AVS Forum banner
1 - 20 of 59 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,060 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
We have seen a lot of Android-based media streaming boxes with XBMC support. One of the aspects which has made the enthusiasts shy away from such boxes is the absence of full Blu-ray compatibility. Recently, this product was brought to my attention:

http://vidon.me/android_blu_ray_box.htm


These guys seem to be partnering with the developers of DVDFab to bring full Blu-ray ISO / folder structure functionality to the higher-end box (AV200).


The AV200 appears very interesting with these specifications:


CPU: Cortex™-A7 Quad-Core 1.3GHz (AllWinner A-31)

GPU: SGX544MP2 Eight-Core

RAM: 2GB DDR3

Storage: 8GB

Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g/n


Full specifications here: http://vidon.me/android_blu_ray_box.htm#specifications


HD audio passthrough is being promised. Blu-ray menu functionality too! If these specifications pan out, it would make an interesting box indeed. Just placing this thread here to get user opinion / owners to chime in with their experience.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
36 Posts
That thing has a lot of promise.


I need a damn Boxee replacement already! I saw a few of these on Kickstarter and I'm hoping something with a quick XBMC will show up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
858 Posts
Possibly but it remains to be seen, wait until it appears on the market.


I don't know how they will manage menu support as the libbluray open source BD menu system only works on a handful of titles, so they must be plugging something else into XBMC (while avoiding Cinavia too). Still very interesting to see what comes out of it.


Vidonme are an XBMC sponsor like Pivos who on their forums have also said their next box will do HD audio bitstreaming and 24Hz too.


Looks like things are finally coming together with some good stuff in the pipeline.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,724 Posts

Quote:
I need a damn Boxee replacement already! I saw a few of these on Kickstarter and I'm hoping something with a quick XBMC will show up.
Intel NUC with OpenELEC if you don't need Netflix. Works great as a turn on and use XBMC appliance. If you do need Netflix, then XBMC installed under Windows.


The VidOn.me box looks interesting, but we need to see what and how it actually delivers as we've seen plenty of hype and disappointing delivery too many times by too many manufacturers before. For example, things like "it will support 3D movies from head to toe in the near future" should be taken with a grain of salt. I tried the Pivos DS (too sluggish, even under Linux), the Little Black Box (ditto, and buggy), and G-Box Midnight MX2 (ditto).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts

I ask Dvdfab the other day about this av200 media player that they are selling for 225. if it was 32 bit or 64-bit they stated that it's 32 bit has a a7 chip , and it will pass thru hd master 7.1 uncompressed. should be fast enough but right now I've got a laptop 64-bit running windows seven and has an HDMI output connector . I have that connected to Sony 7. 1 Video Ctr. and I'm using the power DVD 13, working really nice playing my iso files ect . can conrol menu via ipad mini or phone using their app. I was temped to order the new av-200 player but im tired of wasting my money being their unwilling beta tester all these years ha. Im waiting for someone else to take the plung ha. i could buy it and send it back but from alaska it cost big bucks. It would be nice to have a hardware media player to free up my laptop. Someone buy it ha. Tom
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
I asked DVDFab and Vidon about their claiming credit for work done by PIVOS and XMBC.ORG regarding porting xmbc to a hardware platform. They didn't reply but just deleted my question.


I'm not going to buy a product that from the get go isn't being fully honest and claiming credit for the work someone else did.


Could be an oversight on their part on their web site. Which happens. But then you correct the misrepresentation, you don't ignore the question.


All of these hardware units live and breath based on their firmware/software.


Given my experience with DVDFab software PLUS the misrepresentation I'd be very hesitant to buy one of these units. For the price you are looking at a med8er product........

http://xbmc.org/xbmc-for-android/
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts

Thanks for that great info.  Its to bad dvdfab and many other american product is be taken over by other countrys. They dont seem to have to follow the same rules . Doesnt do much good to have a patent anymore. for now ill just be happy using my laptop out big screen.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
The only way the arm of the law as controlled by Hollywood business can be avoided is for these folks to be based in somewhere like China. Other wise we'd not have any software that enables us to archive our blurays and use them on our media servers.


I understand why they are based in China.


I am one of those who owns all the blurays I archive. When challenged by that I always offer to take a picture of my bluray library to demonstrate the truth of it. But let's be honest software like DVDFab, ANYDvd, Imtoo, etc., are being use to copy unowned sources. The only way those who make those software products can get away with it is to not be American, or western friendly country, based.


That is of course way off subject.


DVDFab and Vidon.me could have corrected their misrepresentation but did not. Their reaction confirms my suspicion and hence fuels the lack of confidence about spending nearly 200 bucks on their hardware.


Others can make up their own minds of course.


PIVOS I'm sure will be offering a quad core ARM based product, as noted some very well supported Real-Tek 1186 3D ISO capable products available at that price point as well.


VidOn.Me is mentioned as a sponser on xmbc.org. And that is of course a good thing. It is the taking credit for PIVOS's work that is unsettling.......
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,163 Posts

While I can't comment on the AV200 I can on the AV100 that I got the other day. So far I am not impressed at all. I got it as a "Freebee" when I ordered the DVD Fab All In One Lifetime during the Holidays. I was very hopeful that this was going to be something that would really do most of what I was looking for. While that is still possible so far this is just a very lightweight paperweight! Apparently they are using substandard Ethernet Connectors as I can't get a link on mine for the life of me. If you wiggle the cable around you might get a link for a second or two. The company states that I am not using a "Standard" Ethernet Cable which is funny as I work in a Data Center and deal with / test and certify connections all the time.

 

Anyway they said that they would send me a cable and a connector so I can connect to my existing network cable. The other alternative would be to return it to them which I am not sure where that would be. It shipped to me from New Jersey but came from China so who knows. I will be complaining to DVD Fab who is pushing the product. I hope that they have some influence with them or stops pushing them as I like DVD Fab as a company and hope they don't have any connection with this company.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,042 Posts

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
" I like DVD Fab as a company and hope they don't have any connection with this company."


It appears they are directly connected.


I wish you the best of luck.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,042 Posts
I updated my (AV200) box earlier today. I'm quite happy with the development so far.


Currently, I'm only using it for video file play back but as I understand it these little Android boxes can offer way more.


A few days ago I tested a 'full-disc' .ISO file back-up of Cloud Atlas. Menu navigation worked perfectly...
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
Here's the thing and the main problem with anything DVDFab is connected with. Seeing it with these media players from the get go.


DVDFab abuses its end users by placing them in a position to be forced unpaid beta testers. And if you don't play along, their support/developers decide something is wrong with you.


So its a good thing you're happy with the development so far? How's that? Did you sign on to be a beta tester for unstable hardware?


Sorry but there's a difference between updating firmware on products that are reasonable solid, such as adding DTS MA HD pass through to the WDTV SMP unit, and putting out an untested poorly implemented product and letting end users do the testing for bugs for free.


Remembering that the quad core is near 200 bucks.


Glad you are feeling better about the unit. Get used to being a guinea pig however with endless attempts at getting the thing "right".


I'll wait for PIVOS and their AMLogic quad core unit or maybe even consider a Meder8 product and I'll be at the same price point.


Now if DVDFab would like to give us the unit for next to nothing, be honest about the thing being an end user/community developed unit (in the same vein as open source software) hey I'm all for it. Glad to help. Yea DVDFab. That'd be great and in fact that is what they are doing anyway. I'd be one of the first to sign up to receive the hardware. Really.


That is not what is happening. You get to pay them for the privilege of being their beta testers and they make the money.


Why folks can't seem to see the high end users are chumps factor in that kind of marketing/development strategy is hard for me to understand.


The only way that kind of thing stops is we don't give companies who do business that way our money. My licenses are expiring over the next few months and I'm moving on. Can't imagine buying hardware from them. Especially this kind of hardware.


I'm done posting. I'm actually not that wrapped up with DVDFab's issues as my posts would make it seem.


I do hope for the best for you end users.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts

I did the pre-order back in November. $150 and will ship at the end of November. The bad vibes started up from the start. Even before I got it an email showed up telling me to update the firmware before trying to use it. It arrived on December 26th. I sent my first email of a dozen that day asking for a refund.


I have 2 unRaid server setup with over 2000 blu-ray/dvd rips (folder structure). Out of the box, using SMB in XBMC to stream a movie I had lip synch delay of about 5 seconds with both Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD Master. And audio drop outs every minute or so. By random chance I found it would not pass through DTS HD High Resolution audio ("The American" 2010(?) with George Clooney).


They convinced me to stick with it and I went though 2 or 3 firmware updates in the next couple weeks. Things improved but the audio drop outs persisted. I gave in and asked to return it. It took another week of emails & intervention by my bank (dispute charges) for them to finally give me an address to send it for a refund... in China. I will think long and hard before I jump in on something like this again.


Happy ending... bought a Dune HD Smart D1, generated an index and wall of covers using MyMovies (had that already) and could not be more pleased. Solid as a rock playing anything I throw at it.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
32 Posts

I don't think DVDFab or VidOn.me will delete any posts. VidOn.me doesn't have much experience on Hardware area, so the cooperation with DVDFab is very important, because with DVDFab's tech, they can make the blu-ray navigation on the Android Box. 
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
wolly....


You a DVDFab or Videon.me employee? Representative?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
27 Posts
I had hope this would be a good thing.....its still early and am trying to stay optimistic but it looks like I grab another Dune HD Smart D1 while I can
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,042 Posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirernut697  /t/1500740/official-vidon-me-av200-android-blu-ray-box-thread/0_50#post_24255470


I had hope this would be a good thing.....its still early and am trying to stay optimistic but it looks like I grab another Dune HD Smart D1 while I can
As someone who has been buying, using and testing hardware based media players since 2001. If all you guys want is a device that can play bog standard .MKV files or .ISO files without (Java based) menu's, then you may be better off buying something like a Dune, PCH, Xtreamer etc. Because these Android based media players offer far greater flexibility and offer far greater user interaction than your basic 'plug in and play' media player!


So yes, if you elect to buy one of these 'fully configurable' Android base devices you may (probably will) feel like a beta tester, but that's the nature of these devices. You will however, get a lot out of enjoyment out of them, if you are prepared to spend the time and effort required to put into them!


Like I said before, they are not your basic 'plug in and play' media player device!


EDIT: I guess I should have mentioned that unlike the Dune and PCH devices, these Android devices offer the ability to install (fully configurable) Android based 'Apps' to increase their feature sets. The media player on VidOn.me STB is a custom build of XBMC (currenly v1.0.0.6), which is getting better with every release...
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
4,945 Posts
Huh?


Buy a Dune if you are what technically illiterate and need plug n play? But buy a not ready for prime time piece of hard ware if you are smart and technically savvy so you can fiddle with it?


Really?
 
1 - 20 of 59 Posts
Top