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I tried flashing the firmware on a new Zenith DVB318 (build date Feb. 2005). Well, the old firmware did unlock the component video outputs, but the color is total wrong now. Green has become yellow, and red has become brown. No amount of color adjustments correct this.


Unless somebody knows where to get current firmware to restore this player, it is ruined. Don't use those files!
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That is scary.... There is a contact email address on that KOBE link... Might be worth emailing the author.
You play u gunna pay!!, ive done that with dvd-rw drives, but it was still under the return time limit.
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I tried flashing the firmware on a new Zenith DVB318 (build date Feb. 2005). Well, the old firmware did unlock the component video outputs, but the color is total wrong now. Green has become yellow, and red has become brown. No amount of color adjustments correct this.


Unless somebody knows where to get current firmware to restore this player, it is ruined. Don't use those files!
Try this link:

http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/exper..._firmware.html
I already did. Those two files are the ones that ruined the player. Don't use them on a new DVB-318!
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I already did. Those two files are the ones that ruined the player. Don't use them on a new DVB-318!


Those TWO files? That might be your problem. Did you read the info about the files? One fixes white crush over DVI the other unlocks 1080i over component. Your player can only have 1 version of firmware installed on it at a time. One or the other depending on what you are trying to accomplice not both.
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I already did. Those two files are the ones that ruined the player. Don't use them on a new DVB-318!
Just because you cant accomplish the simple task of flashing a dvd player properly doesn't mean no one else can!


I am so glad I flashed mine and its working great 1080i over component looks almost HD on my Panny 42PX50U.
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Just because you cant accomplish the simple task of flashing a dvd player properly doesn't mean no one else can!


I am so glad I flashed mine and its working great 1080i over component looks almost HD on my Panny 42PX50U.
What's to accomplish? I changed the name of the file like the instructions said and burned it on the CD. The player took it no problem. The component video unlocked. Only one problem now, the colors are all wrong, like I said. What is the build date of your player?
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Those TWO files? That might be your problem. Did you read the info about the files? One fixes white crush over DVI the other unlocks 1080i over component. Your player can only have 1 version of firmware installed on it at a time. One or the other depending on what you are trying to accomplice not both.
Captain obvious to the rescue. Why didn't I think of that before? If you can explain to me how you would actually install both firmware revisions at the same time, I might even try it. Ok, let me spell it out: First I installed the version that is supposed to unlock the component outputs. It did unlock the component outputs, but left the color as I originally posted. After that, I installed the other version, the DVI-white-crush-fix version, hoping to get the color back. That also installed, but no color fix. There are no newer firmaware revisions I know of, and no way to revert to the original factory firmware, unless a service code would do it, which is what I was hoping to find out here.
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i was just about to buy one of these players and do the upconvert over component fix, but now I'm hesitant
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i was just about to buy one of these players and do the upconvert over component fix, but now I'm hesitant
You should be hesitant. While my failure is no guarantee that you will also fail, it is a good indication. The firmware in question is several years old. It is reasonable to believe that the design of the player has changed since then, and the old firmware no longer works correctly with new players. I was quite hesitant myself, since I have had this same problem flashing firmware on printers and routers. In my work, I routinely use firmware for control, DSP, and communications, and I am very cognizant of the subtle problems firmware revisions bring to hardware performance. Add the unknowns of manufacturing hardware revisions, and the chances of success are fading.


That clown who posted above doesn't know the difference between luck and skill.
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i was just about to buy one of these players and do the upconvert over component fix, but now I'm hesitant
Why would you buy a DVD player that doesn't support up conversion over component?
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Why would you buy a DVD player that doesn't support up conversion over component?
There are only a couple left that do, so there arent alot of choices...Many had been sucessfully using the older firmware on their new 318s for quite some time, looks like they finally closed the loophole...
gsmollin: Was the player working fine before applying the old firmware? Perhaps the player got bonked somehow and it's not firmware related? It certainly is possible that the firmware may no longer work on new zeniths. Is there anyway to verify this? Can anyone get a hold of one with a return policy incase it gets bonked too?
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gsmollin: Was the player working fine before applying the old firmware? Perhaps the player got bonked somehow and it's not firmware related? It certainly is possible that the firmware may no longer work on new zeniths. Is there anyway to verify this? Can anyone get a hold of one with a return policy incase it gets bonked too?
Yes, the player was working well before the firmware change.


The only practical way I know of to verify this issue is to try another, and see how much luck we have. There are numerous things that can go wrong during a firmware flash. The file can be corrupted, the CD-R may not be read correctly by the player, or there could be a hiccup during the flash. However, I did do two flashes, the first using the file lv700i1.bin, and the second using lgromout.bin. Both caused the same color problem. That makes it unlikely there was a corrupted bit somewhere in the process, since it was repeated with different files, and the same color response. It looks like the hardware has been revised, and interprets the firmware settings differently. However, a secind unit could be tried, and the result posted here. Who's feeling lucky today?
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So apply the newest official firmware (with the disabled components) and return the unit as DOA.


Sounds like an ISOLATED incident to me.


If I didn't already have a flawless DVB-318 and a perfect Momitsu V-880 I would probably grab one more DVB-318 just for future insurance.


There are still tons and tons of wonderful HD monitors, projectors and displays that are not HDCP compatible and never will be.


Upscaled DVDs at 1080i over component are wonderful.
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Perhaps there was a problem with your component cables, or the way they were hooked up.


That can cause bizarre color shift...
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Captain obvious to the rescue. Why didn't I think of that before? If you can explain to me how you would actually install both firmware revisions at the same time.


Captian obvious here again, my thought was that you may have put both files on the same cd.


Have you tried DLing the file again & re-flashing or is that just so obvious that you didn't feel it was necessary to mention it?
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So apply the newest official firmware (with the disabled components) and return the unit as DOA.


Sounds like an ISOLATED incident to me.


If I didn't already have a flawless DVB-318 and a perfect Momitsu V-880 I would probably grab one more DVB-318 just for future insurance.


There are still tons and tons of wonderful HD monitors, projectors and displays that are not HDCP compatible and never will be.


Upscaled DVDs at 1080i over component are wonderful.
Actually, that's what I did.


You are absolutely right about all that, and I posted this thread to find out if it was an isolated incident, and/or if there was a way to revert to the OEM firmware. So far, I haven't accomplished either of those goals.


Yes, and what about the tons and tons of HD displays that are not HDCP compliant? Will the B*****ds in Hollywood screw them all? And will the b*ds in Hollywood screw over the rest of us when our HDCP display gets on the "compromised key" list, and a new DVD disables the whole system? This is a second thread, of course, but is at the heart of this whole business.
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Perhaps there was a problem with your component cables, or the way they were hooked up.


That can cause bizarre color shift...
Well this is true, although it seems odd that it would suddenly happen just after a firmware flash, when the player and projector and cables were not disturbed. But it is a possibility. I think not, however, since the problem affected green, and if the green RCA connector had fallen out (grr I hate RCA connectors!) I would have lost the whole picture. Red or blue can get lost, but not green since it carries sync in three-cable component. Still, the best thing would be to have some other brave soul try it, and let us know if my results were just bad luck.
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