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I was looking at the specs and the MTM-210 looks to be comparable to the JTR Noesis 228HT.

Up front it does, but there's a reason for the price difference and the 228 weighing 20lbs more.
Anyone know if what the cabinets of the new PSA speakers are made of? MDF or Baltic birch?


I know that Jeff is first in line for some of these so I look forward to his impressions! :)
 

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I actually wish I had the budget to buy some of these to use in a small upcoming blind GTG that I'm going to host with a few local guys.
 

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Specs and info quoted from

http://www.powersoundaudio.com/blogs/news/15380517-the-wait-is-over-loudspeakers-are-here

MT-110 & MT-110c

("c" denotes horizontally oriented cabinet)

  • 2 way, audiophile loudspeaker
  • 1" titanium compression driver
  • Cast aluminum exponential horn
  • 10" high efficiency woofer
  • Audiophile grade crossover completely designed in house
  • Frequency Response = 70Hz - 20kHz
  • Sensitivity = 95dB 1W/1M
  • Size HxWxD = 17.5" x 11" x 14" (includes grill)
  • Weight = 35lbs
  • MSRP = $599

MTM-210 & MTM-210c


("c" denotes horizontally oriented cabinet)

  • 2 way, audiophile loudspeaker
  • 1" titanium compression driver
  • Cast aluminum exponential horn
  • Dual 10" high efficiency woofers
  • Audiophile grade crossover completely designed in house
  • Frequency Response = 70Hz - 20kHz
  • Sensitivity = 98dB 1W/1M
  • Size HxWxD = 28" x 11" x 16" (includes grill)
  • Weight = 55lbs
  • MSRP = $899
Package pricing will be determined soon. Pre-orders will start in approximately two weeks, with shipments expected to begin approximately 30-45 days later. All pre-order sales will be part of our Summer of Bass promotion, and will include free shipping both ways.
 

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Hi all,

I already replied to a few questions in our Sub thread. Please check that and then let me know if I can answer anything else here.

We will have plenty of pictures soon. At the moment the cabinets we have on hand have slight variances to the production design(different grill pins and different binding post cups for example). Combine that with numerous scratches and scuffs from being moved about 100x for listening sessions and measurements outside and these just aren't the first visual we want everyone to see..:)

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Hi all,

I already replied to a few questions in our Sub thread. Please check that and then let me know if I can answer anything else here.

We will have plenty of pictures soon. At the moment the cabinets we have on hand have slight variances to the production design(different grill pins and different binding post cups for example). Combine that with numerous scratches and scuffs from being moved about 100x for listening sessions and measurements outside and these just aren't the first visual we want everyone to see..:)

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
Thanks for spending time speaking with us Tom. We know your very busy. :)
 

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Some questions I'm sure are going to be asked soon might as well get them on the first page.

What advantage do high efficiency, large woofer speakers have?

Are these speakers bright, I heard horns are bright or annoying?

What amplification is recommended normal receiver, high end receiver, dedicated amps? How much power (watts) is a good minimum?

Why is the frequency response only 70hz-20khz? Why not aim for a deeper response?

Can I cross these speakers over at 80hz?

Can I run these speakers without a subwoofer?

What PSA sub woofers(s)should I pair these speakers with?

What should I pick for my front three speakers (MT110 vs MT210)?

Will you be offering stands sense these speakers are large and or heavy?

That should get us started and some of the most basic questions out of the way.
 

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Some questions I'm sure are going to be asked soon might as well get them on the first page.

What advantage do high efficiency, large woofer speakers have?

The ability to play very loud and clean with minimum amounts of power. The MTM-210 will be capable of 119-120 of output with only 120watts of amplification

Are these speakers bright, I heard horns are bright or annoying?
My understanding is wave guides are very smooth and flat, which should be good for both music and home theater.]

What amplification is recommended normal receiver, high end receiver, dedicated amps? How much power (watts) is a good minimum?

Any AVR with little as 50watts per channel will drive these speakers to very loud levels. 64watts a channel will drive the MTM-201 to 116db, or 113db with the 101.

Why is the frequency response only 70hz-20khz? Why not aim for a deeper response?

Majority of todays home theater systems utilize a subwoofer to handle the deep bass region. So there is not much need to build a speaker for deeper extension. Also by doing this increases the speakers efficiency and ability to play ultra clean at high output levels.

Can I cross these speakers over at 80hz?

Most definitely...that is the crossover THX recommends for the mains speakers anyway.

Can I run these speakers without a subwoofer?

Sure you can, there just will not be much deep bass output. Just gobs of tight midbass slam.

What PSA sub woofers(s)should I pair these speakers with?

Any model of PSA sub should work well with these speakers

What should I pick for my front three speakers (MT110 vs MT210)?

Looking at the specs, the MT110 should keep up with most peoples demands being reference capable with only 100watts of power, However for those that have multiple subwoofers and listen at extreme levels, the 201 should be considered.

Will you be offering stands sense these speakers are large and or heavy?

Good question! I hope a wall bracket would possibly be available for the 101's being utilized for surround duty.

That should get us started and some of the most basic questions out of the way.
I answered some questions in Bold.
 

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Ok, so I have a question for you Tom/Jim that I feel you guys should be able to answer very well. I have the MBS-01's anchoring the FR/FL of my system. Considering that you guys designed and built both of these sets, I'm very curious as to how these would directly compare to what i have. I absolutely love my MBS's and couldn't imagine replacing them, but of course i am tempted by the latest and greatest. unfortunately, the MBS's are too large to swap out for my rears as i currently have to hang them from the wall since my furniture is in here pretty tight. not sure if they would blend well anyhow. so, basically i would love to hear your take on differences in sound, extension, and efficiency between these two models, and how you figure the two would stack up against each other. :D Im also curious about a future center channel to match these. i understand the mtm could be used in such a manner, but looking at my MBS's and the size of that cabinet, i couldn't imagine using the PSA (being slightly larger) on it's side for a center. it would probably cover the bottom 1/4 of the screen and just look ridiculous. lol. no waf, but my AF.
 

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Up front it does, but there's a reason for the price difference and the 228 weighing 20lbs more.
Anyone know if what the cabinets of the new PSA speakers are made of? MDF or Baltic birch?


I know that Jeff is first in line for some of these so I look forward to his impressions! :)
MDF. If anyone believes weight = absolute indicator of sound quality we can put a 20lb weight in each cabinet and charge a few hundred more----just let us know..:)

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Yes the possible "2999.00 preorder pricing" for 3 MTM-210 and 2 MTM-110 looks like a very solid deal. I am tempted to make the switch to high efficiency speakers.
If you are happy with your current speakers I wouldn't feel the need to upgrade. However, you can also just try a 2.0 system for convenience sake. Let's face it, if you love the sound from the 2.0 system...chances are about 100% you'll also enjoy a 5.0/7.0 system as well..:)

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MDF. If anyone believes weight = absolute indicator of sound quality we can put a 20lb weight in each cabinet and charge a few hundred more----just let us know..:)

Tom V.
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I wasn't suggesting that weight had anything to do with sound quality. But they are similar sizes, use similar components and MDF is heavier then Baltic birch so I'm curious as to where the 20lbs difference comes from.
 

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Ok, so I have a question for you Tom/Jim that I feel you guys should be able to answer very well. I have the MBS-01's anchoring the FR/FL of my system. Considering that you guys designed and built both of these sets, I'm very curious as to how these would directly compare to what i have. I absolutely love my MBS's and couldn't imagine replacing them, but of course i am tempted by the latest and greatest. unfortunately, the MBS's are too large to swap out for my rears as i currently have to hang them from the wall since my furniture is in here pretty tight. not sure if they would blend well anyhow. so, basically i would love to hear your take on differences in sound, extension, and efficiency between these two models, and how you figure the two would stack up against each other. :D Im also curious about a future center channel to match these. i understand the mtm could be used in such a manner, but looking at my MBS's and the size of that cabinet, i couldn't imagine using the PSA (being slightly larger) on it's side for a center. it would probably cover the bottom 1/4 of the screen and just look ridiculous. lol. no waf, but my AF.

These kinds of comparisons are very difficult as we're dealing with subjective preference to a large degree. There are a few things I can answer though.

1)No new center anytime soon. For mostly on axis listening the MTM 210 is great. If you have one of those WIDE rooms with lots of off axis seating(say 30 degrees or more) you can consider the MT-110 in either orientation. The "voice match" is practically identical so anyone can mix/match the 210 and 110 to best fit their individual needs.

2)if neither of the center options would fit for you considering a complete 5.0 or 7.0 system is likely a non starter. However if you key seating is close to equidistant to the main L/R you can also consider the "phantom center" option(no center speaker).

3)I probably wouldn't try to mix/match the MBS stuff with our speakers. There is just such a discrepancy in ultimate performance targets...I don't see it ending well.

Tom V.
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