[aduljr]



21KW power handling

95dB @ 1w/M

24"

weighs 396lbs(210 to the magnet)

3.5" xmax


That about all the spec's I was told. Talk about crazy

. My friend says it does sound good and this definitely isnt a money maker. More like lets go all out and see what we can do.


just found out, needs about 12 cuft ported enclosure. a very strong enclosure.

 

[jpmst3]

Nice!

Order placed, two in an opposing setup.

 

[vasyachkin]

nice. MTX is winning the stupidity war against itself.

 

[Ricci]



. Why?


MTX could've used all of those R&D dollars and made something really cool and useful too (not to mention affordable) like a real no holds barred bass driver that kicked the competitions ass. Instead they made a freak show that will get bettered by 2 or 3 high quality 18's, for less than a 6th of the price and less than half of the weight.

 

[jpmst3]

They all do that. It is no different than any other industry. Concept cars, one-offs, etc. It is a gimmick more or less for bragging rights and conversation.

 

[vasyachkin]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricci /forum/post/15502684

. Why?


MTX could've used all of those R&D dollars and made something really cool and useful too (not to mention affordable) like a real no holds barred bass driver that kicked the competitions ass. Instead they made a freak show that will get bettered by 2 or 3 high quality 18's, for less than a 6th of the price and less than half of the weight.

i already explained to you how this works.


if a driver didn't need a specially welded frame to hold its weak ferrite magnet it wouldn't be cool.


you can't make a show on MTV about a driver that actually fits into the car.


thats the real reason why there aren't any neodymium car audio woofers.


when kids read "210 lbs magnet" they go "wow son damn !"


now if instead it was a 10 pound neodymium magnet they would be like "say what ?"


i remember when i was showing my under-the-pole neodymium 15" RCF woofer to a friend he looked at it, thought for a while and said "this woofer doesn't have a magnet ..."

 

[John_E_Janowitz]

The reason to do a driver like that is simple. Publicity. The whole project should go down in the books as an advertising expense. You're all talking about it here as well as people on every car forum out there. The woofer itself won't sell in quantities to make a ton of money. However, the publicity gained for MTX by it and the number of people it gets to their website is money better spent than on magazine ads or something similar. It's one of those rare advertising costs where you actually get a return on the investment too as you will sell a few.


John

 

[XaNe]

why.............. now sell that and go buy a eD sub

 

[brandonnash]

Goldmund makes a $300k turntable that they had a waiting list on. My guess is they have a limited run of these. Say 25-100 of them. You can almost bet that those will sell. They make well more than enough to sell them to make back their money, plus they'll be the talk of almost any trade show. From a business standpoint, they make their money back and have some great advertising to boot.


Would I buy it if I had the money? No way at all. It makes no sense at all to spend that kind of money on one driver, no matter how good it is. But at the same time, there are people who spend upwards of $100k on a show car that they never drive and only win trophies with it. That's what this driver is for. Just for those people who have more money than they know what to do with.


I would go with a pair of RE XXX 18's or something of the like and probably stomp that thing, but I think for their company it's a great idea. For a company that's doing as well as they are in our economic troubles should say something.

 

[Ricci]

I didn't mean why literally obv. Everyone knows that it's a PR/ marketing gimmick that seems to be working well btw. It's just that it's a shame that they will go to all of that effort for essentially an add campaign, when it could've been used to actually engineer some better "real" products.

 

[brandonnash]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricci /forum/post/15503547


I didn't mean why literally obv. Everyone knows that it's a PR/ marketing gimmick that seems to be working well btw. It's just that it's a shame that they will go to all of that effort for essentially an add campaign, when it could've been used to actually engineer some better "real" products.

Truthfully I don't think they have to engineer some better "real" products. They sell tons, quite literally, of their cheap $60 10" subs. Nearly every big box store in america sells them, and once everyone sees that huge thing, without actual investigation themselves, they'll think " wow, wish I could have one of those!! Maybe I'll just get this $150 15" instead. I bet it's almost as good".


Once again, I agree it's a waste and I would love to have them build some better products just to have more on the market, but strictly from a business aspect, I think it works.

 

[2100]



Quote:
Originally Posted by John_E_Janowitz /forum/post/15502867


The reason to do a driver like that is simple. Publicity.

John, where have you been hibernating man. Is the economy over there that bleak? One of my friends got some AV12 from you I think.

Anyway, talking about publicity, time to leak info on your TD18s and the waveguides?

 

[vasyachkin]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricci /forum/post/15503547


I didn't mean why literally obv. Everyone knows that it's a PR/ marketing gimmick that seems to be working well btw. It's just that it's a shame that they will go to all of that effort for essentially an add campaign, when it could've been used to actually engineer some better "real" products.

if you want products designed to serve the needs of the people you want communism.


under capitalism products are designed to sell, not to work. that they sometimes work is an unintended side effect.


we live in a world of persistent illusions. its a big problem.


you figured out that this driver is a joke - great. now you just have to understand that the same is the case for 99% of all other car audio woofers. the only difference is price point.


prosound woofers are the only ones designed to actually work.


if you understand that you will know why TC Sounds is bankrupt. they were trying to sell products that actually work in a car audio market - a big NO-NO.

 

[Manic1!]



Quote:
Originally Posted by vasyachkin /forum/post/15502761


thats the real reason why there aren't any neodymium car audio woofers.


when kids read "210 lbs magnet" they go "wow son damn !"


now if instead it was a 10 pound neodymium magnet they would be like "say what ?"


"

Whats this
http://www.criticalmassaudio.com/cat...iewCat&catId=3

 

[Scott Simonian]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic1! /forum/post/15511550


Whats this
http://www.criticalmassaudio.com/cat...iewCat&catId=3

Looks like a slim profile subwoofer with the motor/VC up front instead of in back.

 

[TheEAR]

Is this a tweeter or a supertweeter?

Another freak show from MTX, first the True22 and now this. Get me four LMS-Ultra 18's and I take them any day over this freakish contraprion.


Good to impress the kids and teenagers. LOOK A GIANT SUB DRIVER!

 

[Manic1!]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Simonian /forum/post/15511807


Looks like a slim profile subwoofer with the motor/VC up front instead of in back.

Using a neodymium magnet.

 

[Scott Simonian]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic1! /forum/post/15512217


Using a neodymium magnet.

Yeah. I couldn't imagine how much Sd would be left over if they used a more traditional ferrite magnet right up front. Probably none at all.

 

[vasyachkin]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic1! /forum/post/15512217


Using a neodymium magnet.

LOL.


aura bass shakers probably use neodymium as well.


but i am talking about normal subwoofers. you know the kinds that go into boxes like this:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...h+Images&gbv=2

 

[Manic1!]



Quote:
Originally Posted by vasyachkin /forum/post/15512746


LOL.


aura bass shakers probably use neodymium as well.


but i am talking about normal subwoofers. you know the kinds that go into boxes like this:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...h+Images&gbv=2

Those go into normal boxes.