[Paradigm40]



Quote:
Originally Posted by cnjvh /forum/post/21167977


Pink vertical line on the right side of the screen.




It's quite a bit older than the XBR9. I'm not familiar with the XBR9 at all so I really couldn't compare them with any accuracy. XBR4 is a CFFL backlight and XBR9 is LED I think?




Last week. Being delivered today.

To be honest I'm pretty clueless when it comes to TVs. I wouldn't even know how to compare the two.


Do you mind if I ask what you paid for the XBR4? When you purchased it?


Do you remember who you spoke with at Sony?


Thanks for all the info

 

[cnjvh]

Was purchased in Jan 2008 for about 3800 if I remember correct. That was with the extended warranty.


I did not speak to any one person (although I tried). Always talked to a new person but they were all very good at knowing the status of the case.


They did not offer the free TV until I wrote them an email (in response to the offer of a 1600.00 discounted price) politely but firmly explaining my dissatisfaction and specifcally requesting it.


Of course I can in no way guarantee the same results and they are certainly under no legal obligation to do this for anyone. Luck of the draw i guess.


Only advice I can give is reply to the person you've been dealing with and ask. Nothing to lose. That's all I did.

 

[havx]

OK, i´m now an official nx720 owner but have one problem.

well...

1) the look of this tv is gorgeous.

2) picture quality on presets was really horrible (what´s wrong with sony?? most people don´t bother going deep into the picture settings...).

3) after calibration and and turning off motion flow crap etc. the picture was finally very nice.


but...

it was my belief that turning off motionflow (sony), auto motion (samsung), digital motion (philips), and whatever these things are called I would get rid of these horrible digital artifacts.


on the nx720, after turning everything off there is still sense of this effect which practically ruins about everything except bluerays (w. 1080p/24hz playback). My dvd collection is almost unplayable for me on this tv. which is absurd after spending alot of money for a tv.


is this because of 120hz(USA)/100hz(EU) panel or the x-reality chip?


after reading about this problem on the net i found 3 solutions

1) of course turn of motionflow, film mode etc. This works 90%.

2) force output of dvd´s (and other SD stuff ) to 1080i. Didn´t work for me.

3) Set sony scene preset to "Game mode". This actually did improve this.


but still have some amount of soapoperaeffect/videocameffect going on.

Is it possible to fix?? or do I need to sell the tv? get an old sony 50hz bx420?

 

[Daz-man]

Okay guys as part of Sony's replacement program I can own the tv for $1100.00 or the 65HX929 for $4200.00.


Have any of you compared this tv to the HX series?


Not sure what to do.


Thanks

 

[Paradigm40]



Quote:
Originally Posted by cnjvh /forum/post/21168556


Was purchased in Jan 2008 for about 3800 if I remember correct. That was with the extended warranty.


I did not speak to any one person (although I tried). Always talked to a new person but they were all very good at knowing the status of the case.


They did not offer the free TV until I wrote them an email (in response to the offer of a 1600.00 discounted price) politely but firmly explaining my dissatisfaction and specifcally requesting it.


Of course I can in no way guarantee the same results and they are certainly under no legal obligation to do this for anyone. Luck of the draw i guess.


Only advice I can give is reply to the person you've been dealing with and ask. Nothing to lose. That's all I did.

Do you recall who/what email address you wrote to when requesting the free TV?

 

[news_watch]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Daz-man /forum/post/21169145


Okay guys as part of Sony's replacement program I can own the tv for $1100.00 or the 65HX929 for $4200.00.


Have any of you compared this tv to the HX series?


Not sure what to do.


Thanks

Daz,

This is been covered in a number of thread recently.

Do a search and you will find what you are looking for.


nw

 

[Daz-man]



Quote:
Originally Posted by news_watch /forum/post/0



Daz,

This is been covered in a number of thread recently.

Do a search and you will find what you are looking for.


nw

Just did a search for nx720 vs hx929 and nothing

 

[havx]

measured the response time (lag) on the nx720 (only for composite).

72ms and 34ms in game mode. just to calibrate guitar hero for the kids on wii. will check ps3 via hdmi later.

 

[easysoul]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ccg1978 /forum/post/21159122


Did any of you look at the XBR55HX929 before going with the NX720 series? Is there a noticeable pq? Is the motion blur more noticeable on the 720 series?

I was also worried about the blurring with the 720 series. However, after buying the NX rather than the HX929 and watching for two weeks, I can see no noticeable difference. Occasionally, yes; but rarely do I find anything distracting.

The other major difference, and again most of the time you won't notice it, is in the blacks. The NX is quite good; the HX929 is exceptional. You may notice it once in a while in dark movies, but most of the time you won't.

For the money, the NX is an exceptional buy.

Note: I have not watched the 3D and this wasn't a major factor for me.

 

[easysoul]



Quote:
Originally Posted by havx /forum/post/21168712


OK, i´m now an official nx720 owner but have one problem.

well...

1) the look of this tv is gorgeous.

2) picture quality on presets was really horrible (what´s wrong with sony?? most people don´t bother going deep into the picture settings...).

3) after calibration and and turning off motion flow crap etc. the picture was finally very nice.


but...

it was my belief that turning off motionflow (sony), auto motion (samsung), digital motion (philips), and whatever these things are called I would get rid of these horrible digital artifacts.


on the nx720, after turning everything off there is still sense of this effect which practically ruins about everything except bluerays (w. 1080p/24hz playback). My dvd collection is almost unplayable for me on this tv. which is absurd after spending alot of money for a tv.


is this because of 120hz(USA)/100hz(EU) panel or the x-reality chip?


after reading about this problem on the net i found 3 solutions

1) of course turn of motionflow, film mode etc. This works 90%.

2) force output of dvd´s (and other SD stuff ) to 1080i. Didn´t work for me.

3) Set sony scene preset to "Game mode". This actually did improve this.


but still have some amount of soapoperaeffect/videocameffect going on.

Is it possible to fix?? or do I need to sell the tv? get an old sony 50hz bx420?

I, too, have the 60 NX720, and I'm not noticing the problems you speak of. Maybe I'm lucky. No blooming, no panel crease, no artifacts. And for whatever reason, most of the factory pre-sets were decent enough. I'm tweaking, but nothing major until a little more burn in; and the TV has been quite watchable.

Note: I do run all my signals through an Integra 50.3 before they ever get to the TV. I'm sure the two video chips in the Integra may be helping.

Are you running the signals direct or through the AVR?

 

[Daz-man]



Quote:
Originally Posted by easysoul /forum/post/0



I was also worried about the blurring with the 720 series. However, after buying the NX rather than the HX929 and watching for two weeks, I can see no noticeable difference. Occasionally, yes; but rarely do I find anything distracting.

The other major difference, and again most of the time you won't notice it, is in the blacks. The NX is quite good; the HX929 is exceptional. You may notice it once in a while in dark movies, but most of the time you won't.

For the money, the NX is an exceptional buy.

Note: I have not watched the 3D and this wasn't a major factor for me.

I have to agree and I'm a guy that wants the best. Sony offered me the NX720 for $1200.00 and the 65HX929 for $4200.00.


I went to the Sony store and they said I should go for the NX720 and this was coming from the assistant manager. I wanted to see a difference between both sets and quite frankly I just couldn't. Not for that price!


If the difference had been noticeable I would have opted for the HX.


I bought a LX900, a Sony, and PQ is awesome and it's last years model.

 

[JeffCar]

JUst had my 60" NX720 calibrated by Jeff Meier today. Have been watching for the better part of the remainder of the day, and I am VERY satisfied with the picture quality at this point. His calibration is truly something special. He utilizes his own proprietary software along with state of the art measurement components, and the resulting picture is quite frankly like looking through a clear pane of glass at real life on the other side. Blacks are deep and featured. Colors pop but are natural in their presentation. No flashlighting. Simply natural in all aspects.


Highly recommend Jeff's services. Beyond a couple of hours of technical work, you get to have a very interesting conversation with a guy who has had an incredible amount of experience with all things audio and video and some very interesting clients.


No - this is not a commercial. Just a happy guy with a very nice TV. The NX720 is a great replacement for a formerly great SXRD XBR2. May it rest in peace.


Jeff

 

[mclassic]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Daz-man /forum/post/0



I have to agree and I'm a guy that wants the best. Sony offered me the NX720 for $1200.00 and the 65HX929 for $4200.00.


I went to the Sony store and they said I should go for the NX720 and this was coming from the assistant manager. I wanted to see a difference between both sets and quite frankly I just couldn't. Not for that price!


If the difference had been noticeable I would have opted for the HX.


I bought a LX900, a Sony, and PQ is awesome and it's last years model.

I was set on a 65HX929. A Sony Store rep made the same recommendation to me. I'm going to pick up a 60" around Black Friday. Hoping to find one for a great price. Glad to see all of the positive feedback.

 

[Mari0]

Yesterday I bought a 55NX720 with SU-B551S TV Stand and I have a problem: when commuting from one source to another the sound remains on the previous source and I have to stop/start the TV to have the right sound channel.

In this moment I have only 2 HDMI sources connected to NX720, a cable receiver and a media player.

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

Mario

 

[havx]

damn that Integra looks nice!


but yes, i´m playing dvd´s and bd from ps3 directly via hdmi.

it´s maybe not correct to call this artifacts. but if you have motionflow or film mode "ON" then these motion effects are happening. Some people like it and some don´t. others can´t see it. These motion gimmicks are on most tv´s sold today.


The problem I have is that even if I turn these things Off I call still see some motion artifacts f.ex when camera is panning horizontally and/or when big objects are moving.

This is definitely happening because the panel is 120/100hz and DVD´s were made for 60/50hz tv´s ?? or what.

and any ideas on how to fix??

Quote:
Originally Posted by easysoul /forum/post/21172968


I, too, have the 60 NX720, and I'm not noticing the problems you speak of. Maybe I'm lucky. No blooming, no panel crease, no artifacts. And for whatever reason, most of the factory pre-sets were decent enough. I'm tweaking, but nothing major until a little more burn in; and the TV has been quite watchable.

Note: I do run all my signals through an Integra 50.3 before they ever get to the TV. I'm sure the two video chips in the Integra may be helping.

Are you running the signals direct or through the AVR?

 

[snash22]

I created the table below to help determine whether Scene Select changes anything beyond what is accessible to the user.


I set all of the user settings the same for each of the Scene Select settings and checked to determine whether there was any difference based on Scene Select. I did this by eye, using test patterns.


I only found 2 differences as noted beneath the table.


Has anyone else noted any other differences between then Scene Select settings when everything else is the same?

	General	Cinema	Cinema	Sports	Music	Animation	Photo	Game	Game	Graphics
Picture mode	Custom	Cinema1	Cinema2	Sports	Custom	Animation	Custom	Std	Orig	Graphics
Backlight	2
Picture	max
Brightness	52			a
Color	52
Hue	0
Color Temp	warm1						b
Sharpness	Min
Noise reduction	Off
Mpeg	Off
Dot	Off
Motion F	Off
CineMotion	Off
Advanced
Black Corrector	Off
Adv. Contrast	Off
Gamma	min
Led Dynamic	Low
Auto light limit	Off
Clear white	Off
Live color	Off
Detail enhancer	Off
Edge enhance	Off
Skin naturalizer	Off
i/p Conversion	Quality
White balance
R-Gain	0
G-Gain	-2
B-Gain	0
R-Bias	0
G-Bias	-2
B-Bias	0

a-Sports seems to increase, perhaps crush blacks

b-Photo has a warmer color temp than others

c-UNVERIFIED - -Scene modes General to Animation allows all the backlight LED's to completely turn off. Scene modes Photo to Graphics leaves all the backlight LED's at a dim level and they don't completely turn off.

d-Note - ambient sensor and eco settings are OFF.

 

[boxterduke]

Hello all, I'm thinking of getting the KDL55NX720. I'm not really looking for 3d feature however I was looking for an Internet TV and after seeing the monolithic TVs at the store that's why I decided to get an NX instead of an EX series.


Now for my question, does the TV stream from a server? Right now I have the PS3 connected to my current TV on the main floor (and it streams from my server). Once I get the new TV, both the old TV and the PS3 will go to the basement. If the NX is able to stream from my server then there is no need for me to get another PS3 to connect to it.


So does it stream for a server? I use both TVsersity and PS3 Media server on my server to stream to the house.


Also how is the browser on it? Is is easy to navigate sites on it? Does the browser stream well from youtube and other sites?


Thanks

 

[Blackvette94]

Can anyone comment on the picture uniformity with games? Specifically panning left to right in shooters and racing games. My hx909 does not have very good uniformity IMHO and when checking out the 46nx720 at Best buy it looked to have better uniformity then my 52hx909 . Any insight here?


Also if anyone can verify if the NX720 can do true 4:4:4 chroma ( in pc or game mode) ? ( the hx909 series did 4:4:4 correctly in game and pc mode)


How to check to see if the tv has the correct 4:4:4 chroma:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post19349700

 

[snash22]



Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke /forum/post/21178832


Also how is the browser on it? Is is easy to navigate sites on it? Does the browser stream well from youtube and other sites?

Thanks

The browser is pretty slow. Doesn't seem to accept flash, no ability to download anything.


Navigating is pretty slow, if there was a way to hook up a keyboard/mouse it could be better.

 

[easysoul]



Quote:
Originally Posted by havx /forum/post/21177667


damn that Integra looks nice!


but yes, i´m playing dvd´s and bd from ps3 directly via hdmi.

it´s maybe not correct to call this artifacts. but if you have motionflow or film mode "ON" then these motion effects are happening. Some people like it and some don´t. others can´t see it. These motion gimmicks are on most tv´s sold today. And makes it easier on non-experts like myself.


The problem I have is that even if I turn these things Off I call still see some motion artifacts f.ex when camera is panning horizontally and/or when big objects are moving.

This is definitely happening because the panel is 120/100hz and DVD´s were made for 60/50hz tv´s ?? or what.

and any ideas on how to fix??

I'm not an expert by any means, which is one reason I invested a little more time in research and a little more money in buying an "upscale" AVR.

With its video chips it semi-future proofs TVs coming out over the next several years.


So, I would look around (there are great boards here on AVRs), find one in my price range, and go for it. I would take one with the 4K chip capability built in. Even if they never mass produce those TVs in great quantity, it processes today's signals in a super way.

So let the AVR do all the work and let the TV be your display.

I don't think 5.1 or 7.1 should matter. Actually fewer features with better chips is a great way to go.

Hope you get it worked out.