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I'm looking at the 55, I have a HX909 now and cant stand the blooming...hopefully the ST60 will be a worthy replacement with better PQ
 

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Originally Posted by JSpectre88  /t/1450484/official-panasonic-tc-pxxst60-series-thread#post_23092663


I'm sorry, .001?



I don't believe it for a second.

0.01, not 0.001. Also, the numbers are in cd/m^2, whereas most reviews use ft-L.


The 0.03 cd/m^2 for the VT50 is most likely for cinema mode. The VT50 is closer to 0.007 cd/m^2 if you use any other mode. Cinema mode on VT50 has considerably worse blacks, but has the benefit of much dithering in dark areas. Remember European models in pro modes use the elevated cinema mode blacks + limited output, whereas American models get much lower blacks + better peak output.
 

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according to the link above, the input lag is 66ms, what would cause the increase, from the st-50 ?
 

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Originally Posted by bucknuts07  /t/1450484/official-panasonic-tc-pxxst60-series-thread#post_23095012


according to the link above, the input lag is 66ms, what would cause the increase, from the st-50 ?

its the same they got on the st50. it all depends what u use to measure it. results vary depending on who measures it
 

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Cant complain about these price drops for 2013


TC-P50ST30 $1,499 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,299)

TC-P50ST50 $1,399 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,012)

TC-P50ST60 $1,149


TC-P55ST30 $1,799 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,599)

TC-P55ST50 $1,699 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,297)

TC-P55ST60 $1,499


TC-P60ST30 $2,399 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,099)

TC-P60ST50 $2,099

TC-P60ST60 $1,699


TC-P65ST30 $3,299 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,999)

TC-P65ST50 $2,999

TC-P65ST60 $2,599
 

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Originally Posted by edgeh2o  /t/1450484/official-panasonic-tc-pxxst60-series-thread#post_23095156


Digital Versus ST60 review is up http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-television/panasonic-tx-p50st60-p15314/test.html


Pretty disappointing, they pretty much said 2D and 3D picture quality is exactly the same as the ST50 and called it a day.

I do believe that's a review of the EU version. It's a literal translation of the review they posted of the EU set. Digital Verses is based in France I believe.
 

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I was at my local BB today in Golden, CO and saw an employee about to load one of these (or at least try to) in a BMW 3 series for a guy. They didn't have any on display so the guy was buying it sight unseen. I made a quick "hey you got an ST60, nice!" comment and went on my way. Could've offered to load it in my 4Runner and give it a ride home for him, but don't think he'd have gone for that.



Looking forward to some hands on observations....
 

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lmao. Looks like the 2013 panasonics are going to be a gamers worst nightmare. 66ms? That's stepping

into LG plasma territory. My previous X5 lagged 3 frames, which basically matches the 45-48ms mentioned by a few reviewers. Panasonic is officially out of the question now for gamers looking to make the

HD plunge. I'm still hanging onto my 2011 S30(16ms of lag through component cables) but even then, I still feel a little bit of a difference in performance, more so with motion controls. It still performs fantastic and wont hinder your

skills, but it doesn't quite feel 'on the dime', unituitive, impressive or fun to play. Keep in mind, i'm extremely anal and picky and have been gaming on lag free CRT's

since the 80's. As far as panasonic plasma's go, it's still the best to game on


Anyways, I wonder how the 2013 Samsung plasma's will fair this year...And forget abou that HDMI'1' PC labeling trick,

since it blocks out half the picture controls...
 

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Originally Posted by WaveBoy  /t/1450484/official-panasonic-tc-pxxst60-series-thread#post_23101771


lmao. Looks like the 2013 panasonics are going to be a gamers worst nightmare. 66ms? That's stepping

into LG plasma territory. My previous X5 lagged 3 frames, which basically matches the 45-48ms mentioned by a few reviewers. Panasonic is officially out of the question now for gamers looking to make the

HD plunge. I'm still hanging onto my 2011 S30(16ms of lag through component cables) but even then, I still feel a little bit of a difference in performance, more so with motion controls. It still performs fantastic and wont hinder your

skills, but it doesn't quite feel 'on the dime', unituitive, impressive or fun to play. Keep in mind, i'm extremely anal and picky and have been gaming on lag free CRT's

since the 80's. As far as panasonic plasma's go, it's still the best to game on


Anyways, I wonder how the 2013 Samsung plasma's will fair this year...And forget abou that HDMI'1' PC labeling trick,

since it blocks out half the picture controls...

I thought you might show up.



However, I don't think we have any accurate lag tests on any new models at this point.
 

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Yep. The review that said 66ms was of the EU version. Still waiting on a review of the US set.
 

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Mine also shipped out yesterday from Annaheim. I contacted Panasonic to ensure they didn't send out the older model. They replied that the correct model was shipped out and that they received the supply sooner than expected.
 

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It's here and set up. I won't have the time this weekend to see if the settings others have posted from the ST50 are good for this set, as well. Hopefully, some other folks get their sets soon and start posting.
 
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