accurate localised colouring." (credit to John Archer of Forbes)

•700 Nits of brightness (credit to John Archer of Forbes)

•Black frame insertion without frame interpolation in THX mode (credit to Mark Henninger)

•The AX900 is the first LCD-based TV to feature accurate gamma tracking (with BT.1886) when local dimming is activated (credit to Mark Henninger and Joel Silver)

•Rec 709 standard and BT.2020 colour space also supported (the latter in conjunction with the 3D Look-Up technology) (credit to John Archer of Forbes)

•Contains four (4) cooling fans (credit to digital.tv)

•No 55-inch model for the U.S. (unconfirmed)

Reviews
Analog Index - Panasonic TC-65AX900 review

AVS Forum - Panasonic TC-65AX900 LCD TV Official AVS Forum Review

Reviewed.com - Panasonic TC-65AX900U 4K LED TV Review

DIGITALVERSUS - REVIEW / Panasonic TX-55AX902B, Disappointing for a UHD TV at this Price - Held back by an IPS panel with poor backlighting (UK)

Digital Daily - Panasonic AX900, in testing the super LCD designed for those who want the very best (Italian)

avforums - Panasonic TX-55AX902B (AX902) Ultra HD 4K TV Review (UK)

Lesnumeriques - Test: Panasonic TX-55AX900E a definition TV UHD (French)

Dinside - TEST: Panasonic 65AX900 (Norwegian)

Trusted Reviews - Panasonic TX-55AX902 review

HDTVtest - Panasonic TX-55AX902B 4K TV Review (UK)

avforums - Panasonic AX902 (TX-xxAX902) user review and owners thread (UK)

tweakers.net - Panasonic Viera AX900 Review - The UHDTV that plasma rivals (Danish)

hdtvpolska.com - TEST: Panasonic 55 "65" AX900 Ultra HD 4K 55AX900 65AX900 65AX900 TX-TX-55AX900 (Maciej Koper) (Polish)

digitalt.tv - Panasonic AX900 TX 65AX900 Ultra HD TV (Danish)

idg.se - Panasonic AX900 UHD TV: TV for those who want the best possible image (Swedish)

obywatelhd - Panasonic AX900 - for and against the [test] (Polish)

Specifications
U.S. - TC-65AX900U

UK - TX-65AX902B

Canada - TC-65AX900

Firmware Releases
North America: None (as of 1/02/2015)

UK & Ireland: Dec. 16, 2014 (TX-55AX902B & TX-65AX902B) (P146_3032_with_gcx.zip / 109,471,961 bytes)

Europe: Dec. 16, 2014 (TX-55AX900E and TX-65AX900E) (P146_3032_with_gcx.zip / 109,471,961 bytes)

CIS: Dec. 16, 2014 (TX-65AXR900) (P146_3032_with_gcx.zip / 109,471,961 bytes)

Latin America: None (as of 1/02/2015)

Calibration settings
55"
vegacortez (UK)

avforums - Panasonic TX-55AX902B Reviewer's Recommended Best Settings

65"
Reviewed.com - Behind The Screens (Calibration section)

Articles (Newest at top)
HDTVtest - Samsung HU8500 Ties Panasonic AX902 for Best 2014 4K TV

Forbes - Panasonic TC-55AX900 Review: LCD Gets Serious

Forbes - LCD TV Revolution: The 6 Steps That Make LCD 'Better Than Plasma'

Sound & Vision - A Preview of Panasonic's New Flagship Ultra HD TVs

Home Theater Review - Panasonic Life+Screen Web Platform (2014) Reviewed

AVS - Panasonic TC-65AX900—a Revolutionary LED-LCD UHDTV

Big Picture Big Sound - Panasonic Shows Off Flagship 65-inch AX900 and 85-inch AX850 Ultra HD LED TVs

High Def Digest - Panasonic Will Demo Latest Ultra HD TVs at Luxury Tech Show

FLATPANELSHD - Panasonic AX900 will be almost as expensive as OLED (Note: U.S. prices have not been announced)

4K News & Reviews - Review of the Panasonic TX-L65AX900: Panasonic’s Newest, Greatest Line of UHD TVs

ayehdtv.com - IFA: Panasonic AX900 Review (The First Look)

HDTVtest - Panasonic AX900/AX902 Could Be Best 4K LED TV Yet

Reviewed.com - Panasonic AX900 4K LED TV First Impressions Review - The king is dead. Has Panasonic found a worthy successor?

Big Picture Big Sound - Eyes-On with Panasonic's AX900 LED/LCD Ultra HD TV: Is It Really a Plasma Killer?

FLATPANELSHD - PANASONIC CONFIRMS 4K NETFLIX FOR ITS 4K TVS

what hi-fi? - IFA 2014: Panasonic confirms AX900 and flagship X940 4K TVs

c|net - Panasonic plasma-ifies 4K LCD TV picture with full-array local dimming

Huffpost Tech - Panasonic Unveils New 4K TVs, The Return Of 'Technic' Audio... And One Hell Of A Mirror

FLATPANELSHD - Panasonic launches new AX900 & X940 4K TVs

AVS Forum - Full Array Local Dimming: It's All About the Zones

HDTVtest - Panasonic’s Plasma-Like LED TV is AX900 with Direct Local Dimming

FLATPANELSHD - Panasonic unveils two Ultra HD TVs - AX900 & AX800

FLATPANELSHD - Panasonic's 2014 TV line-up - with prices

Flatpanels HD - Can Panasonic AX900 really produce plasma-like PQ?

High Def Digest - Panasonic Details 2014 TVs

PC Mag - Panasonic Unveils Voice-Activated TVs With Facial Recognition

PC World - Panasonic says new 4K LED TV has plasma-like picture quality (appears to erroneously refer to the AX800 series rather than the AX900)

Big Picture Big Sound - Panasonic Introduces 4K, LED and LCD TV Lineup for 2014

Trusted Reviews - Panasonic Viera AX900 4K UHD TV series coming to UK in Q3

Trusted Reviews - Panasonic TX-L65AX900 Review

techradar - Panasonic: our new AX900 LED TVs finally rival plasma

Panasonic - INTRODUCING THE FUTURE OF TELEVISION: LIFE+ SCREEN

Panasonic - Panasonic's 65-inch 4K LED TV Named the Best UHDTV

Gadget Update - Panasonic TX-L65AX900 TV Assessment

Of Week - Panasonic Viera AX900 4K UHD flagship TV

Social Media
facebook - Panasonic VIERA TV (official)

Video
AVS Forum - AX900 CalMAN 5 AutoCAL using CR-100 Meter - youtu.be/stbRWldIOOg

Panasonic VIERA Global - Local Dimming Ultra - youtu.be/E6Ut5wGp0IA

Panasonic AX900 4K LED TV US CA 1212 - youtu.be/MDzjjPAjau4

Panasonic VIERA AX902 Studio Master Drive - youtu.be/-a1_diBpt5Q

Panasonic VIERA AX902 Ultra Bright Panel - youtu.be/6sCI5mTXou8

Digital Trends - Panasonic Viera AX900U 4KTV - First Look (Latest video from the 10/14/14 Luxury Electronics Show) - youtu.be/VRCdfmbfFjs

Panasonic VIERA Global - Panasonic VIERA Studio Master Drive - youtu.be/wxzAVfYO1yE

Panasonic VIERA Global - Panasonic VIERA Ultra Bright Panel - youtu.be/aW9uLw9GCsw

Panasonic Japan - Direct voice operation [VIERA 4K AX900 / AX900F] [official] - youtu.be/f21to7SQ3x0

Official Panasonic Channel (Poland) - Panasonic AX900 4K LED TV - youtu.be/snTQERLFKkc

Official Panasonic Channel - AX900 Picture Quality - youtu.be/stjDStcFVMo

VIERA - AX940 & AX900 4K TVs #PanasonicIFA - youtu.be/-i6yYZFTLJ4

YouTube - Smart Review - CES 2014 | Panasonic Viera 4K Ultra HD TV Lineup 2014 | Life+ Screen Smart HDTV | LED TVs - youtube.com/watch?v=lJjK-QqmFpA

YouTube - Panasonic VIERA Global - Panasonic Life+ Screen Special Interview Vol.1 - youtu.be/C7vMDC2j-EI

YouTube - AVForumsTV - Panasonic launch two 4K TV models and more at Convention 2014 - youtu.be/JGH969i69gc

Panasonic - Viera Life+ Screen (60") - youtu.be/1b3usmwpVBI
 

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You forgot the quote from the LOL Gazette -

"Holy Crap the Price - The Ga Damn Price!"

For what now is a mediocre run of the mill HT Size.

Congrats on an excellent first owners post - cannot question the abundance provided outside HT VALUE Analysis. Must not be planning a high volume consumer base at these prices.

Also, what are they doing building one a day? Dang where the hell are they after all the hoopla and then nothing in the US market and in a matter of weeks CES will steal their marketing thunder.

I understand there likely will early adopter Panny loyalists from their plasma fan base but even many of them aren't used to these prices. I'll bet that within 120 days this thing will be down to $5K or less inventory build-up and competition with 2015 releases likely will force that.

Good Luck but a 65" north of $7K is asinine in today's market when size wise it's rather average.
 

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^^^There you go again^^^ :rolleyes:
 

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It is December 15.... Anyone in US selling this yet?
No. But keep in mind that drop date came from David Katzmaier of CNET and was never officially confirmed. It has not yet appeared on the Panasonic Store US site where I expect it will first.
 

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Weird what Panasonic has done in American market with this TV.
Meanwhile, this TV is already on sale here in New Zealand for only $5900 NZD (about $3800 USD before tax)...it's usually the other way around with us getting hit with release delays and 2-3 times higher MSRPs... Weird stuff...
 

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Weird what Panasonic has done in American market with this TV.
Meanwhile, this TV is already on sale here in New Zealand for only $5900 NZD (about $3800 USD before tax)...it's usually the other way around with us getting hit with release delays and 2-3 times higher MSRPs... Weird stuff...
yup...and (3800us) is where it needs to be. you'd be crazy to spend 7k for this panel.
 

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Weird what Panasonic has done in American market with this TV.
Meanwhile, this TV is already on sale here in New Zealand for only $5900 NZD (about $3800 USD before tax)...it's usually the other way around with us getting hit with release delays and 2-3 times higher MSRPs... Weird stuff...
Indeed... Hopefully the price equals New Zealand's.
 

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Just more proof as to their de-emphasis on the North American market. Good effort, but this thread seems a little premature. :D
If it's being sold elsewhere across the globe where there are thus "owners", how is thread premature? Please, let's keep this thread for technical and operational discussion and take some of this over to the Anticipation Thread.
 

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Typically, an owner opens such a thread and as of this moment, there is not a single owner of this unit at AVS. Ancillary to that, it can't even be purchased in the primary market that AVS serves.
 

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^^^

please stick to technical chat, or move on

thanks
 

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I took delivery of a 65AX900 last week in Los Angeles and have experienced some problems with it. I've been posting about the problems over in AVS's AX900 anticipation thread, and it was suggested to me this morning that I post them here too. I'm not sure how to do that, so if anyone is interested, you can look at posts ## 1034, 1038, 1041, 1043, and 1056 over there. Going forward, I'll post updates in this thread.
 

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I took delivery of a 65AX900 last week in Los Angeles and have experienced some problems with it. I've been posting about the problems over in AVS's AX900 anticipation thread, and it was suggested to me this morning that I post them here too. I'm not sure how to do that, so if anyone is interested, you can look at posts ## 1034, 1038, 1041, 1043, and 1056 over there. Going forward, I'll post updates in this thread.
Some additional thoughts Cleop. I went back and read Lee's review from Reviewed.com; the only one published thus far on the 65". He observed "backlight bleed" too but only in the upper left corner and it wasn't "excessive". Aside from the differences in the amount of locations between your set and his, I can't help but point out that his were documented after calibration and in "Professional1" picture mode (whereas you're in "THX Cinema"). Try Neel's settings which you can gleam in the "Behind the Screens" and "Calibration" section of his review and see if it helps.
 

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As I mentioned, the flashlighting is worst in the upper left hand corner of my unit, too. I will try his settings tonight and report back (perhaps they will effectively eliminate the issue in the other three corners). But clearly, with adaptive backlighting and letterbox dimming, the corners of the unit should be completely black, so something is amiss.
 

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As I mentioned, the flashlighting is worst in the upper left hand corner of my unit, too. I will try his settings tonight and report back (perhaps they will effectively eliminate the issue in the other three corners). But clearly, with adaptive backlighting and letterbox dimming, the corners of the unit should be completely black, so something is amiss.
I tried the Review.com's picture settings. If anything, they made the flashlighting more apparent in the bottom right corner.

Something else I discovered tonight -- with a 1.85 aspect ratio (which has thinner bars top and bottom than a 2.35 aspect ratio), the flashlighting bleeds into the picture. I suppose it could be the FALD algorithm, but because the flashlighting varies from corner to corner, isn't it equally likely the problem is in the panel (and can't be fully compensated for by the FALD)?
 

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I suppose it could be the FALD algorithm, but because the flashlighting varies from corner to corner, isn't it equally likely the problem is in the panel (and can't be fully compensated for by the FALD)?
I think it's a defect. As far as I know:


  1. All European reviewers praised the backlight uniformity
  2. No European reviewer mentioned any corner bleeding
  3. No European review screenshots exhibit any corner bleeding
  4. The one and only US reviewer (reviewed.com) sees corner bleeding
  5. The one and only US owner (you) sees corner bleeding

Coincidence? Could it be that European AX900's are okay and US AX900's are defective?

Cleop: is there a label on the box or on the TV that shows where it is assembled?
 
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