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In my experience using the LLDV trick, even on regular HDR10, produces much better image quality than just using a static curve, Panasonic Optimizer or not. It isn’t even close.

On what device ? What about Panasonic SDR2020 output ?


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On what device ? What about Panasonic SDR2020 output ?

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Sony x700 and x800m2 which I upgraded to. I had a Panny 820 and tried sdr 2020 on it and the results were nowhere near as good as what I see using LLDV now on sony. It’s the reason I sold the Panny. You need hdfury too though.
 

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I've been testing this player together with a Panasonic 820 on an LG C9. From what I can tell, the Sony's default HDR setting is a bit brighter than the Standard setting on the Panasonic. If I change it to Natural on the Panasonic, the picture is more similar to the Sony.

Can anyone else confirm this? I did a simple testing by switching back and forth using the same disc. But no measurements were done.
 

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Can someone tell me how to output DD+ audio from the X800M2 on Netflix? The only audio output the thing will give me is DD 5.1, you know, AC3 low quality. When I play back on my TV, a Sony X950H, I get DD+, and it sounds better, but I am going through the X800 because I can toggle DV off, which is broken on my TV. At a loss here...have to choose between video and audio... :(

*Amazon Prime plays back as DD+.

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so if you are only interested on the SDR2020 feature you will have to go the Panasonic route but I would recommend the UB9000 given its additional support for projectors.
Do you think the ub9000 vs UB820 are much different for hdr optimizer ? I think the 9000 allows you to set lower nits (I will be at only 75 nits on rs4500)
The UB820 (500 nits) and UB9000 (500 nits and 350 nits) settings are only used with the HDR Optimizer when you output HDR.

If you're going with the SDR2020 option the display type is ignored, so there is no difference in the tone mapping between the UB820 and the UB9000.
 

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Has anyone heard anything about a possible next-gen model? I am currently using the previous model, X800, and I am not sure whether to upgrade to X800M2 or wait for the next model next year? The only relevant difference between the X800 and X800M2 appears to be Dolby Vision, but I have very few discs with Dolby Vision and am not sure how many more will I buy till next year ...
 

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Has anyone heard anything about a possible next-gen model? I am currently using the previous model, X800, and I am not sure whether to upgrade to X800M2 or wait for the next model next year? The only relevant difference between the X800 and X800M2 appears to be Dolby Vision, but I have very few discs with Dolby Vision and am not sure how many more will I buy till next year ...
I’m curious if they’ll be a next gen, are DVD players still selling well with all of the streaming going on nowadays?
 

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Likely be Spring 2021 before you see a "M3" or whatever.
 

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VP9.2 and WEBM container is supported...
Tested today - Opus codec not supported...
It turns out there appears to be no way to output LLDV from 4k/vp9 content. The player cannot handle vp9 muxed into mp4, and youtube doesn't use avc1 for 4k encoding. Oh well, what a shame....:mad:
 

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It turns out there appears to be no way to output LLDV from 4k/vp9 content. The player cannot handle vp9 muxed into mp4, and youtube doesn't use avc1 for 4k encoding. Oh well, what a shame....:mad:
I use Handbrake to convert those YT VP9.2 HDR clips into HEVC PQ (AVC is not used for HDR anyway).
Granted, this does not pay off for view-once material.
 

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VP9.2 stuff in mkv is not a problem. It's those non-HDR vp9-4k clips that will benefit from the LLDV treatment.
 

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Gave handbrake a spin on a kabylake, and, oh dear, the 45min hr-sinfonieorchester clip took almost a day and a half to encode in order to match the source bit-rate. I suppose one would not mind doing this sort of thing if he or she is a CAC fan;), but let's hope future concerts are released in v92 PQ format.
Now, if only high quality audio of this masterpiece is available...
 

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This article from last January, after the 2020 CES, has some interesting observations about new UHD Blu-ray players.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1579085840

Yea, I read that. I find the idea that everyone is supposed to move on to streaming completely idiotic. First of all, the quality of streamed content is nowhere near the quality of the UHD discs, I completely don't get those people who keep writing that you can't see the difference between HD and 4K unless you screen is gigantic (I also don't get the idea that you "have to" sit far away from your screen - this was reasonable at the time of CRT tubes, but not anymore). Secondly, the internet connection (and especially its speed) is way less reliable than the electricity supply, so I can watch my discs any time I want and not while the internet is working and/or while I keep paying for streaming subscriptions. I definitely want to have a UHD player and since mine does not support Dolby Vision, I certainly want to upgrade, I'm just not sure if I should just do it now, or I should wait for the next years model. And despite what the people write in this article, I can't believe that there won't be one.
 

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ubp-x800m2 firmwae

I was wondering if anyone has a copy of the previous firmware for Sony ubp-x800m2? I regret downloading the update recently as I ripped my SACD disc's and was playing DSF files natively through my network from my NAS which eliminated the hassle of switching disc's and the only difference I noticed in the new firmware is Sony disabled this function. I am assuming from them not supporting Gracenote anymore as apparently that was the only change in the readme log. It now says no supported files under network music. I have stayed away from Sony products for years because of this sort of practice from them. I purchased this unit for it playback capabilities and they have no right me taking away features that I paid for. Not happy with them. Firmware updates are supposed to upgrade not downgrade a unit and take away features!

I would greatly appreciate it if someone would upload or supply a link to the previous firmware. Canadian version preferred but US version should work!

Thanks
 
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