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Onkyo "looking at both formats"
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/20...nd-combo-play/
http://www.e-gear.com/story/story.bs...nown&swd=onkyoQuote:
Onkyo also announced a new single-disc DVD player, DV-SP405 with 1080p upscaling capability, but it had no further information on when it might enter the high-definition DVD player arena. At CES 2007, it had announced its intent to introduce an HD DVD model, but Haas said that the company is looking at both [the HD DVD and Blu-ray] formats currently, and deciding whether to field either a standalone player or a multiple-format model. He added that a market entry could surface probably closer to the fourth quarter.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/20...nd-combo-play/
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I bet they come out with a middle of the road Combo.
If they release anything this year I would be surprised...
I bet they will drop hd dvd entirely in the end. This is just a warm up...
Yeah, me too. That's what makes it even funnier that Onkyo (along with high-end Meridian) was touted as HD-DVD's big win in the CE space at CES... Guess it's back to Toshiba + chinese no-name players.
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Originally Posted by joerod /forum/post/0
If they release anything this year I would be surprised...
Yeah, me too. That's what makes it even funnier that Onkyo (along with high-end Meridian) was touted as HD-DVD's big win in the CE space at CES... Guess it's back to Toshiba + chinese no-name players.
I think we will see a combo player from them, it is the most attractive option for most people.
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6436066.html
TWICE, 4/24/2007
"In its launch, Onkyo also expanded its $1,000+ A/V receiver selection by adding two price points long absent from its Onkyo-brand models: a suggested $1,699 and $2,099. They help fill the gap between the $1,099-suggested print point and a $5,000 modular A/V receiver, said Paul Wasek, national marketing manager for Onkyo USA's Onkyo and Integra brands. The $1,000-plus market is certainly a growth area overall, he said. It is of even greater interest since the Onkyo brand hasn't addressed this price band in quite a while. We believe these two new advanced AVRs are well-positioned to make a serious impact.
Onkyo USA's current Integra-brand lineup, targeted to the custom-install market, already offers A/V receivers above and below $1,000. New Integra brand products will debut later in the year.
In other product developments, Onkyo USA unveiled one new Onkyo-brand DVD player and three Onkyo-brand HTiBs, said it is reevaluating its Onkyo-brand DVD strategy, and is on track to offer its first HD DVD player later this year. It will carry the Onkyo brand name."
http://www.us.onkyo.com/news.cfm?id=2
TWICE, 4/24/2007
"In its launch, Onkyo also expanded its $1,000+ A/V receiver selection by adding two price points long absent from its Onkyo-brand models: a suggested $1,699 and $2,099. They help fill the gap between the $1,099-suggested print point and a $5,000 modular A/V receiver, said Paul Wasek, national marketing manager for Onkyo USA's Onkyo and Integra brands. The $1,000-plus market is certainly a growth area overall, he said. It is of even greater interest since the Onkyo brand hasn't addressed this price band in quite a while. We believe these two new advanced AVRs are well-positioned to make a serious impact.
Onkyo USA's current Integra-brand lineup, targeted to the custom-install market, already offers A/V receivers above and below $1,000. New Integra brand products will debut later in the year.
In other product developments, Onkyo USA unveiled one new Onkyo-brand DVD player and three Onkyo-brand HTiBs, said it is reevaluating its Onkyo-brand DVD strategy, and is on track to offer its first HD DVD player later this year. It will carry the Onkyo brand name."
http://www.us.onkyo.com/news.cfm?id=2
That is the only place that mentions this and is likely the author of the article that put it in the article because it was said at CES. All other places that reported on Onkyo's new receivers mostly didn't mention HD-DVD. The e-gear article quotes Keith Haas who is director of sales.
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Originally Posted by theone2 /forum/post/0
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6436066.html
TWICE, 4/24/2007
"In its launch, Onkyo also expanded its $1,000+ A/V receiver selection by adding two price points long absent from its Onkyo-brand models: a suggested $1,699 and $2,099. They help fill the gap between the $1,099-suggested print point and a $5,000 modular A/V receiver, said Paul Wasek, national marketing manager for Onkyo USA's Onkyo and Integra brands. The $1,000-plus market is certainly a growth area overall, he said. It is of even greater interest since the Onkyo brand hasn't addressed this price band in quite a while. We believe these two new advanced AVRs are well-positioned to make a serious impact.
Onkyo USA's current Integra-brand lineup, targeted to the custom-install market, already offers A/V receivers above and below $1,000. New Integra brand products will debut later in the year.
In other product developments, Onkyo USA unveiled one new Onkyo-brand DVD player and three Onkyo-brand HTiBs, said it is reevaluating its Onkyo-brand DVD strategy, and is on track to offer its first HD DVD player later this year. It will carry the Onkyo brand name."
http://www.us.onkyo.com/news.cfm?id=2
That is the only place that mentions this and is likely the author of the article that put it in the article because it was said at CES. All other places that reported on Onkyo's new receivers mostly didn't mention HD-DVD. The e-gear article quotes Keith Haas who is director of sales.
well if they release anything this year its gonna be hd-dvd. as im betting they are waiting for bd specs to be finalized... for more info on the specs look at my sig for a link
Considering how the prices of HD players and plummiting and the possiblity of "cheap?" BD players from Funai, maybe?, why would Onkyo even bother with the race to the bottom? One of the reasons to proceed with a new optical format was the fact that there was little money to be made in DVD anymore due to the fact that players were becoming as expensive as a disc. Some were even being given away with the purchase of a DVD. Now the new optical media is racing for that same bottom. If I was a CE manufacturer, I may stay out of this enterprise entirely.
High-end customers and retailers tend to want stability. If you go into a high-end store today, mostly they communicate skepticism. A few offer the Pioneer Elite.
I expect the high-end folks to stay away until the dust clears.
I expect the high-end folks to stay away until the dust clears.
Do we assume the dust has cleared once we say players from the likes of Arcam, Esoteric and Ayre?
I'd likely be interested.
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Originally Posted by Krobar /forum/post/0
I think we will see a combo player from them, it is the most attractive option for most people.
I'd likely be interested.
An Onkyo player assuming it is full featured would for sure be my first BD standalone. The PS3 would retire, even if the Onkyo were a combo player.
Na, combos are flopping (thank god) from what I see. I doubt anyone smart enough to have say in Onkyo is dumb enough to believe the HD DVD Fan battle cry of two formats being better than one. It helps nothing and Onkyo knows it. What they are really saying is we screwed up and dont want to lose money on HD DVD, so we are gonna back off and then come back blu. All IMO of course.
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Originally Posted by jwv651 /forum/post/0
I bet they come out with a middle of the road Combo.
Na, combos are flopping (thank god) from what I see. I doubt anyone smart enough to have say in Onkyo is dumb enough to believe the HD DVD Fan battle cry of two formats being better than one. It helps nothing and Onkyo knows it. What they are really saying is we screwed up and dont want to lose money on HD DVD, so we are gonna back off and then come back blu. All IMO of course.
It was announced to the dealers at that event where the press conference took place that it will be an HD DVD player (possibly a combo...not a BD standalone) in October for $1199 (Price, of course, subject to change).
Onkyo only? I assume we wont see a nice shiny upspecced IR edition.
Well, Onkyo building combo players is the only thing that makes sense considering the prospective price range. In the futere there will be cheap HD DVD players and expensive hybrid players. Well, and there will be some expensive Sony Bluray players.
At the end of the year single format standalone players >$500 would be plain stupid (or would require heavy brainwashing of the customers) and Onkyo knows this.
At the end of the year single format standalone players >$500 would be plain stupid (or would require heavy brainwashing of the customers) and Onkyo knows this.
I have to agree that at this point if you want to sell a player at a substantial premium you'd better make it a combo player.
But maybe they just want to wait it out until there's a winner, still sell at a premium to the enthusiast crowd who will pay a premium for the likes of Onkyo or Denon, and not have to spend as much jamming more hardware into them.
Blu-ray with its looser specs has actually opened the door for the CEs to make more money than HD DVD with its intact spec. Inexpensive players can legally be made that do no more than DD, DTS, and carry the current Java implementation requirement.
That leaves room to charge a premium for advanced audio codec ability and other bells and whistles.
Wouldn't it be a kick in the keister if what seems like BD's biggest weakness ends up being it's greatest assets since it gives the CEs something to rally behind: profit potential.
Sell the cheapies to the masses who will probably be satisfied with the HD picture for their TV and DD/DTS for their receiver (if they even have one) and still make money selling higher-end stuff to the enthusiasts.
But maybe they just want to wait it out until there's a winner, still sell at a premium to the enthusiast crowd who will pay a premium for the likes of Onkyo or Denon, and not have to spend as much jamming more hardware into them.
Blu-ray with its looser specs has actually opened the door for the CEs to make more money than HD DVD with its intact spec. Inexpensive players can legally be made that do no more than DD, DTS, and carry the current Java implementation requirement.
That leaves room to charge a premium for advanced audio codec ability and other bells and whistles.
Wouldn't it be a kick in the keister if what seems like BD's biggest weakness ends up being it's greatest assets since it gives the CEs something to rally behind: profit potential.
Sell the cheapies to the masses who will probably be satisfied with the HD picture for their TV and DD/DTS for their receiver (if they even have one) and still make money selling higher-end stuff to the enthusiasts.
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