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Take full advantage of digital audio.


In the era of today, you have likely stored a lot, if not all, of your music on your hard drive or portable device (like an iPod or iPhone). And you might listen to Internet radio services rather than just FM stations.


Connected to an AV receiver, our network audio players are made to enjoy the wide range of digital audio available today - wherever it's stored. They offer broad support for music files, several sound-enhancing features, and the option for a wireless connection to your home network.


Hi-bit processing and isolated D/A power supply ensure crystal clear audio.


Highlights include:


AirPlay compatible

USB DAC for a direct USB connection with your PC

high-resolution audio playback up to 192 kHz/24-bit

hi-bit 32 audio processing

Auto Sound Retriever to restore compressed audio files

Auto Level Control equalises volume differences between tracks

front USB terminal for your iPod/iPhone/iPad

ready for Pioneer ControlApp: remote app for iPod touch, iPhone and Android

Bluetooth ready

Wireless LAN ready

High-Accuracy Master Clock

Rigid under base

Isolated D/A Power supply



I love it and here are some of my pictures:


 

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I wouldn't think you would need "multi-channel audio options" It is, after all only a "transport" accessing data...not intended for playing hi rez audio ripped from BR movies (which, I would think, in their eyes, would be illegal).

"USB DAC's for a direct USB connection with your PC"

6 channel is sufficient for SACD, which can be transmitted via optical.



ZivkoF,

How is the interface with your PC? I am assuming I see an ethernet card there...can you access seamlessly with your network? My Onkyo 807 is the worst at network "connectivity"...I have been searching for a way to supplement, and the only thing that works as of now, is another PC connected to my network, and directly connected to the 807 digital coax "in".

This, if cost effective, would greatly relieve my frustration with Onkyo.
 

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Originally Posted by kevin g. /forum/post/21574935


I wouldn't think you would need "multi-channel audio options" It is, after all only a "transport" accessing data...not intended for playing hi rez audio ripped from BR movies (which, I would think, in their eyes, would be illegal).

"USB DAC's for a direct USB connection with your PC"

6 channel is sufficient for SACD, which can be transmitted via optical.

But I thought optical limited you to 48k sampling. What about FLAC's with 96/192k multi-channel sampling (yes I know BD audio rips would not be an option)?
 

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This is a product without a market. Get a Dune and do 20x more for less
 

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Originally Posted by John Tibbs /forum/post/21575022


But I thought optical limited you to 48k sampling. What about FLAC's with 96/192k multi-channel sampling (yes I know BD audio rips would not be an option)?

Just hazzarding a guess here, as I do not own one...(but it looks interesting)...per the specs he listed 192 k is supported. One would guess FLAC would fall within that niche....


Edit: From the product page...
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A rear panel Ethernet port allows full integration into your home network. With DLNA 1.5® certification, a whole new level of entertainment options are at your fingertips. Stream your MP-3, AAC, WMA, WAV, Ogg Vorbis or FLAC music files from your PC, Laptop, Smartphone, or Pad to your home theater system. Or enjoy 1000's of internet radio stations from around the world with vTuner® convenience.
 

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Originally Posted by kevin g. /forum/post/21575128


Just hazzarding a guess here, as I do not own one...(but it looks interesting)...per the specs he listed 192 k is supported. One would guess FLAC would fall within that niche....


Edit: From the product page...

Only 2 channel
 

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Originally Posted by mlknez /forum/post/0


This is a product without a market. Get a Dune and do 20x more for less

You clearly have no understanding of the consumer electronics market. The Dune is the Niche' product with a small to non existent market.......and new encryption Tactics will drive home the death blow to it and many devices like it.
 

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You clearly have no understanding of the consumer electronics market. The Dune is the Niche' product with a small to non existent market.......and new encryption Tactics will drive home the death blow to it and many devices like it.

Please expand on this...
 

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Originally Posted by kevin g. /forum/post/21574935


I wouldn't think you would need "multi-channel audio options" It is, after all only a "transport" accessing data...not intended for playing hi rez audio ripped from BR movies (which, I would think, in their eyes, would be illegal).

"USB DAC's for a direct USB connection with your PC"

6 channel is sufficient for SACD, which can be transmitted via optical.



ZivkoF,

How is the interface with your PC? I am assuming I see an ethernet card there...can you access seamlessly with your network? My Onkyo 807 is the worst at network "connectivity"...I have been searching for a way to supplement, and the only thing that works as of now, is another PC connected to my network, and directly connected to the 807 digital coax "in".

This, if cost effective, would greatly relieve my frustration with Onkyo.


You can have it via LAN to Music Server (which can be also your PC) or via USB cable to your PC. Link for aditional information:

http://www.pioneer.eu/files/support/...A_En.01_16.pdf


To tell you the SQ of this Network Audio Player is outstanding
, the Internet Radio is like to compare 576i (CD player) with 1080p (Pioneer N50) picture. Just listening Radio Paradise, CA, USA and it is great.
 

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For good SQ is important to have high technical performance



Response & Frequency:


Audio Output Level 2 Vrms .

Frequency Range 4 - 80,000 Hz .

S/N Ratio > 111 dB .

Dynamic Range > 111 dB .

Total Harmonic Distortion
Channel Separation > 105 dB .

Weight 7,3 kg .

Dimensions 435 x 97,5 x 330 mm .



Audio Features:


Hi-bit Yes .

Auto Sound Retriever Yes .

Sound Retriever AIR Yes .

Auto Level Control Yes .

Twin D/A Converter (192 kHz/24-bit) 192 kHz/32-bit D/A Converter



Playback:


MP3 Yes (320kbps)

AAC Yes (320kbps)

WMA Yes (320kbps)

FLAC Network: 192kHz/24bit

Front USB: 96kHz/24bit

WAV Network: 192kHz/24bit

Front USB: 96kHz/24bit

WMV Yes

LPCM Yes (with streaming data only)
 

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Originally Posted by ZivkoF /forum/post/21581025


You can have it via LAN to Music Server (which can be also your PC) or via USB cable to your PC. Link for aditional information:

http://www.pioneer.eu/files/support/...A_En.01_16.pdf


To tell you the SQ of this Network Audio Player is outstanding
, the Internet Radio is like to compare 576i (CD player) with 1080p (Pioneer N50) picture. Just listening Radio Paradise, CA, USA and it is great.

No multichannel

Cannot decode MLP

Cannot decode DSD

Cannot decode ALAC

Cannot decode APE


What does this product do, that much cheaper products cannot?
 

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No multichannel

Cannot decode MLP

Cannot decode DSD

Cannot decode ALAC

Cannot decode APE


What does this product do, that much cheaper products cannot?

192 kHz/32-bit D/A Converter and superior SQ to your staff
 

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192 kHz/32-bit D/A Converter and superior SQ to your staff

Even cheap AVRs have dacs with similar specs... What provides the superior sound quality if I have hi res multi channel
 

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Even cheap AVRs have dacs with similar specs... What provides the superior sound quality if I have hi res multi channel

Sorry if you dont understand you really dont understand
I cant help you.
 

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Sorry if you dont understand you really dont understand
I cant help you.

My Integra DHC-80.3 pre/pro has 192khz/32bit dacs...


I use a 3 year old dune streamer ($300). It can stream all of the formats (including 192khz/32bit) to my pre/pro, including multi-channel, and it has a user-interface as well. In fact it does full blu-ray video too, so again, what does this product offer that is new or superior for the price?
 

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@ZivkoF


Seems like an interesting audio product. When it says AirPlay compatible do they mean official AirPlay support out of the box?


@mayhem13


I agree, and it's going to happen faster than some think. Mind you, geographic location is an issue here. Media players are not going away around the world. The PCH and Dune higher end products will certainly be around for the dedicated Blu-ray collector. Audio CD's are still available at Walmart and other places. Video disks will be around for quite some time though I suspect their future is not bright.


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Originally Posted by mlknez /forum/post/21588600


I use a 3 year old dune streamer ($300). It can stream all of the formats (including 192khz/32bit) to my pre/pro, including multi-channel, and it has a user-interface as well. In fact it does full blu-ray video too, so again, what does this product offer that is new or superior for the price?

Well - I just recently purchased a Dune Smart D1 and thought I was getting a media player that could actually make my music experience enjoyable. I was oh so wrong.


How can these guys get away with the total crap that is their music interface? It's non existent. No Album Art. No metadata...no DLNA...no nothing.


This device comes complete with a full blown HDMI interface and all I get during playback is some cheesy floating "screensaver" that displays just the track title? Unbelievable.


I am so disappointed in the "music" side of this player (The video side is great when coupled with a third party skin like Zappiti)...that I will consider the Pioneer immediately as a true audiophile solution. Anything to not have to start the Dune up for music.


Even my lowly WDTV Live for 90 bucks has a beautiful TV interface to enjoy while playing music...cannot believe just how lame the Dune is in this regard.


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This is quite a breakthough on price for Compliant 2 USB device except I don't think they are selling them in the US yet. Let me know if anyone sells the US version.
 

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Originally Posted by Vocalpoint /forum/post/21620926


Well - I just recently purchased a Dune Smart D1 and thought I was getting a media player that could actually make my music experience enjoyable. I was oh so wrong.


How can these guys get away with the total crap that is their music interface? It's non existent. No Album Art. No metadata...no DLNA...no nothing.


This device comes complete with a full blown HDMI interface and all I get during playback is some cheesy floating "screensaver" that displays just the track title? Unbelievable.


I am so disappointed in the "music" side of this player (The video side is great when coupled with a third party skin like Zappiti)...that I will consider the Pioneer immediately as a true audiophile solution. Anything to not have to start the Dune up for music.


Even my lowly WDTV Live for 90 bucks has a beautiful TV interface to enjoy while playing music...cannot believe just how lame the Dune is in this regard.


VP

I agree. If any of these units are USB 2 compliant for FLAC and have a good music interphase, let me know. Boxee, Mica, I have tried for music and they all kind of suck. They are obviously geared to video.
 
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