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Assuming one were willing to spend the $800 or $1150 on either of these subs in a 2525 cubic foot room, how would everyone vote?  I find the PB2000 and XV15 too similar to worry over the difference, so it is really a comparison of an $800 ported sub vs the sealed dual 15".  The more research I do seems to indicate that I should still get some reasonable room gain with the XS30.

 

Finalizing my initial purchase decision, it comes down to these two options for a permanent addition to my home audio setup.
 

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Bear is this a hypothetical question or actual poll...if it's the latter you'll need to set it that way.


Just saying...
 

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Bear I was just reading a post by ahblaza in the PSA thread discussing the XV15 vs. the XS30. He has owned both and his conclusion was he would go with dual XV15s over a single XS30. Based on that I assume he would take a single XS30 over a single XV15 but I don't want to speak for him so you may want to read his post, it has good first hand information that directly applies to your question.

 

FWIW I agree with you, I think you might very well get some room gain based on your stated size of the room, but how much gain I don't know.  I think I would look at the XS30. 
 

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From personal experience. I would take one xs30 over one xv15. But 2xv15's over 1 xs30


There really is nothing like Duals


I have had a single xs30 and xv15 in my room. Xs30 was superior. But get whichever one you will DEFINITELY have a pair if
 

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Well I can only fit one large sub.  I can place a small one nearfield to assist with room smoothing...my top two options for this will be either the PB1000 or SB1000 due to size and price.  I am using my old Polk PSW110 at the moment, which is doing a great job of filling in a null that is resulting from my single sub placed in its only possible placement option.

 

I suppose a clearer question would be one PB2000 vs one XS30.  I was lumping the PB and XV in a similar category.  I am leaning strongly to the XS30, but approval might be difficult.
 

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Bear is this a hypothetical question or actual poll...if it's the latter you'll need to set it that way.


Just saying...
Not familiar with how to do this if I wanted to, sorry.
 

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Then in that case if the means are there go single xs30
 

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Not familiar with how to do this if I wanted to, sorry.

That option is available when you start a new thread just scroll down and open the link...if that is what you'd like to pursue... ask one of the mods to help you set it up.
 

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You said your room is 2525 cubic feet. No way to make room for a 2nd sub other than behind the couch? How about SVS cylinder subs?
 

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Nope.  This is our main living room.  Between a fireplace, most of the front wall covered by custom built in bookshelves, an entry door, a walkway behind our couch into the house/room from the front door, two French door openings, a stairwell, and a normal doorway, there is only one open corner, and no other location to place a giant box while staying married.  I will be fine with using a smaller sub just for smoothing though..I don't need the headroom.  As good of a job as my whimpy little polk did with smoothing, I am sure something like a pb1000 or sb1000 would work wonders alongside my main sub(limited to 15" width in nearfield location)
 

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Originally Posted by bear123  /t/1520432/opinions-pb2000-xv15-or-xs30#post_24426554


Well I can only fit one large sub.  I can place a small one nearfield to assist with room smoothing...my top two options for this will be either the PB1000 or SB1000 due to size and price.  I am using my old Polk PSW110 at the moment, which is doing a great job of filling in a null that is resulting from my single sub placed in its only possible placement option.


I suppose a clearer question would be one PB2000 vs one XS30.  I was lumping the PB and XV in a similar category.  I am leaning strongly to the XS30, but approval might be difficult.
Are you planning on returning the PB2000? What about a XS30 up front and a XS15 nearfield? I would stick with the same alignment and not mix ported/sealed. Not saying it can not be done but it can definitely introduce more headaches.



Whatever you do buy enough subwoofer that will keep ya from upgrading after 2mo. I guess I will go ahead and say I told ya so.
 

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Are you planning on returning the PB2000? What about a XS30 up front and a XS15 nearfield? I would stick with the same alignment and not mix ported/sealed. Not saying it can not be done but it can definitely introduce more headaches.



Whatever you do buy enough subwoofer that will keep ya from upgrading after 2mo. I guess I will go ahead and say I told ya so.
If I pull the trigger on the XS30 it will be instead of the PB2000.  Just finalizing my initial purchase decision, I want to start with the sub that I will keep indefinitely.  XS15 is too large to fit nerfield.  So If I make the change, I am starting to think the sb1000 will be the best option to place nearfield for smoothing while keeping the cost down since I am not after output.
 

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Originally Posted by bear123  /t/1520432/opinions-pb2000-xv15-or-xs30#post_24427218


If I pull the trigger on the XS30 it will be instead of the PB2000.  Just finalizing my initial purchase decision, I want to start with the sub that I will keep indefinitely.  XS15 is too large to fit nerfield.  So If I make the change, I am starting to think the sb1000 will be the best option to place nearfield for smoothing while keeping the cost down since I am not after output.

The obvious choice for you seems to be to go with dual SB-2000s. Try one up front and one behind the couch. If that's not enough for you, then you could colocate the two (stack them) up front and go for another SB-2000 behind the couch later on. Colocating give you extra SPL benefits over having the subs separated. Since you aren't after max output, I would bet on the dual SB-2000s being more than plenty since one will be located nearfield. If you read Ricci's description in his Audioholics review of one SB12 in his 4,000 cubic ft room, it did pretty well from 4 meters away. Dual SB-2000s should be excellent in your size room.


I seem to remember someone saying that they preferred the SQ of the SB12 to the XS15, so this could work out well for you in terms of overall SQ. And this way, everything would match. Keep in mind that the SB-2000s will probably tend to have a little different sound than the PB-2000 because of the difference in the bass being produced due to the port interaction around the tuning point. Sealed has a bit cleaner sound to me, although both sound good in their own way.
 

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Originally Posted by bear123  /t/1520432/opinions-pb2000-xv15-or-xs30#post_24427218


If I pull the trigger on the XS30 it will be instead of the PB2000.  Just finalizing my initial purchase decision, I want to start with the sub that I will keep indefinitely.  XS15 is too large to fit nerfield.  So If I make the change, I am starting to think the sb1000 will be the best option to place nearfield for smoothing while keeping the cost down since I am not after output.

True but you do not want to limit the headroom of the XS30...the SB1000 will be out of headroom before the XS30 is halfway. That would be a horrible combination. If you are not after output then why not keep your current setup? What exactly is wrong with it if you do not need more output?
 

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Originally Posted by basshead81  /t/1520432/opinions-pb2000-xv15-or-xs30#post_24427344


True but you do not want to limit the headroom of the XS30...the SB1000 will be out of headroom before the XS30 is halfway. That would be a horrible combination. If you are not after output then why not keep your current setup? What exactly is wrong with it if you do not need more output?

He needs the 2nd sub to fill in a null.
 

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True but you do not want to limit the headroom of the XS30...the SB1000 will be out of headroom before the XS30 is halfway. That would be a horrible combination. If you are not after output then why not keep your current setup? What exactly is wrong with it if you do not need more output?
Well, this is a somewhat permanent purchase, so I am after the best value for a long term item in my audio setup.  The XS30 should extend a lot lower and offer much greater output over 30Hz.  This is what I mean by not needing more output...that the sub I place nearfield for smoothing does not need to add lots and lots of output.  I can keep the gain lower since it is nearfield and use it mainly to fill the bad null that I have centered at 50Hz.  Of course, perhaps the XS30 will have a different response in room.  Will most likely be quite some time before I change the second sub...the Polk will have to fill in for now.
 

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I know that Mr. Obvious...lmao


He has a psw110 that filled the null...his graph looks good, why change if output is not of concern?

It's a PSW110. LOL
 
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