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I know this may sound weird, but my 92 doesn't sound loud enough. I have my ps3 connected though optical/toslink and even playing movies bd/non bd I can turn it up to -18 and it still sounds somewhat quiet. I haven't done much configuration but remember my old onkyo was a lot louder. I have the 92 connected to def tech 7002's and remember it sounding a lot louder in the demo room. I know the store wasn't running any extra amps hidden away as its a friend of a friend. I just remember out of the box the onkyo was a lot louder..and they the onkyo was pushing some onkyo htib speakers.
 

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I know that it depends on the codec. Say for instance that I'm listening to Casino Royale. Has uncompressed pcm and dd 5.1 track. On my player, I have dd as bitstream. When I'm watching the movie and going thru the audio, when switching between uncompressed and 5.1, shouldn't i hear a difference?

yes, there is a big difference between the PCM track and DD track on Royale. I do not know about your speaker setup, so I cannot guess on that. But there is a ton of background sounds you will hear on the PCM track and not on the DD track. The voices should have more clarity and dimension on the PCM too.
 

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I know this may sound weird, but my 92 doesn't sound loud enough. I have my ps3 connected though optical/toslink and even playing movies bd/non bd I can turn it up to -18 and it still sounds somewhat quiet. I haven't done much configuration but remember my old onkyo was a lot louder. I have the 92 connected to def tech 7002's and remember it sounding a lot louder in the demo room. I know the store wasn't running any extra amps hidden away as its a friend of a friend. I just remember out of the box the onkyo was a lot louder..and they the onkyo was pushing some onkyo htib speakers.

How loud do you need it? I dont know how loud mine goes cus my neighbors will yell at me if I try. Unless you are playing your music outside in a field any of the current receivers should be too loud. You may have midnight on or some other setting is way off.
 

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How loud do you need it? I dont know how loud mine goes cus my neighbors will yell at me if I try. Unless you are playing your music outside in a field any of the current receivers should be too loud. You may have midnight on or some other setting is way off.

I don't need it that loud, its just in the demo room it was a lot louder to the point of it almost being unbearable. Mine comes no where near that, and even at -15 when I have my parents over they cannot hear it upstairs. I tried some of the other settings and it was a bit louder, but I will play with it this week and see how it goes.
 

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I have the VSX 91 and feel the volume is low as well. To listen to a concert dvd I like it quite loud and I have to crank it up to +5 to 10 and even so its not that loud. Some sources are louder than others but even TV viewing I have it up to -5 depending on the channel. Why have -40 and lower if it cannot be heard?
 

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I know this may sound weird, but my 92 doesn't sound loud enough. I have my ps3 connected though optical/toslink and even playing movies bd/non bd I can turn it up to -18 and it still sounds somewhat quiet. I haven't done much configuration but remember my old onkyo was a lot louder. I have the 92 connected to def tech 7002's and remember it sounding a lot louder in the demo room. I know the store wasn't running any extra amps hidden away as its a friend of a friend. I just remember out of the box the onkyo was a lot louder..and they the onkyo was pushing some onkyo htib speakers.

Why wouldn't you connect your PS3 via HDMI? You do know what this receiver is capable of on the audio side, right? You won't get Dolby True HD or 5 full channels of PCM using the optical audio connection.
 

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honestly I was trying to keep a fair playing field compared to my old onkyo. I will be connecting my hdmi up this week for more testing.
 

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Anyone try a new A35 to see if TrueHD or DTS Master llights up? I'd consider upgrading to a 92 or 94 if I knew for a fact it worked.
 

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tonight I tried hooking up the hdmi(just for audio since right now I have it connected to a non hdmi tv) and received no output. I even put it on all 3 different hdmi inputs just to see if audio was going through(i know video wouldn't work), but no luck. I know there must be a work around for this.
 

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yes, there is a big difference between the PCM track and DD track on Royale. I do not know about your speaker setup, so I cannot guess on that. But there is a ton of background sounds you will hear on the PCM track and not on the DD track. The voices should have more clarity and dimension on the PCM too.

There is a BIG difference but my 92txh is doing the dialnorm thing. So it takes that DD signal and boosts is +4. I would rather them leave that program out but I've been searching for HOURS trying to find a way to disable that function off but nothing. Even when watching HD cable, it's even gone as low as -7. So does anyone have a list of what receivers use dialnorm? Cause I'm seriously thinking about returning this receiver today if I can't find any answers or disable that function in the receiver.
 

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ill have to ask my fruend to see if he can find out about the dialnorm. When I turned off MCACC it was a bit louder when playing ps3. Does the MCACC notice if the speakers are close to each other and keeping thr volume down?
 

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Go into the MCACC through setup and look at the settings. Among other things, the MCACC will lower levels on each speaker, lower equalizer settings, set you speaker sizes to small and move trim levels down on your equalizer. All of these can make your system quieter. Go in and adjust them until Warhawk makes the people across the street think they are being attacked by Iraqis.
 

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ill have to ask my fruend to see if he can find out about the dialnorm. When I turned off MCACC it was a bit louder when playing ps3. Does the MCACC notice if the speakers are close to each other and keeping thr volume down?

Thanks. I REALLY like the receiver and I don't want to return it. Just hate DIALNORM.
 

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Go into the MCACC through setup and look at the settings. Among other things, the MCACC will lower levels on each speaker, lower equalizer settings, set you speaker sizes to small and move trim levels down on your equalizer. All of these can make your system quieter. Go in and adjust them until Warhawk makes the people across the street think they are being attacked by Iraqis.

Thats wierd because MCACC set my front(Def Tec BP70002) to large, and my center(CLR2300) to small(I switched it back to large), and my rears(BP1.2x) to small.


But of course I will keep on playing with it!


P.S. Love your last sentence haha
 

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Warhawk and its THX uncompressed sound...truly amazing.


If you really want to get some sound, change your speakers to large, increase the bass side of the EQ and set your sub to PLUS. This will send all your bass to the sub and to the mains. The first time I fired the SAM launcher with my volume up I almost crapped my pants. Then when some guy blew it up while I was in it, I did crap my pants.
 

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Warhawk and its THX uncompressed sound...truly amazing.


If you really want to get some sound, change your speakers to large, increase the bass side of the EQ and set your sub to PLUS. This will send all your bass to the sub and to the mains. The first time I fired the SAM launcher with my volume up I almost crapped my pants.

I noticed that most people set their speakers to small and have their sub take all the bass. This has always made me think, why? If you have good quality front tower speaker, why would you want your sub to take all the bass? You should get tighter bass from a good tower and send all your LFE to your sub. I have an older set of NHT towers and center and set them to large and set my Velodyne sub to plus. I get fantastic LFE from this, yet don't get over-pushed bass from my towers when needed. When I tried them on small, I had to adjust the volume several times on my sub, because the bass sounded 'muddy' at times. If you have a HTIB or bookshelfs for fronts, then small is definetly the way to go. Anyone else use small for your fronts, even if you have a high-end set of towers? I am curious why?
 

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Warhawk and its THX uncompressed sound...truly amazing.


If you really want to get some sound, change your speakers to large, increase the bass side of the EQ and set your sub to PLUS. This will send all your bass to the sub and to the mains. The first time I fired the SAM launcher with my volume up I almost crapped my pants. Then when some guy blew it up while I was in it, I did crap my pants.

I don't have a sub and when I auditioned the BP7002 and BP2x(I have the 1.2x though) with the 92TXH, it was amazing watching Irobot with the car scene and all of the robots attack him.
 

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Ok..


I don't have a sub yet, but have a pretty decent fronts. How do I set up my speakers in that regard?
 

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I noticed that most people set their speakers to small and have their sub take all the bass. This has always made me think, why? If you have good quality front tower speaker, why would you want your sub to take all the bass? You should get tighter bass from a good tower and send all your LFE to your sub. I have an older set of NHT towers and center and set them to large and set my Velodyne sub to plus. I get fantastic LFE from this, yet don't get over-pushed bass from my towers when needed. When I tried them on small, I had to adjust the volume several times on my sub, because the bass sounded 'muddy' at times. If you have a HTIB or bookshelfs for fronts, then small is definetly the way to go. Anyone else use small for your fronts, even if you have a high-end set of towers? I am curious why?

One problem is that when set to small the EQ doesnt even show the 65hz range anymore. The next available setting is 125hz. The mains dont get much bass anymore in this setting. I like as much sound coming from my mains as possible so I set mine to Large. I double checked with my manufacturer and they concurred that they should be a Large

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I don't have a sub yet, but have a pretty decent fronts. How do I set up my speakers in that regard?

If you dont have a sub then just set the speakers to large. Also go and have a look at your EQ to make sure the MCACC hasn't taken all the bass away.

I know many of the experts say that if you have a sub just set the mains to small but in my smaller room it makes the sub way too noticeable. I am experimenting with setting my fronts to large then lowering the bass at the 65 hz point for the fronts and center since most is done by the sub. I find this blends the speakers better with the sub.

Each room is totally different and mine is a nightmare to setup.

If you are serious about setting things up, spend some cash on a sound meter and a setup DVD like Avia. That being said if you use MCACC and it sounds good, thats all that matters.
 
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