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OLED's in a bright room?

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audio.hobby

Discussion Starter · Aug 25, 2019

I have a question for those of you who own one of the newer OLED's. How do they perform in a bright large room? I would be primarily watching DirecTV content during the daytime. Various content ranging from sports to old tv shows to occasional movies. At night is when I primarily do movies and 4k material on Firestick.

I currently have a 75" Sony 900f that I have been considering replacing with a 950g due to the poor off axis viewing presented by the 900f. Previously I had a 60" plasma since 2012 that did all the programming at an acceptable level but could not handle the daytime reflections in our family room.

I am just curious if an OLED would work in that room. I am interested in the 65" LG C9 as it is price comparable to the 2 sony's. My main concern is obviously how the LG would perform in that room but also now that I have been spoiled by the 75" screen I wonder if the step down in size would would create buyers remorse down the road.

Finally I was told recently that the Amazon Firestick does a bad job with 4k especially when compared to the Apple TV.

What are your thoughts?

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gomo657

· #2 · Aug 25, 2019 (Edited)

I would say fine the current oleds are considerably brighter than any plasma.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/panasonic-tc-p65zt60-3d-plasma-hdtv-test-bench
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/lg-oled65c8pua-oled-ultra-hdtv-review-test-bench
I watch a c7 with floor to ceiling windows and don’t feel I’m missing anything the excellent contrast beats the lower contrast lcd.

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audio.hobby

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 25, 2019

gomo657 said:
I would say fine the current oleds are considerably brighter than any plasma.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/panasonic-tc-p65zt60-3d-plasma-hdtv-test-bench
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/lg-oled65c8pua-oled-ultra-hdtv-review-test-bench
I watch a c7 with floor to ceiling windows and don’t feel I’m missing anything the excellent contrast beats the lower contrast lcd.

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OK. But how do they handle reflections in a bright room? Also how do they perform at upscaling SD content, or does that depend on the manufacturer. And how do they perform with sports/motion?

gomo657

· #4 · Aug 25, 2019

audio.hobby said:
OK. But how do they handle reflections in a bright room? Also how do they perform at upscaling SD content, or does that depend on the manufacturer. And how do they perform with sports/motion?

Reflections better than my old crt, my lg motion isn’t as good as my Sony lcd. The semi matte screen Sony screen is no match for lg ultra clear. I’m watching CFL now I can see part of the wall during commercials but not during regular content.

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pbz06

· #5 · Aug 25, 2019

I have OLED (a9g) in my main living room. It's bright enough (like the other guy said, OLEDs are actually brighter than what LCDs were a few years ago) for regular content and non critical viewing. I do have to angle the blinds to not have direct sunlight. I can see reflections on my TV though, mostly on dark content.

If it's a real concern, I'd suggest an LCD with good reflection mitigation.

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audio.hobby

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 25, 2019

Since there is no overwhelming evidence that an OLED will out perform the Sony 950g for my situation, I believe my decision is clear.
Thanks

Otto Pylot

· #7 · Aug 25, 2019

audio.hobby said:
Since there is no overwhelming evidence that an OLED will out perform the Sony 950g for my situation, I believe my decision is clear.
Thanks

We have a 65 C8 for the upstairs HTS. Two big windows but there is no direct sunlight on the panel. The wall opposite the C8 is blank in that there are no reflective wall hangings. We have zero reflections in the afternoon with the window blinds up or down and zero reflections on the panel at night with just ambient light.

gomo657

· #8 · Aug 25, 2019

Otto Pylot said:
We have a 65 C8 for the upstairs HTS. Two big windows but there is no direct sunlight on the panel. The wall opposite the C8 is blank in that there are no reflective wall hangings. We have zero reflections in the afternoon with the window blinds up or down and zero reflections on the panel at night with just ambient light.

IMO it’s all about placement my c7 is in front of the window exactly where my lcd was. Like stated earlier fade to black I get some reflection so did my Sony lcd, I had an St60 that couldn’t compete with my bright room even with the blinds closed. The c7 is bright enough.

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audio.hobby

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 25, 2019

Thank you for the input. But an OLED with the size of what I am considering is just too much $. I don't think that I can live with a smaller display now that I am getting used to the 75".

Otto Pylot

· #10 · Aug 25, 2019

gomo657 said:
IMO it’s all about placement my c7 is in front of the window exactly where my lcd was. Like stated earlier fade to black I get some reflection so did my Sony lcd, I had an St60 that couldn’t compete with my bright room even with the blinds closed. The c7 is bright enough.

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Yep, room conditions/window placements all need to be taken into consideration when picking a new panel. Quite often it's a compromise as to what one can live with vs pq. For us, the C8 sits in front of a neutral wall with one window to left about 15' away sitting at a right angle to the panel and another window sitting behind the panel, but off to the right at about 20' and in a little "L" shape alcove. The sitting position is 10' from the couch to the panel.

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8KCRT

· #11 · Aug 25, 2019

FOMO posted this "Bright room glare reflection" review between OLED, QLED, etc.

gomo657

· #12 · Jan 21, 2020

Otto Pylot said:
Yep, room conditions/window placements all need to be taken into consideration when picking a new panel. Quite often it's a compromise as to what one can live with vs pq. For us, the C8 sits in front of a neutral wall with one window to left about 15' away sitting at a right angle to the panel and another window sitting behind the panel, but off to the right at about 20' and in a little "L" shape alcove. The sitting position is 10' from the couch to the panel.

I’ve recently changed my arrangement to the same as you with no ill effect. Reflections are minimal the C8 holds it’s own.

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Kamus

· #13 · Jan 21, 2020

My B9 does fine with the lights on, but then again, I wouldn't consider my room, a bright room.. (sunlight doesn't really get in here)

The main problem I have with my B9 is that it's pretty reflective with the lights on, and I'm not a fan of boosting brightness just to get rid of reflections (so, if i'm watching low APL content I just turn the lights off) my PC monitor does a far better job with reflections, which is good, because I like using it at 80-100 nits, with the lights on.

So, I think you'll be fine in a bright room, just be aware that you'll probably end up boosting the brightness a little too high just to get rid of reflections (and both reflections and higher brightness can cause eye strain, so pick your poison)

onesolo

· #14 · Jan 22, 2020

8KCRT said:
FOMO posted this "Bright room glare reflection" review between OLED, QLED, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCxz2UE0Q48&t=10s

that was supposed to be a bright room?!?! wasn't the light very dimmed?!

Gillietalls

· #15 · Jan 22, 2020

Who really cares about how a TV looks when it's turned off?!?!?!?!

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Kenbar

· #16 · Jan 22, 2020

Oleds cannot compete with better LCD's in terms of brightness. They are more about pure blacks...where they excel.

And possibly one problem Oleds have performing in a bright room is the olight setting would need to be run high. Depending on your viewing habits...or the habits of your family, that could lead to more rapid uneven wearing. Compared to an Oled that is used mostly in darker rooms.

For bright room use I would go with an LCD. Brighter and safer play over time. My thoughts.

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