[HIPER69]

Hey Guy's I'm New To This Thread I Was Wondering I Am Running A Reg Cable To The Tv Now I Am Getting Pay Per View Chanels On The Tv's Sub Chanels Is There Any Way To Keep This Going Like For Ever By The Sub Chanels I Mean 90.1 90.2 90.3 And So On Anybody Else Having The Issue

 

[homcom]



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Originally Posted by HIPER69 /forum/post/0


Hey Guy's I'm New To This Thread I Was Wondering I Am Running A Reg Cable To The Tv Now I Am Getting Pay Per View Chanels On The Tv's Sub Chanels Is There Any Way To Keep This Going Like For Ever By The Sub Chanels I Mean 90.1 90.2 90.3 And So On Anybody Else Having The Issue

It sounds like you seeing other people's on demand streams. If you ask your question again with punctuation and some sentence structure I might be able to help you out.

 

[miniz]

So you are asking if there is anyway that you can continue to keep stealing cable services? A very bright person we have indeed.

 

[Ratman]

He's not stealing... it's sent unencypted. It happens in many cable areas.

Bright person indeed!

 

[miniz]

So because the signal is sent unencypted it is OK to steal it??? Let me put that in terms you can understand, that are from your technology time period. If the cable company is sending you an analog signal that you are not paying for, yet is NOT SCAMBLED, you can take it for free without paying for it??? WRONG. That is stealing!!! Unless he is watching duplicated (meaning network) HD broadcasts without paying (which he is not) then he is stealing.

 

[bfoster]



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Originally Posted by miniz /forum/post/0


So because the signal is sent unencypted it is OK to steal it??? Let me put that in terms you can understand, that are from your technology time period. If the cable company is sending you an analog signal that you are not paying for, yet is NOT SCAMBLED, you can take it for free without paying for it??? WRONG. That is stealing!!! Unless he is watching duplicated (meaning network) HD broadcasts without paying (which he is not) then he is stealing.

What an idiot. If you are paying for cable and they send additional programming into your house in the clear there is no law saying you can't watch it.

 

[miniz]



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What an idiot. If you are paying for cable and they send additional programming into your house in the clear there is no law saying you can't watch it.

I suggest you re-read or in your case READ the user agreement with your cable co. This is illegal.

 

[bfoster]

Wrong.

 

[miniz]

You didn't read it, did you? Why am I not surprised!

 

[Ratman]

For analog cable:

If you call to unsubscribe or cancel service(s) and the cableco does not filter/disconnect services, that's on them and not stealing IMO. If you don't call... then yes, that's theft of service.


For digital cable channels:

Channels that the cableco does not want anyone to receive for "free" are encrypted at the head end. So, if you get them... (without using a illegal device/"black box), apparently they don't care and anyone with a QAM tuner can receive them. Getting VOD unencrypted is quite "normal" in many areas. Although, many times, you only get to watch for a few minutes sometimes since the channel(s) get frequently/dynamically reassigned. Also, you may have to suffer watching someone fast forwarding, rewinding, pausing... etc.

 

[miniz]

thank you for making up your own user policy.

 

[Ratman]

It makes more practical sense more than your blabbering.

 

[miniz]

Too bad the cable company doesn't agree with it.

 

[Ratman]

Oh... so I guess if one informs the provider and the provider takes no action(s), then I should stop watching TV, keep calling and demand that they remove/disconnect/filter/encrypt etc... and wait for them to get around to it? I know of two people that cancelled cable video (retaining HSI) and still get all video........ for over two years.


Get real! All you are required to do is to inform them. That's it. If they don't act upon that then "you" are no longer liable.


As for digital... again, it's on them since it's encrypted at the head end. Every cable subscriber is capable of legally receiving whatever they decide to send 'in the clear'. I think that's the whole point of QAM tuners.

 

[AKA BUD]



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It makes more practical sense more than your blabbering.

May I just say.....You rock Ratman!!!!

 

[miniz]



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May I just say.....You rock Ratman!!!!

How's that stolen cable treating you?

 

[AKA BUD]



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How's that stolen cable treating you?

Nice try, but that barb won't work on me.....I have Dish Network....and I'm paying for it.

 

[homcom]



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Originally Posted by miniz /forum/post/0


How's that stolen cable treating you?

So what exactly do you suggest he do?


-Cancel his cable because the cable company is sending him something for free.

-Get rid of his TV with the QAM tuner because it is picking up "illegal" signals.

-Stop watching any TV what so ever.


QAM tuners are perfectly legal, cable companies know they exist, it is their prerogative to send whatever channels they want to in the clear.

 

[bfoster]



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Originally Posted by Ratman /forum/post/0


Oh... so I guess if one informs the provider and the provider takes no action(s), then I should stop watching TV, keep calling and demand that they remove/disconnect/filter/encrypt etc... and wait for them to get around to it? I know of two people that cancelled cable video (retaining HSI) and still get all video........ for over two years.


Get real! All you are required to do is to inform them. That's it. If they don't act upon that then "you" are no longer liable.

Ratman you've gone too far with this one. Watching TV while not paying for it at all is cable theft.

Much different than watching non-scambled digital.

 

[Ratman]

I don't believe so. If they do not come to your residence to properly degrade/remove service, what are you supposed to do? Keep calling them?


As an example (analog only):

Say I'm an extended basic cable subscriber with HSI ($100 per month). I contact the provider that I only want "antenna/lifeline" service and HSI ($50 per month). They never do anything. The subscriber is "wrong"?


All one has is a cable feed. Any external methods/devices used to "control" subscribed programming is entirely the provider's responsibility after I make that call.


BTW.... I am NOT one of those individuals that I've referenced.