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Might as well start a thread. I just received mine today and have been pretty happy with it so far. Still going.
 

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There are issue with NFS on this device. All you need to do is visit forum.xtreamer.net and you'll see other people having issues also. For one, I can't even connect/view my NFS shares on my unRAID box. O yes, I've tried just about everything I could. The device just refuses to see them. Since there is not legit Xtreamer support all you can do is post on their public forum and hope for the best. I just posted last night. Maybe they'll be up front and honest and say there is an issue or just be silent and not say anything. I do own an Xtreamer fist generation model. The one that was supposed to have all these features on it but never did and that player sees all my NFS shares just fine. Along with my Dune and Popcorn. I really would like to keep this player and not have to return it, but if I'm unable to use NFS (which is what really works for me) then I'll have no choice. Darn, another one bites the dust.
 

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Ahhh, the power of an xstreamer product! You went from "pretty happy" with it to "going to return it" in a little over 12 hours. After all of the broken promises and lack of support for their product line I would never own one of their products, although I do like reading reviews!
 

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Unfortunately that's all it takes is a few hours to find out if something works or not. There is a known big/issue with using NFS on the Sidewinder3. I haven't received any information as to weather or not it will get fixed or not in the coming release, but all I really want to hear is it will be fixed soon. I think I was a little upset in my last post, but calmed down for now. I seriously do like the player and really wish everything was working with it, but if you ever need technical support from the manufacture there actually is no way to get it. Their forum is heavily moderated, so posts are always moved around, merged and hard to find. If so many people have bad vibes about Xtreamer, how are they still in business pumping out like 5 different devices?
 

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Originally Posted by Opentoe /forum/post/21835787


Unfortunately that's all it takes is a few hours to find out if something works or not. There is a known big/issue with using NFS on the Sidewinder3. I haven't received any information as to weather or not it will get fixed or not in the coming release, but all I really want to hear is it will be fixed soon. I think I was a little upset in my last post, but calmed down for now. I seriously do like the player and really wish everything was working with it, but if you ever need technical support from the manufacture there actually is no way to get it. Their forum is heavily moderated, so posts are always moved around, merged and hard to find. If so many people have bad vibes about Xtreamer, how are they still in business pumping out like 5 different devices?

They have really good marketing (or overstating features) to attract new customers. Plus they are backed up by a big company I think.


For features to be fixed or added later, it depends on the SDK (Software development kit) of the RealTek chipset they are using... if other media players with the exact RealTek SoC has that feature and its working, there is a good chance it will get fixed or added. The bad thing is if other RealTek players have unsolved problems, there is a good chance this one will have the same RealTek unsolved problem issues...


Xtreamer 3-4 years ago shook the world by coming out with cheap pricing media players and that was how they got their customer base and built their brand... but now there are many competitors that come out with the same or cheaper pricing so they can't really say they're the lowest or cheapest anymore...


Right now it is hard for the media player brands to get new customers - because the Rokus, Apple TVs, WDTV Lives and other lower priced media streamers are less than $100 are grabbing the general consumer market- at least here in the USA...
 

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They have really good marketing (or overstating features) to attract new customers. Plus they are backed up by a big company I think.


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Xtreamer 3-4 years ago shook the world by coming out with cheap pricing media players and that was how they got their customer base and built their brand... but now there are many competitors that come out with the same or cheaper pricing so they can't really say they're the lowest or cheapest anymore...


Right now it is hard for the media player brands to get new customers - because the Rokus, Apple TVs, WDTV Lives and other lower priced media streamers are less than $100 are grabbing the general consumer market- at least here in the USA...

They seem to be more oriented towards Europe. Their US pricing and support, even worse from Canada, does not bode well for sales over here. There are players that will do more for less and are supported. The thing is when you read their ads it just seems like they have great products and ideas. It might be worth it to buy a product on one of their wish lists. Otherwise it's really a hit a miss thing. If it doesn't work then there's a good chance it will never work.


They really are masters of the ad campaign though.


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would you mind doing a quick review & screenshots for us? how's the UI, navigation and stuff?


i recently got the 3rd gen wdtv and most probably need one more of these boxes. A great fan of the first xtreamer(it did everything i needed) so deciding whether to get xtreamer SW3 or just another wdtv...


thanks mate


EDIT:On a side note, (I might be completely mistaken here) but I feel putting android in these boxes don't add much too the value. Like my top scores would be for a intuitive UI design, minimal bugs, fast operation. But that's me, i don't use the tv for internet. Perhaps those who do might be completely delighted with the android on xtreamer thing. But yeah I agree at least for skyping it would be good but to be honest that remains to be seen because i'd imagine things to clunky if the app is not designed for large screen? just my 2cents..
 

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I'll try to take some pictures. I'm in the market for a new digital camera, but there are too many out there!
 

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There are issue with NFS on this device. All you need to do is visit forum.xtreamer.net and you'll see other people having issues also. For one, I can't even connect/view my NFS shares on my unRAID box. O yes, I've tried just about everything I could. The device just refuses to see them. Since there is not legit Xtreamer support all you can do is post on their public forum and hope for the best. I just posted last night. Maybe they'll be up front and honest and say there is an issue or just be silent and not say anything. I do own an Xtreamer fist generation model. The one that was supposed to have all these features on it but never did and that player sees all my NFS shares just fine. Along with my Dune and Popcorn. I really would like to keep this player and not have to return it, but if I'm unable to use NFS (which is what really works for me) then I'll have no choice. Darn, another one bites the dust.

Why not use SMB? My unRAIDs (and WHS) are setup for NFS and SMB. I use NFS for my Boxee Boxes and SMB for everything else.
 

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Agreed, why not use SMB? I got one of these a couple weeks ago and have had good luck with it so far. Even high bit-rate 3D mkv content works perfectly with it. I tossed a hard drive in it but am considering taking it back out as I have all my content on a ReadyNAS Pro 4 anyway. I thought maybe the internal drive would be useful for jukebox or some other settings but it doesn't seem so and it's not really worth the extra heat to have the drive spinning in the unit.
 

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hmm from what i've read online, NFS has been known to be a more efficient protocol & thus might translate to higher throughput. But that being said, even in my setup I use SMB as it generally works ok and easier to set up. But in cases where nothing else can be improved(range etc), changing from SMB to NFS might allow that high bitrate 1080p to be streamed..
 

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I have not really ran into any 1080p content that I haven't been able to stream smoothly over SMB yet. That said I am streaming from a ReadyNAS Pro 4 with load balanced dual gig ethernet so that likely gives me a higher throughput than average. I'll try the NFS setup to see if I can detect and appreciable differences.
 

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I have not really ran into any 1080p content that I haven't been able to stream smoothly over SMB yet. That said I am streaming from a ReadyNAS Pro 4 with load balanced dual gig ethernet so that likely gives me a higher throughput than average. I'll try the NFS setup to see if I can detect and appreciable differences.

that's great. Yeah i guess on wired ethernet you should be fine with SMB. I forgot to mention earlier my setup is a wireless one. With SMB it does 720p beautifully. Managed to get a few low bitrate 1080p files to play but the rest usually stutter. it's here i feel that perhaps NFS might be able to give that extra throughput. But I've yet to test it out as my NAS is unable to do NFS out of the box(Synology USB Station2).
 

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The Sidewinder3 NFS is broken, doesn't work right now. I need to use NFS because I get much better speeds using that then SMB. NFS/UDP is where I get my best speeds.
 

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guys check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpvLM...1&feature=plcp


they have said they'll release the sw3 version in the next few days...

so far from the video i must say everything looks robust!

this just might change my next purchase to sw3 instead of the wdtv!

Tempting!! This is my other contender: Bluetimes Coopa 3550B....

Does the sidewinder 3 come with 512 or 256MB of memory. I see both figures mentioned on the xtreamer site.
 

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guys check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpvLM...1&feature=plcp


they have said they'll release the sw3 version in the next few days...

so far from the video i must say everything looks robust!

this just might change my next purchase to sw3 instead of the wdtv!

I have to say, the Xtreamer blows away the WDTV. I had all versions of the WDTV and returned them all.
 

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I have to say, the Xtreamer blows away the WDTV. I had all versions of the WDTV and returned them all.

Does it have a graphical interface built in?


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Philip, did you look at the youtube-movie?

Yes I did. I just wasn't sure if that was a shipping version, a beta version, etc ... I am simply a little leary when it comes to that company. If they shipped with that interface then that would be neat.


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