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I hear you about the death of i-link. Irritated me, too. If "catapult" drops by, I think he'll say the same.

Yeah, although I'm not as irritated as I used to be.
Pioneer seems to be putting a big enough HDMI cache in its receivers that jitter isn't really an issue -- the audio is being cached and reclocked just like i.link. So an Oppo player and a Pioneer receiver looks like a pretty good way to play DVD-A or SACD. Certainly better than analog out of the player where you lose all the EQ functionality of the receiver.
 

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I jumped on the Pioneer bandwagon today. Will get my LX71 (SC-05) next week sometime. Moving from a Marantz Sr8001, so will be interesting to compare the two. I suppose it's not really an upgrade, more of sideway's move.


I went for it because I wanted the new the receiver to be able to decode the new formats, and because I wanted a receiver with HDMI 1.3a. Also I have a Pioneer LX5090 that I got before christmas, so hoping that the two of them work together. I know that the Marantz video pass-through isn't the best.


And the LX71 should be more powerful, and more green as well



Can't wait until it arrives!!
 

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Originally Posted by alazay /forum/post/15941967


well i did an ebay order $1200 for a sc-07 wish me luck


my previous VSX-74 was also a ebay order. and its still working flawlessly 3 years

Just an update for people contemplating on doing an ebay order. My SC-07 did come as described and works GREAT! (boy does this thing rock!). Here's some photos.

AVR in its home


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The PS3 seems like one of those boxes that almost has too many adjustments. It can change sampling rate, adjust volume, do bass management, etc., all on a digital signal. I don't own one but I imagine it takes some careful setup to make sure you're getting a pure unaltered signal out of the thing for all the different sound formats.

So true about the PS3. I enjoy its "tweakability". But, as you mention, set up is critical. I think that's the main reason I'm hearing "better" out of the BDP 51. If I spent some time experimenting more with the PS3, that assessment could be different.


That said, as previously mentioned, I've spent the better part of the last 3 months upgrading, tweaking, re-tweaking different parts of my HT. I plan to change it around again this spring.


Right now, before I start on that, I want to just enjoy what I've got, how it looks, how it sounds, without messing with it any more.


Many, if not all questions can be answered on the first page of this thread. I think the "early adopters" of the SC are only too happy to help. But, getting the answer you need would probably be quicker by going to the 1st page of this thread.


I'm over my i-link disappointment. I had high hopes for SACD and DVD-A (which was i-link's most important job...transmitting digitally). As the format fades into the sunset, DVD-A and SACD playback are less critical for me.


Plus, i-link was the first connection option that allowed me to get rid of the spiderweb of analog cables used to transmit multi-channel audio. HDMI serves the same function, now (also replaced 3 component cables).
 

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Just an update for people contemplating on doing an ebay order. My SC-07 did come as described and works GREAT! (boy does this thing rock!). Here's some photos.

AVR in its home


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Great, now take the stickers off already!
 

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Just an update for people contemplating on doing an ebay order. My SC-07 did come as described and works GREAT! (boy does this thing rock!). Here's some photos.

AVR in its home


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Good deal. Looks very nice (get rid of the stickers). Looks like an Epik or eD sub you're sporting with it, too? Or, is that an SVS?


Have fun......you're going to like it.
 

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Good deal. Looks very nice (get rid of the stickers). Looks like an Epik or eD sub you're sporting with it, too? Or, is that an SVS?


Have fun......you're going to like it.

loving it! i took the stickers off after i took the photo. your right thats one my svs pb-13 ultras.
 

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The SC-07/05 are ghost sleeper receivers that will blow the doors off many on the market, the only thing that's missing is primer gray paint and Crager SS rims.
 

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I'm already using a Harmony so it will be just a matter of programming it. But it will have to be analog from the 79Avi for SACD and HDMI for everything else from it. No problem. Still fence sitting on this one and the 906B. Need to decide soon or else will miss out on both, especially SC07. Thanks all for the info.

The harmony database has the IR code for selecting the multi-channel analog input ("InputMultiChIn"), so yes to your original question, you can now have a single button for going direct to the multi-channel analog input.


With the original remote, you can use the "Next input" or "Previous Input" buttons, it's not mandatory to use the front panel's control.


Dan.
 

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I have now had the SC-07 for over a week. And with this thread already being 189 pages long I am more then late to the party!
I wanted to pair up my 09FD with a Pioneer receiver. I already have good AMP power so I did not really need get the 09 receiver. Plus I wanted to try PQLS over HDMI which the SC-07 has. So without going into a full review I will just say that I have been very impressed with the sound. The past 4 years I have been an Onkyo loyalist and before that Denon. I really like the way the Pioneer performs. I would say the onkyo (latest gen) and Pioneer SC-07 sound more alike than different. Still though, I plan to keep the SC-07 in my set up for awhile until I try another receiver (maybe a new Pioneer) or pre/pro (wish Pioneer would make one) sometime later this year. And today I have a Pioneer Kuro FPJ1 projector coming so I am looking forward to seeing how well the 09FD Blu ray player works with it. Combine those two with the SC-07 and my theater is really looking shiny black!



Back to the SC-07... I do like the simple menus and I like the parameter button on the remote. It allows me to make changes without having to go into the OSD GUI. There is also a bunch of options there! I won't go into to many details since there has been enough reviews already done on this gen of Pioneer receivers. I am just pointing out my personal tastes. I do wish the crossovers could be done individually. My center usually is set at 60 and I don't have that option with the SC-07. It is truly not the end of the world and I would not consider it a deal breaker. The MCACC is very simple and I think it provided good results. I have been doing the Audyssey set up a lot the past year and a half. The MCACC mics do need to be improved but I was able to still achieve very accurate results using my tripod in my main listening position (pretty much the middle of my theater). I also wish in the future they would allow to do at least 3 readings per setting. Still though, it was much faster then I was used to which worked out good. Also the volume... We are so used to having the absolute setting from the Onkyos so my family is very confused. We usually keep it in the 70s so going back wards takes some getting used to.
Unless there is a way to change it and I just haven't stumbled upon it (or read the manual thoroughly).



Finally, I am noticing the clarity and the enveloping sound. I put in The Kingdom and you can hear every bullet whipping by and truly feel the suicide bomber's explosion when he detonates. The bass is very disciplined and not to rough on the ears. We also watched Emily Rose (The Exorcism) and when she is overtaken in her bed in her dorm room you can really feel it. The demon scenes through out the movie are very eerie and the sound has terrific clarity. The voices are spot on and have perfect tonality. My Wife loves Vin Deisel. The sound of his deep voice gets her excited (I know- this is a pg13 review) so she is really like the SC-07!
We have also been watching the Supernatural seasons. The first couple are on SD dvd but the SC-07 handles them easily with its many sound options. She is also starting to like Jensen Ackles!
My favorite has always been the Ultra2 Cinema mode. The SC-07 delivers. I also like the sports mode and have listened to some of the Super Bowl using it. I realize those are a matter of tastes and the PLIIx still sounds excellent as well. I have went on longer here than I planned so I will wrap this up again by simply saying again, the SC-07 delivers.


I inlcuded a pic of the SC-07 and 09FD hanging out together...

 

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joerod...welcome aboard. Glad you're enjoying your SC.


Different manufacturers handle the vol scale differently. Bottom line, there is no relationship between what other manufacturer's use as their scale, and what Pioneer uses. Also, the vol scale is not linear.


So, you're in good shape. Enjoy!
 

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joerod...welcome aboard. Glad you're enjoying your sc.


Different manufacturers handle the vol scale differently. Bottom line, there is no relationship between what other manufacturer's use as their scale, and what pioneer uses. Also, the vol scale is not linear.


So, you're in good shape. Enjoy!

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My SC-07 will arrive soon and I am still in speaker limbo. I plan to get the Orb Audio Mod 4 setup. However, I do have a Mackie HR-626 Studio Monitor center left over from my beautiful sounding (but wife says too ugly) system to use in all of its glory. The center, which as an active monitor, would be fed from the pre-amp via unbalanced cable. The other speakers would be fed by the amp via speaker wire. I plan to split the mod 4 center in to two Mod 2back speakers to create a 7.1 setup.


Is this a viable option. Will the preamp feed the center while the amp feeds the other speakers similar to the way a sub is integrated? Will volume control work in concert such that all speakers and center are volume controlled in unison? Are these speakers too unmatched to be integrated sonically?


Oh, the reason to do this is just to save some greenbacks on yet another 4 orbs for rear speakers.
 

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When I run the full auto MCACC on the SC-05 ,once its finished it keeps setting my surrounds to large even though I had set them to small before I ran the test. Can anyone help? thx
 

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When I run the full auto MCACC on the SC-05 ,once its finished it keeps setting my surrounds to large even though I had set them to small before I ran the test. Can anyone help? thx

Just change them back to small...


Is there a reason you keep running MCACC?
 

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I had noticed that it was set to large after I ran it ,so I tried it once more.So thats the only reason I ran it twice.But ill set them back to small, thx FilmMixer. Should I run it again under a different memory with the surrounds and center set to off for listening to two channel music? or just use the same memory for the 5.1 setup and listen in direct mode?
 

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SC-07 and 4 ohm speakers? Rec'd my SC-07 this week and plan to upgrade my inwalls to Triad Bronze 4 but they a 4 ohm (3.2 ohm min). I like these because they have the inwall enclure and a nice surround but the impedance is low and read in Audioholoics that the SC-07 didn't do well testing full range: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/r...s-and-analysis


I have just been reading that review on the SC-07. The reviewer really doesn't think much of it, does He? I am quite surprised, after reading all the reviews and people's opinion's here and in the UK forum, I have not seen one post complain about the lack of power. If I had read the Audioholic's review first I would have never even considered the Pioneer receiver.


One of the reason's I am purchasing the SC-05 over any others is the fact that nearly nobody who owns one has complained about it.
 

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I have just been reading that review on the SC-07. The reviewer really doesn't think much of it, does He? I am quite surprised, after reading all the reviews and people's opinion's here and in the UK forum, I have not seen one post complain about the lack of power. If I had read the Audioholic's review first I would have never even considered the Pioneer receiver.


One of the reason's I am purchasing the SC-05 over any others is the fact that nearly nobody who owns one has complained about it.

I read the same review but I'm glad I ignored Audioholic's lukewarm evaluation of the SC-07 and bought one myself. This receiver is a BIG step up from my Onkyo TX-SR600 it replaced.


"I measured an efficiency of around 75% which is much better than linear amp designs."
 

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I've searched and read through dozens of these pages and I can't find an answer. It's a dumb question, so be kind...



Does the OSD function via HDMI?


My current receiver, a Pioneer Elite VSX-43TX, doesn't have HDMI support (nor OSD) at all. It's been a great receiver but it's overdue to be upgraded. I'm getting close on buying a replacement, and the 05/07's are at the top of my list. One thing that's clear is that my next receiver must have proper HDMI switching.


And I can't find a clear answer on this...


So if my HDTV was connected to the 05/07 via HDMI, it will display the OSD menus for the 05/07, right? Does it overlay that OSD on top of the source (cable/sat, DVD, BR, etc)? Or is the source replaced by the OSD?


Thank you very much!
 
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