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* Updated: 7/18/10 *

Updates:
7/18/10 - Updates sales people/areas - link

Sorry, we didn't do a very good job of updating that info, largely because we were sort of waiting to see what happened with what states went where.


If Mike would be so kind as to update the dealer info in post #3, Pennsylvania and Maryland are now part of my territory, (East Street Audio) Alabama and Florida have moved from Blue Shift Audio's territory to that of a new dealer, Engulf Audio, and Louisiana is now part of Phenomenhan AV's territory. The remaining states that used to be served by Calliope Home audio are in limbo, so any dealer can help people in those areas.



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*Post #1 under construction*


Based on recent events and post ( link ) I thought it would be a good idea to start an Onix thread.


I like, many others, were first introduced to Onix as a name through the association with av123.

I met Mr. Pu at the Onix suite in the Venetian at CES 2009 and really liked the sound and style of the electronics and speakers.

av123 and Onix are no longer associated (see post #2).
The av123/Onix connection is only of historical significance now.
There are many Onix dealers now and I'm sure they would appreciate the breakaway from av123.

I have no financial association with Onix.


Per Hugh Nguyen's site :

"During the Consumer Electronic Show (CES) 2009, we were approached by Sound Art of China (SAC) to be their Onix North American distributor."


Index
- Onix & av123 are not the same ( post #2 )
- Onix Products
--- Speakers
--- Amplifiers
--- CD Players
- Onix N. American Dealers -- see post #3 below

- Onix origins/timeline - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post18282013
- AVS Onix threads
--- Official Onix DAC25 Thread
--- Onix xcd99 thread
--- "Calling on all Onix Reference speaker owners" thread
- Other Onix threads/forums

--- Tweak City Audio (TCA) - "The Official Onix & Melody Thread"- link

--- TCAOnix/Melody thread with a lot of info: http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/...ead.php?t=2619



Note: There are many other companies that have names similar to Onix
Official name: Onix of England
(I've also seen -- Onix Electronics Co, Ltd from England)



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av123 and Onix are no longer associated

av123 forum (1-11-09 post #1)
AVS Link(3-7-10 in av123 thread)

Here are some of the old posts (and links) I dug up on...

Onix =/ (does not equal) av123
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI
It's an interesting thread title since Onix is no longer owned/sold by av123.

There are threads at av123 and TCA discussing this.

Mike

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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil
um...what do you mean no longer sold by them? isn't the entire ROCKET line made with the "ONIX" name on them?

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Originally Posted by Mike_WI
Some links:

Most useful -- LINK - av123 thread I started with responses from MLS, etc.
forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showthread.php?t=40343
replace -dot- with a "."

HTS thread (I started)

TCA general thread on av123 forum

New av123 forum site link - LINK
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MLS response (1-11-09) in first link thread above (post #38):
(bold added)
forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showpost.php?p=722759&postcount=38
replace -dot- with a "." "Good Afternoon...

Very basic reply for now - and perhaps later a more detailed one...

ONIX belongs to Mr. Pu - I am however 50% owner of this brand in America. Mr. Pu came to me some time back as he told me he wanted to sell his brand to a famous Chinese Company (yes, I know who it is - but I'm not saying as I promised I would not)... I told Pu he should do it - and forget about my ownership in the brand here... He should GO FOR IT...

ONIX is Mr. Pu's brand

Rocket is the property of av123 (always has been - always will be)...

Strata is the property of av123 - but we allowed SAC to build a special version with a second tweeter for their markets...

UL/UF - av123

I also completely agreed that we would not sell ONIX electronics this year... With the x-series electronics we are now in that market - and our focus will continue to be on x... We will also have our own CD Players this year - as well as our NMT (Network Media Tank)... We were owed some replacements and such - and that has been taken care of. There are a few pieces of business still open - but these will be closed off soon...

My best always to Pu and this brand...

The rest I'll leave for another time...

Best...

mls"

and

"Rocket boxes no longer have the ONIX logo - and they haven't had this for many months...

Best...

mls"

and

"Rocket II belong solely to av123 as do LS as noted above...

x-series is of course the property of av123...

RSL II is owned by 4 guys (I'm one of them)... [URL='http:/images/smilies/smile.gif%5B/IMG']http://forums.**********/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG[/URL] ][/I]

[I]Best...[/I]

[I]mls"[/I]

[I]and from me...[/I]

[I]"In response to a post (now deleted?) commenting/asking about Onix England.[/I]

[I]This is what is on the Onix catalog...[/I]

[I]Onix England[/I]
[I]Onix Electronics Co, Ltd from England"[/I]


[I]Does that help.[/I]


[I]-- Mike[/I]

[I]PS - EDIT to delete broken (by AVS) links.[/I]
[I]See link above and follow thread. post #38 is first MLS comment[/I]

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Originally Posted by [B]grey9hound[/B]
[I]No,[/I]
[I]The links are broken.[/I]

Quote:
Originally Posted by [B]Mike_WI[/B]
[I]Argh.[/I]
[I]I tried to delete and add ways to access links.[/I]
[I]I did "cut and paste" some of the more pertinent stuff in case people didn't want to follow the thread and all the links.[/I]

[I]Here is the main start of comments:[/I]
[I][URL='http:/showpost.php?p=722759&postcount=38']forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showpost.php?p=722759&postcount=38[/URL][/I]
[I]replace -dot- with a "."[/I]

[I]Hopefully that now helps.[/I]
[I]I do think this is of potential interest to people.[/I]


[I]Mike[/I]

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[B]From Hugh (OnixMan @ AVS) 3-6-10:[/B]
[URL='http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18265063#post18265063']Link[/URL]

"To be clear and as far as I know, Onix is Mr. Pu's and Rockets is av123's.
There is NO Onix Rockets. "

[B]From Tim Evans (wooferus @ AVS) 3-6-10:[/B]
[URL='http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18265330#post18265330']Link[/URL]

"And to take that a step further, just for the record, the rockets, the mini's, and everything X-series are AV123 owned designs and not Onix, despite the fact that the labels for a while said Onix. The reference series speakers, onix branded electronics, cables, and various onix branded accessories were and still are owned by Onix.

A lot of people have been confused primarily because AV123 called the rockets Onix Rockets for a while, but there are also a few who have x-series stuff that says Onix on the back. "


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*EDIT*

FYI...av123 links may be down during the av123 site re-creation...
 

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From woofersus @ Tweak City Audio (TCA) Onix/Melody thread :

Personnel list:

Hugh Nguyen

North American Distributor: Onix and Melody
www.angelcityaudio.com
[email protected]

Summit Audio Video

Dealer for: California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii.

Owner: John Casler
www.summitaudiovideo.com
[email protected]

Skiing Ninja

Dealer for: Colorado, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Kansas, North Dakota, Nevada, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Oklahoma.

Owner: "A Ninja" / Sean Parque
www.skiingninja.com
[email protected]

Motor City Custom Audio

Dealer for: Canada. Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, and Michigan.

Owner: Kevin Taylor
[email protected]

Calliope Home Audio *NO LONGER*
Dealer for: Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, District of Columbia, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware.
Owner: Michael Bishop
www.CalliopeHomeAudio.com
[email protected]

Blue Shift Audio

Dealer for: North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

Owner: Derek Wayland
www.blueshiftaudio.com
[email protected]

East Street Audio

Dealer for: West Virginia, Ohio, and Kentucky
*ADD: Pennsylvania, Maryland*

Owner: Tim Evans
www.EastStreetAudio.com
[email protected]

PhenomeNhan Audio Video

Dealer for: Texas, Louisiana

Owner: Nhan Hoang
www.phenomenhanav.com
[email protected]

Engulf Audio
Dealer for: Alabama, FloridaOwner: Robert Meeks
[email protected]


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EDIT: 7-18-10 (changes made)
- Sorry, we didn't do a very good job of updating that info, largely because we were sort of waiting to see what happened with what states went where.

If Mike would be so kind as to update the dealer info in post #3:
- Pennsylvania and Maryland are now part of my territory, (East Street Audio)
- Alabama and Florida have moved from Blue Shift Audio's territory to that of a new dealer, Engulf Audio,
- and Louisiana is now part of Phenomenhan AV's territory.
- The remaining states that used to be served by Calliope Home audio are in limbo, so any dealer can help people in those areas.

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From woofersus @ Tweak City Audio (TCA) Onix/Melody thread :

Onix Product Line

Speakers:

Monitor 1

Music 1

Concerto

Bravo

ERT Supertweeter

Amplifiers:

XIA-160

RA-125

A-65

A-55

CD Players:

XCD-50

SACD-15

CD-15

CD-10

DAC's:

DAC-25

Stands:

25" Stand in Satin Black or Piano Black, top platform sized for Bravo or Monitor 1

Cables:

Power Cables - Thunder II OFC, Statement OCC, Statement II OCC, Reference Silver

Interconnects - Blue OFC, Master OFC, Grand Master OFC

Speaker Cables - SP200 OFC, Master II OFC, Statement OCC, Reference Silver
 

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So I bought a pr. of PBEM Reference 3s from a chap in Lost Wages, had them shipped to The Skiing Ninja for his Master xover with platinum cap upgrade, plus No-Rez treatment of the boxes. They've been playing in my office for a week at low volume - 7x24 - for break-in of the overs.


This morning I pulled them out to my main listening area, they sound 'freakin' amazing. First Miles Davis 'Kinda Blue', then Steely Dan 'Aja', now Beethoven's 5th symphony. It's a thing of beauty to listen to.


Yet on searching online at the various ONIX resellers, no one seems to be carrying the Reference 3.


That would be a shame if this speaker fell by the way-side.
 

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So I bought a pr. of PBEM Reference 3s from a chap in Lost Wages, had them shipped to The Skiing Ninja for his Master xover with platinum cap upgrade, plus No-Rez treatment of the boxes. They've been playing in my office for a week at low volume - 7x24 - for break-in of the overs.


This morning I pulled them out to my main listening area, they sound 'freakin' amazing. First Miles Davis 'Kinda Blue', then Steely Dan 'Aja', now Beethoven's 5th symphony. It's a thing of beauty to listen to.


Yet on searching online at the various ONIX resellers, no one seems to be carrying the Reference 3.


That would be a shame if this speaker fell by the way-side.

The Reference line has been Quasi-discontinued (in limbo) for a while, but Hugh is considering bringing the Ref 2's and Ref 3's back and has been working on a new center channel to replace the Ref 100. Ultimately the fate of the Ref 3's will depend on the level of interest. They're definitely a very nice speaker. (Ref 2's were under-rated too IMHO) If anybody has strong feelings about keeping either of those two speakers alive, please say so!


The new center channel will likely be introduced either way, as it can be used as an L/C/R. It uses the same drivers as the Ref 3 minus the supertweeter.
 

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For those who don’t know the Onix background, from my understanding Adam Worsfold and Tony Brady started Onix Electronics in England back in 1986 above a shoe shop in Brighton Sussex England after working for Thorn EMI. While it was Worsfold and Brady who did the electronics, Thierry Comte of Triangle and Atohm fame did the design work on the Reference series speakers to expand the product line. And in fact if you look at the Reference speaker crossovers of today it states "DESIGNED IN FRANCE" with an Atohm designation, which also makes sense since they utilize Atohm drivers.


Worsfold and Brady ended up liquidating the company in England and it was sold to a Chinese company in 1991, I believe even at that time it was to Mr. Pu. Onix then built and sold both electronics and speakers in Asia.


There have been a group of people like myself who have been very happy with the Reference speakers. And they received good past and present reviews; the one that really sold me on the Reference 3s was Kris Deering’s review, and which later the Secrets team voted them one of their ‘best of the year’ back in 2004.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...s-11-2004.html


I know Mr. Deering has moved on to other speakers in the last few years, but I held out for Dannie Richie’s crossover design that Skiing Ninja markets, which has made them even better.
 

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For those who don't know the Onix background, from my understanding Adam Worsfold and Tony Brady started Onix Electronics in England back in 1986 above a shoe shop in Brighton Sussex England after working for Thorn EMI. While it was Worsfold and Brady who did the electronics, Thierry Comte of Triangle and Atohm fame did the design work on the Reference series speakers to expand the product line. And in fact if you look at the Reference speaker crossovers of today it states "DESIGNED IN FRANCE" with an Atohm designation, which also makes sense since they utilize Atohm drivers.


Worsfold and Brady ended up liquidating the company in England and it was sold to a Chinese company in 1991, I believe even at that time it was to Mr. Pu. Onix then built and sold both electronics and speakers in Asia.


There have been a group of people like myself who have been very happy with the Reference speakers. And they received good past and present reviews; the one that really sold me on the Reference 3s was Kris Deering's review, and which later the Secrets team voted them one of their best of the year' back in 2004.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...s-11-2004.html


I know Mr. Deering has moved on to other speakers in the last few years, but I held out for Dannie Richie's crossover design that Skiing Ninja markets, which has made them even better.

Cool.

Can some Onix people confirm this history timeline?


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Thanks Jack.

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For those who don't know the Onix background, from my understanding Adam Worsfold and Tony Brady started Onix Electronics in England back in 1986 above a shoe shop in Brighton Sussex England after working for Thorn EMI. While it was Worsfold and Brady who did the electronics, Thierry Comte of Triangle and Atohm fame did the design work on the Reference series speakers to expand the product line. And in fact if you look at the Reference speaker crossovers of today it states "DESIGNED IN FRANCE" with an Atohm designation, which also makes sense since they utilize Atohm drivers.


Worsfold and Brady ended up liquidating the company in England and it was sold to a Chinese company in 1991, I believe even at that time it was to Mr. Pu. Onix then built and sold both electronics and speakers in Asia.


There have been a group of people like myself who have been very happy with the Reference speakers. And they received good past and present reviews; the one that really sold me on the Reference 3s was Kris Deering's review, and which later the Secrets team voted them one of their best of the year' back in 2004.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...s-11-2004.html


I know Mr. Deering has moved on to other speakers in the last few years, but I held out for Dannie Richie's crossover design that Skiing Ninja markets, which has made them even better.
 

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That sounds about right.
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Cool.

Can some Onix people confirm this history timeline?


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_WI /forum/post/18282646


Cool.

Can some Onix people confirm this history timeline?


Mike

Sigh .... Yea of little faith.


My memory gets kind of faded, but not from a few months ago .....
 

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This is a weird thread.

Ya, but I like it. The ONIX folks have to start somewhere to seperate themselves from a failed 'partnership'.


Thanks for the history Jack, I have my original xovers on a shelf, I'll have to look at them for the verbiage you mentioned.
 

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Sigh .... Yea of little faith.


My memory gets kind of faded, but not from a few months ago .....

Sorry, I should have asked for confirmation/clarification/expansion.



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Post #3 ( link ) has updated personnel list.


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Engulf Audio
Dealer for: Alabama

Owner: Robert Meeks
[email protected]


Under dealers in post #3.


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Onix is a registered trade mark in the UK that was registered by Adam Worsfold ( myself ) in 1986 and completed in the UK in 1989 . Onix was a company formed and operated in Brighton UK.


The company was 100% under my ownership until July 1991 when I sold it to Micheal O Brien ( Rogers/Swisstone )


Tony Brady was the principle electronics designer along with my self as the person that put production and final cosmetic design on all of the ONIX products . We both had a say on how the product was designed as we had both been through a very comprehensive apprenticeship with Thorn EMI and worked side by side for many years . Tonys talent as a designer was a major reason that Onix became what it did.


Neither of us had a partnership agreement and so at no stage was it ended and neither of us parted on bad terms . We remained friends


Due to breach of contract on the part of Micheal O Brien after the sale of ONIX by myself to him, an extensive litigation ensued that finally passed judgment on my side . It was concluded late in 1999 . During this legal process O Brien sold the assets of the company to a Chinese company/person without title as it had gone into liquidation in 1995 , this was done to avoid the ensuing debts from my successful awards of losses.

This aspect remains a very questionable area with regards to title of the designs and in particular ownership of the name .


IN fact the name ONIX in class 9 was never sold by me as it was registered in my name and DID NOT belong to the company . Its use may be considered part of an illegal assignment . ( Consult a trade mark agent to find out what that means )


I am still proud of what ONIX ( UK ) made and personally will help any of our original customers as can be seen from the many forums that have ONIX questions posted on them.


Any products produced today that are not made by me or tony using the name ONIX are at best only a name on the front of a unit . A name does not reflect what Tony Brady or Adam Worsfold considered Ideals , the products must have our original DNA to be considered what ONIX was.


In 1991 when I and Tony Brady moved on, it declined as is documented in many forums on the net. I am not aware that any of the original distributors or dealers still sell Onix today


I hope this clears up the grey areas of what ONIX is and who owned/owns it and the time-lines of the ORIGINAL company .


I for one do not consider many of the products that have since worn the name worthy of doing so, but as they say life moves on.


Email me if with any questions you may have I will be glad to help


Regards


Adam Worsfold


aw @onixdna.com
 
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