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OFFICIAL SONY PRESS RELEASE
OPERATING MANUAL
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...ations/xbr.pdf
46xbr2 dimensions
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDL..._cutsheets.pdf

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52" xbr2 and xbr3
only the 52" can accept 1080p over component and the kdl-52xbr2 doesn't have inter changable bezels

available on or about nov 30th
KDL-52XBR3 $ 5,299.99
KDL-52xbr2 $ 4,999.99

highres pic of 52" xbr3
high res pic of a silver bezel xbr2

press release
http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/24701.html


sonystyle site
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...2&Dept=tvvideo

high res pic of xbr2 with red bezel

XBR2 august release
46" $ 3,599.99
40" $ 2,999.99
Changeable Designer Color Bezels (Optional) with matchin pedestal
HIGH RES PIC OF BEZELS
bigger pics of bezels on the tv
Arctic White
Sienna Brown
Scarlet Red
Pacific Blue
Velvet Black
3D model of the xbr2


The optional bezels come in five colors, including red, white, blue, black and brown, the default color that comes with the tv is silver.

PICS
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_1.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_2.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_3.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_4.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_5.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_6.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_7.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_8.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...DL46XBR2_9.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...L46XBR2_10.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...L46XBR2_11.jpg
HIGH RES PIC

http://news.sel.sony.com/images/larg..._LEFT_f_lg.jpg


XBR3 august
46" $ 3,899.99
40" $ 3,299.99


differences between XBR3 and the xbr2
High Gloss Piano Black finish(not changeable)


Matching Black Pedestal (table top stand, not changeable)


Black Remote


HIGH RES PIC

http://news.sel.sony.com/images/larg...k_FRONT_lg.jpg


XBR2 and XBR3 remotes
remote picture from Big Picture big sound at the Home Entertainment Expo 2006

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what is DRC-MFv2.5 ? heres a link
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...45E/index.html
 

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Sony announced its fall 2006 Bravia lineup today.


More info with photos at http://www.sony.com/2006TV

XBR3 line (KDL-46XBR3, KDL-40XBR3)

Resolution: 1920x1080 with 1080p input via HDMI

Wide Color Gamut backlight; Bravia Engine Pro with Digital Reality Creation 2.5

Contrast: 1300:1 (static)

Response time: 8 ms

Viewing angle: 178 degrees

Inputs: HDMI (3), component (2), S-video (2), PC

Tuners: ATSC, NTSC, QAM

Color: Gloss black inside "floating glass" frame

Available: August

MSRP: $4,600 (46-inch), $3,800 (40-inch)

XBR2 line (KDL-46XBR2, KDL-40XBR2)

Resolution: 1920x1080 with 1080p input via HDMI

Wide Color Gamut backlight; Bravia Engine Pro with Digital Reality Creation 2.5

Contrast: 1300:1 (static)

Response time: 8 ms

Viewing angle: 178 degrees

Inputs: HDMI (3), component (2), S-video (2), PC

Tuners: ATSC, NTSC, QAM

Color: Silver inside "floating glass" frame; colored bezel inserts available ($300)

Available: Now shipping

MSRP: $4,300 (46-inch), $3,500 (40-inch)

XBR2 line (KDL-32XBR2)

Resolution: 1366x768

Wide Color Gamut backlight; Bravia Engine

Contrast: 1300:1 (static)

Response time: 8 ms

Viewing angle: 178 degrees

Inputs: HDMI (1), component (2), S-video (2), PC

Tuners: ATSC

Color: Silver with black bezel

Available: September

MSRP: $2,000

V2500 line (KDL-46V2500, KDL-40V2500)

Resolution: 1920x1080 with 1080p input via HDMI

Wide Color Gamut backlight; Bravia Engine

Contrast: 1300:1 (static)

Response time: 8 ms

Viewing angle: 178 degrees

Inputs: HDMI (2), component (2), S-video (2), PC

Tuners: ATSC, NTSC, QAM

Color: Silver with black bezel

Available: September

MSRP: $3,800 (46-inch), $3,000 (40-inch)


Will update as more info is available.
 

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So with the XBR3's, basically you're paying an extra $300 for a black bezel? Is that the only difference from the XBR2 line?


Only one HDMI on the 32-inch XBR2?
Might as well get an XBR1 right now ... unless the Bravia Engine is better than the Wega Engine?
 

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OK so do the XBR2 models come with the same DRC and wide-gamut backlight as the XBR3s? Would those account for the $300 difference?


How much is that flourescent backlight going to cost and what is its rated service life?


Any time frame on using LEDs or is that for other types of displays?
 

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From what I can tell, the entry level Bravia's do not have DRC 2.5, which is the main draw for me.

My question is does this new DRC processor even matter past 480i? I read the manual for the UK X2000 model and it states that DRC isn't even active when displaying a 480p or better signal.
 

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My question is does this new DRC processor even matter past 480i? I read the manual for the UK X2000 model and it states that DRC isn't even active when displaying a 480p or better signal.

I really don't know, but I think it relates to all interlaced signals. I believe the specs on the Sony site referred to broadcast HD as benefiting from the new engine. Look here for more --- http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...01%2fsony1.htm
 

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OK so do the XBR2 models come with the same DRC and wide-gamut backlight as the XBR3s? Would those account for the $300 difference?


How much is that flourescent backlight going to cost and what is its rated service life?


Any time frame on using LEDs or is that for other types of displays?

drc v2.5 is in both xbr2 and xbr3

back-lighting is usually rated at 60,000 hours, until we get more specs on the tv this is all i can say

led's back-lighing tv's won't be coming out until around 2009

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My question is does this new DRC processor even matter past 480i? I read the manual for the UK X2000 model and it states that DRC isn't even active when displaying a 480p or better signal.

it might work the same way. the qualia 005 had drc v2 and you could use DCR mode and palette on any signal except pc i think
 

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Wow Sony just dropped the ball on their 32" model. The rest look good though but are expensive.
 

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So with the XBR3's, basically you're paying an extra $300 for a black bezel? Is that the only difference from the XBR2 line?

The number 3 is clearly bigger than 2 so it must be better and that is what you are paying for.
 

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The number 3 is clearly bigger than 2 so it must be better and that is what you are paying for.

your paying $300 for a piano black high gloss finish bezel and table to stand with the same finish and a black remote, many speaker companys make pay extra for this finish.
 

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Hmmm... I just picked up a KDL-V40XBR1 yesterday... just my luck that this PR comes out today... I searched and search for weeks and had nothing but late 2006 as info on the new models.


With the exception of Blue Ray, will any other source look appreciably better on a 40" screen at 1080 as opposed to 720?


I have 30 days to return... what would you do? Is $4000/$4300 the street price or list price?


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Hmmm... I just picked up a KDL-V40XBR1 yesterday... just my luck that this PR comes out today... I searched and search for weeks and had nothing but late 2006 as info on the new models.


With the exception of Blue Ray, will any other source look appreciably better on a 40" screen at 1080 as opposed to 720?


I have 30 days to return... what would you do? Is $4000/$4300 the street price or list price?


Jeff

1080i will look better on this tv. ps3 and pc and eventually hd-dvd players will have 1080p.

those prices are msrp, mabey sony will have the 10% price reduction added to these tv's once they have them for pre-order
 

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1080i will look better on this tv. ps3 and pc and eventually hd-dvd players will have 1080p.

those prices are msrp, mabey sony will have the 10% price reduction added to these tv's once they have them for pre-order

Do we know yet whether or not the PC Input accepts 1920x1080?
 

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Has anyone delved into how the "V" series, also 1080p capable, differs from the "X" series? I'm hoping it's just the "floating glass" design which I can do without, especially for a $500 savings.


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Do we know yet whether or not the PC Input accepts 1920x1080?

no, we just got the press release today

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Did Sony drop QAM tuners in the new XBR models? And what about PBP or PIP?

we just got the press release today, when this tv is up for pre order or actually listed at sonystyle then you will see these features. sony uses twin view not pip
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Has anyone delved into how the "V" series, also 1080p capable, differs from the "X" series? I'm hoping it's just the "floating glass" design which I can do without, especially for a $500 savings.

the v2500 accepts 1080p threw both hdmi, your saving $500 since the tv's doesn't have bravia engine pro with the new DRC-MFv2.5 and has one less hdmi
 

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So no 52" model?

no not yet but a member here said sony canada knows of the 52" and will be around $12,500. this price can't be correct.
 
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